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Tone ID more accurate than cursor position. Seriously?

I get the sweet sound I'm listening for.

Once I have investigated that sound...and I like it....I will then glance at the screen.

So to be perfectly...I can't answer your question about whether or not the crosshairs are "locked up" on me because I never look at the screen at all until after I have gotten the sweet sound to come through and investigated it as well.

Now as for how my method works for me...remember I hunt in conductive sounds while you say you hunted in ferrous...so I have no clue how your machine would react to targets in iron as compared to mine while in conductive.

As for the 1265X...I have never heard anything BUT great things about it.

I believe it is just like the CZ's....STILL capable of running neck and neck with todays machines.:thumbup:
 
Sounds right BJ. But even in null like Bryce always says you get a tone. Depending on what the machine sees will be what it reports. If there are 2 or 3 targets close it may not be able to recognize the AVERAGE of them so it can report the targets as IRON. However, stop to investigate and you might find that IRON smartscreen changes to match the tone. There is a LOT of soil being process under these bigger coils.... as much as 7 gal. So to be able to sniff out the good stuff the Exps do an amazing job. If you go into AM in a trashy area .... move your coil very slowly .... you will hear a ton of tones.... tell me the processor is slow. Its more sounds than i like to hear. When i air test targets ive found you can use the in line probe about as effective and the coil for target ID or some depth adjustments. But most of the time once you find your settings you rarely change them unless you are in different situations... like fields, woods beach.

Dew
 
Tones travel faster than cursors and don't become a screen watcher...personally don't hear well but have excellent tonal recognition which helped with my Sov. and now stops me in my tracks when I hit a silver dime...For sure explorers are slow with the cursor and numbers but not so with the audio. Again a 3 headed sword but the secret of an explorer are tones and after that cursor movements and numbers. My advice put your explorer on a picnic table outside of course and constantly run the target you are looking for over and over until the tone is ingrained in your brain and once you hit the field you will know even if you didn't have a cursor and numbers to further aid you. Remember keep your facets the same as with facet changes come audio changes and you are back to square one. Most Explorers end up on the classifieds as they are not understood or perhaps the weight may be a problem not because they are not an excellent unit once learned and keep it simple guys as even in quickstart its a potent weapon. Actually was reluctant to go back to an Explorer because of the ergonomics but the lightweight DD 11" coil did away with the nose heavy aspect and makes it a easier to handle unit...Remember an Explorer can be as easy or hard as you want it to be and excells once the operator learns it well and has it setup for his neck of the woods..
 
Well said Dan.... except the part about "Most Explorers end up on the classifieds". Ive noticed more and more using them or the Etrac especially for old coin and silver hunting. The FBS makes them pretty versatile for most situations and locations.

Dew
 
If you say its what it is it is, Bryce-IL
Regards
Jeff
 
Gosh have to get the fingers and brain working together. Should have read those that end up on the classifieds not most and is an error on my part and don't know if I should blame my brain or fingers.

Might also add 4 step ups from XS to E-trac and experienced Explorer users sell the 11 to step up to the SE and SE owners may sell the SE to step up to the E-trac( well you get the jist).

Having used older and newer models I see Minelab is constantly improving and understand the reasoning for stepping up the ladder...
 
more often than not the person has tried too much too fast...and not learned the machine properly.

I stated the exact same thing you did...and I point it out often...because it is what it is.

They are on the forums asking questions...wanting to know the newest "secret settings"....ferrous/conduct?...the "best" coil....newest "trick"..etc...so they can start finding what many of the more experienced explorer users are finding.

Problem is...and I tell each and every one of them....you have to learn what the machine is "saying" to you before you can get really good with it.

The guys who don't take their time...and don't leave the machine setup in a basic way for a few weeks...are the ones who list it for sale a couple of months down the road.

I see it all the time...because as moderator I get tons of pm's on the very subject.

My advice never changes...."LEAVE IT ALONE FOR A FEW WEEKS:biggrin:...Don't change any settings...LEAVE it in the factory presets for a few weeks..etc....:)

IMHO there is not a better deep turf silver machine on the market...but it doesn't come overnight.

If you take the time to learn it properly...you will be rewarded beyond your wildest dreams.
 
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