todays silver sabre II hunt

[amberjack]

here's how not to use it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC0hwFLh93M

have a MarsMD also which is usually my day time pin pointer.

AJ

I don't get it. What was wrong about how you were using it? I didn't watch all 38 minutes of it.
But wow if your hunts are like that, you're a lucky guy. All those coins are pull tabs for me haha

reverse psychology

AJ

 

[bibelot]

Yes to keep.He said he has never used it since he has owned it.I am looking for a 4" concentric coil for the sabre.it has a 8' cable to the coil now.Will I be able to use the 3' cable instead? I never plan to clip it to my belt, I'm guessing that is why the original coil has the long cable ? I'm wondering if it matters?

 

[Walknstik]

The 3' cable will work just fine if you simply run the coil cable straight up the pole (don't wrap) and connect at control box. This works well for control boxes mounted near the arm-cuff. If control box is mounted lower on pole then you could wrap coil cable if desired!

 

[Furious T]

Well done on the coin finds and the ring. It sure looks silver. Sometimes, markings can be worn down so as to seem invisible. Using a strong magnifier, getting in the right light, and getting the ring at the right angle can help see very faint markings.

You can also get an indication of the type of metal it might be by seeing where it discriminates out on the detector.

I sometimes brush with white vinegar, but with insets your the one you found, I would not soak it in vinegar, and be careful not to get too much vinegar on the setting.

The Silver Sabre II is a beautiful machine. HH

 

[bibelot]

The ring didn't disc out but in saying that, It was only about 3" deep is all. Pretty much almost right under the root line of the grass over it.

Texadillo,Thank you for the info on the cable length, It measures 31" from coil inlet to the box so 36" should have a bit of slack to work with.

 

[bibelot]

I was given a Garrett pro pointer last weekend. The person had 3 of them from his Garrett MD purchases. He lent me a AT md to use for a couple of hours as well so I got to use something besides a Tesoro.

Oh cool. Like gave you the pointer to keep?!? That's really nice.
The AT is a different "style" of hunting I like to say. When a screen and other bells and whistles are involved it's a bit different.

Funny thing is I found that there's a chance of missing things with a screen detector. When it comes down to it, the vdi numbers can get skewed when there's other metal like iron near, so many people skip over those targets. But Tesoro blocks out the iron and just beeps on higher conductive stuff.

I enjoy using my Nokta with all the screens and numbers. Just a different "style". I see other machines in my future, but I live my Tesoros

I can only tell my side of what happened leading up to the person giving me the pro pointer but here it is. I was hunting the fair grounds with the sabre and I dug a Indianhead penny. It didn't register that it was so until I turned the coin over and seen one cent with a wheat back type wreath. The Indian didn't register as a Indian in a headdress at first as I never seen one before. I went to get up and I blacked out. I don't know how long I was out but when I came to, I was still dizzy and my upper lip was numb. I picked up my gear and drove myself to the urgent care unit at the VA center. I was diagnosed with low blood pressure/dehydrated and given IV fluids transported and kept over night in a hospital for observation. When I was released, I looked in my apron to see if I remembered to pick the coin up and I didn't. I went back to the fair grounds where I meet the person for the first time and another person that frequently hunts the grounds, I chatted a bit and then I went searched for but couldn't detect the penny in the area I knew it to be. The next morning, I went back and was searching the spot again when the person pulled in and he came over and chatted, he asked if I had a pinpointer and I told him I did not have one. Then he gave me the pro pointer to use. A few hours in, I wasn't feeling all that great being out in the sun, I decided to give up so I went to return and thank him for letting me use the pro pointer and he told me to keep it and that he had three of them. The next day I went back and he was there. We chatted and he walked me through a couple of target digs with a Garrett AT pro since I was asking questions about them. He said that he was leaving to go back to North Carolina in the morning but he will be back next 4th of July. I wonder if they knew that it was me that dug up the penny ,thinking I had missed it, due to my not having a pinpointer ? I bought a 4" concentric coil tonight. Hopefully, it will help my sabre find another Indian head penny so that I can post a pic and prove that they are still out there at the fair grounds. I go Tuesday as a follow up, even though I quit taking the blood pressure meds, My blood pressure is still running lower than normal.

