Threshold level. I want to vent.

[thump7]

In my early years, the experienced guys would say to run it at 'just audible'.
I see numerous vieos of guys running a blaring loud threshold that sounds like a pack of bees chasing them thru an echoing valley. It would drive me nuts.

Yesterday, i did some testing with the nokta Gold Kruzer, and low/ barely audible threshold level is imo still the clear winner. Hands down. Its not really a contest actually.
Please, stop running these super loud thresholds. You are loosing depth and it gives an otherwise great machines, a bad rep.

I dont have any affiliations with Nokta. But i do hope these guys succeed in the industry. I really like their product, and the way they handle customers.

 

[Odanscoils]

Nice info. Thanks

 

[BobOso]

First are the guys using PI machines, are they wearing headphones. With PI machines or any machine you want the threshold loud enough that if the target breaks the threshold, you dig. As for being loud enough for you to hear, perhaps they are also trying to be aware of snakes and do not want headphones, with headphones, and it is loud, I would get a migraine.
So without headphones, it is loud, so they can hear the break, sensitivity turned down so you do not pick up the mineralization. I have had several PI machines, wearing headphones all day when it is warm gets old. Recently bought an algo e1500, tired of digging to china in dirt like concrete, threshold is steady, ignores hot rocks, speaker is loud enough headphones are not required, nice machine.

 

[thump7]

First are the guys using PI machines, are they wearing headphones. With PI machines or any machine you want the threshold loud enough that if the target breaks the threshold, you dig. As for being loud enough for you to hear, perhaps they are also trying to be aware of snakes and do not want headphones, with headphones, and it is loud, I would get a migraine.
So without headphones, it is loud, so they can hear the break, sensitivity turned down so you do not pick up the mineralization. I have had several PI machines, wearing headphones all day when it is warm gets old. Recently bought an algo e1500, tired of digging to china in dirt like concrete, threshold is steady, ignores hot rocks, speaker is loud enough headphones are not required, nice machine.

Try turning it to just audible and check target response. Every machine I’ve used that had a threshold, all performed better with it set at just audible. In the case of the Gold Kruzer, the 2-3” of depth that is gained on small targets by running a quiet threshold, I would willingly sacrifice by using the machine speaker just so that I wouldn’t have to listen to a loud one.
Around here it’s bears, yeah, I totally get wanting to make a presence known.

 

[Minelab Pirate]

A soft buzz allows you to hear "Negative Breaks," in the threshold. This occurs with deep targets when the threshold goes silent momentarily as it crosses the nugget (target). This is a repeatable "signal." Using the threshold is a skill.

 

[Minelab Pirate]

Try turning it to just audible and check target response. Every machine I’ve used that had a threshold, all performed better with it set at just audible. In the case of the Gold Kruzer, the 2-3” of depth that is gained on small targets by running a quiet threshold, I would willingly sacrifice by using the machine speaker just so that I wouldn’t have to listen to a loud one.
Around here it’s bears, yeah, I totally get wanting to make a presence known.

In Rattlesnake country we use these - Check 'em out!

Gray Ghost Rattler Headphones​

 

[sprchng]

In hot weather or where situational awareness is paramount I don't know why everyone doesn't have a set of Avantree Torus.

https://avantree.com/products/torus-nb05-bluetooth-wearable-speaker?srsltid=AfmBOoqAx5obJTjBCh67JKIOvYKu8Cp2_nRaMc6MYbWABdCmYCz6meuW

 

[Sven]

Try turning it to just audible and check target response. Every machine I’ve used that had a threshold, all performed better with it set at just audible. In the case of the Gold Kruzer, the 2-3” of depth that is gained on small targets by running a quiet threshold, I would willingly sacrifice by using the machine speaker just so that I wouldn’t have to listen to a loud one.
Around here it’s bears, yeah, I totally get wanting to make a presence known.

Exactly how I always run my detectors, just audible threshold.