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

Oh wow. Really nice gesture of him. That's awesome.
Sorry to hear about the health issues. Hope that gets worked out.

And good luck on that Indian head penny!!!

 

[bibelot]

I seen the one guy yesterday and told him my story. I asked if he found a Indianhead penny,I don't want it but would like to put my mind at ease. Today , I saw him and he let me see a Indianhead penny. My stupid lens focus kept error-ing out on me, got dirt in the focus ring it but I snapped a pic ,such as it is.Just the way my luck has been running lately.1877 was the date. Jeepers cats ! I want that 4" coil already. I haven't heard nothing whether it's in route or not.

 

[steve1357]

I seen the one guy yesterday and told him my story. I asked if he found a Indianhead penny,I don't want it but would like to put my mind at ease. Today , I saw him and he let me see a Indianhead penny. My stupid lens focus kept error-ing out on me, got dirt in the focus ring it but I snapped a pic ,such as it is.Just the way my luck has been running lately.1877 was the date. Jeepers cats ! I want that 4" coil already. I haven't heard nothing whether it's in route or not.

Which small coil do you have? If the 5.75 concentric, or even the 7 or 8", try swinging it level 2 or 4 inches above ground. Ive done it many times with my 8" concentric on my Gamma in trash.

 

[bibelot]

I'm running the stock brown 8" coil now but I just ordered a 4" concentric. Turning the sensitivity at 2-3 helps stabilize it's readings but I'm dealing with 196 years worth of trash in the ground. I think the 4" will work better but maybe not. Thanks for the tip, I 'll give it a shot. I have so much to learn, it ain't funny.

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

I'm running the stock brown 8" coil now but I just ordered a 4" concentric. Turning the sensitivity at 2-3 helps stabilize it's readings but I'm dealing with 196 years worth of trash in the ground. I think the 4" will work better but maybe not. Thanks for the tip, I 'll give it a shot. I have so much to learn, it ain't funny.

I have a 4" but haven't had the need to run it yet.
As long as you understand concentric and know how little ground they cover to begin with. The overlap on any concentric needs to be at least 50% the width of the coil but many times more.
I've never had trash that's busy.
For example, to cover ALL the ground on your sweeps... with an 8" coil, as far as coin size targets, you can only sweep 2-4" ahead of the center of your last sweep to get everything and still with concentric and their cone shaped "sight" even then you could be missing things.

My sites are mine alone and no one else hunts them, so I don't mind and often go back over and find more. It's not an issue with the detector I used last, just an issue with how I was swinging.

If you look up concentric and their "sight" into the ground compared to DD (blade) "sight" you'll understand.

Not to say one is better than the other, just different.
Concentric are all I have for my resorts for the way I hunt with them.
They are waaay better for discrimination (not to be confused with separation) of targets.

I have the 4" in case it ever get that "busy" in the ground but have yet to run into anything my 5.75 concentric can't handle.

The SD (widescan for Tesoro) are great for mineralized ground and separation. I want the 5x10 (called 10" elliptical, lobo) coil because I love it's coverage (10") per sweep but it's separation (5") width. Works great in my Nokta with that style coil.

Anyway good luck and make sure you're at least overlapping enough to cover the area with those kinds of finds in the ground

If I ever found an Indian head anything j think I would go nuts. Be happy you have an area that even has a chance to find those!!!

Happy hunting!!!

 

[bibelot]

There are 4 different pull tabs, I say different because they chime in on different disc settings, your square nails , rounds and aluminum nails, steel can slaw and aluminum slaw, bottle caps that always give you a nice round signal but what's worse than bottle caps are light bulb bases, there are millions of light bulb bases, shower curtain hooks, I'm guessing balloon dart game uses the shower curtain hooks all layered with a healthy dose of foil bits from gum packages to cigarette foil to food aluminum foil bits and a ton of broken glass that you have to be mindful of when reaching in to retrieve. In a normal sweep, you would have literally hundreds of beeps fluttering through the speaker. If you hold it still off from the ground, you can get two to three different target signals and sometimes more without trying to move the coil. Its pick an area because you are going to be there a while or you can cherry pick various signals pulling trash trying to sort a good target as you go.You shorten up on the pin pointer as well as it will detect multiple signals in any direction tipped. Yes, fun stuff, I am blessed. Now all I have to do is pull another Indianhead. That Indianhead penny that I had dug was less than 4" in the ground, I don't need depth,I need target separation.

 

[amberjack]

get yourself a nice emi less spot put the detector up off the ground get a dime and do a force field test you know like how they do reiki feel the force and see the image of the outline in your minds eye you may get a different perspective of the coils field.

the blade and cone is well not real have a go it may surprise you as it did me.

AJ

 

[steve1357]

I'm running the stock brown 8" coil now but I just ordered a 4" concentric. Turning the sensitivity at 2-3 helps stabilize it's readings but I'm dealing with 196 years worth of trash in the ground. I think the 4" will work better but maybe not. Thanks for the tip, I 'll give it a shot. I have so much to learn, it ain't funny.

I have a 4" but haven't had the need to run it yet.
As long as you understand concentric and know how little ground they cover to begin with. The overlap on any concentric needs to be at least 50% the width of the coil but many times more.
I've never had trash that's busy.
For example, to cover ALL the ground on your sweeps... with an 8" coil, as far as coin size targets, you can only sweep 2-4" ahead of the center of your last sweep to get everything and still with concentric and their cone shaped "sight" even then you could be missing things.

My sites are mine alone and no one else hunts them, so I don't mind and often go back over and find more. It's not an issue with the detector I used last, just an issue with how I was swinging.

If you look up concentric and their "sight" into the ground compared to DD (blade) "sight" you'll understand.

Not to say one is better than the other, just different.
Concentric are all I have for my resorts for the way I hunt with them.
They are waaay better for discrimination (not to be confused with separation) of targets.

I have the 4" in case it ever get that "busy" in the ground but have yet to run into anything my 5.75 concentric can't handle.

The SD (widescan for Tesoro) are great for mineralized ground and separation. I want the 5x10 (called 10" elliptical, lobo) coil because I love it's coverage (10") per sweep but it's separation (5") width. Works great in my Nokta with that style coil.

That's what I said! lol

 

[bibelot]

Assume that I know nothing and you will be on track with my metal detecting knowledge . I literally have just started md a couple of months ago. The coil and scuff came today. I took it to the fair grounds. One thing I noticed, I can run sensitivity up on max and it still silent searches. I turned the threshold up a bit more and it still behaves silently, just signals with a harder tone than it use to when using the bigger coil. Does this make sense ? I picked this crap in an hours time tonight. Some of the coins are in bad shape though. I think I can get use to it, still have the compadre to new coin hunt with . Cleaned the auto focus on my camera, I also got permission to hunt a farm that was built in 1840, lots of barns, outbuildings out from the main house and Barns.

 

[steve1357]

A suggestion, find out where the outhouse was, probably several places over the years. ...

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

A suggestion, find out where the outhouse was, probably several places over the years. ...

Good idea!!

 

[bibelot]

There is still a stone foundation outhouse directly in front, across the road from the main house. I've never seen a stone foundation on a outhouse before. All but three houses on my block still use outhouses. The people that still use outhouses on my block don't ever wear jewelry. Another reason to avoid metal detecting around outhouses.

 

[woodchiphustler]

Keep digging! Nice