Thoughts after 1st hunt with my new Outlaw

[Matt_SC]

Here is a tip I figured out while air testing. The retune button does effect the discrimination mode. If I turn my Outlaw on in discrimination mode and immediately air test, it will only get 3" on a dime with the 8" coil. After I press the retune button all the way in until I hear the threshold hum then let off, it'll then hit a dime at 9". I'll bet if you detune while in no motion then switch back to discrimination without retuning while holding the coil off the ground that it will stay detuned. Obviously this will give a lot less depth.

 

[GunnarMN]

Matt you are , right i just tried that - and it is as you say- I cant beleive I am still learning new things about this detector , thanks for the tip as I may have lost depth in disc mode. unless you had tiped me off on that one it never dawned on me but you are right .

 

[Furious T]

idxpro, I only had the Outlaw for a relatively short time...I did not get rid of it by choice, but had to return it to the distributor, who had very kindly loaned it to me for a while. I did not have an operator's manual, so I had to "play it by ear" and the Outlaw was the first Tesoro I had used with a detune/retune button...I readily admit I confused myself a few times and it sounds as if at times I was probably doing much the same as you are now. Because I dont still have it, I cant give you a run-through on the processes of the machine...GunnarMN seems to have done some good work and has been more than willing to share his findings, which is great. I cant comment on what Monte said, but judging from a recent post of his, I dont think he has used the Outlaw. Both Mike and Matt have shared their experiences, so there is some more info for you to use and test. All the best and HH.

 

[SpiritRelic]

Spirit, i'm not trying to make a bigger issue than it is. Like I said before, this is new to me. I don't want to give up and sell it, not yet anyway. I'm just trying to learn it's behavior that's all. It's raining like crazy here ,so testing today is a no go. I really like the extra depth of metal hunting, so staying in disc mode isn't what I want to do. I've been in that mode since last November and have a pretty good feel for it. I'm just trying to move up to all metal as I have my Whites. All was good until I started attempting switching modes, that's when things got really confusing. Sorry if I made things seem more thn they were, it wasn't my intentions. I'm certainly not saying it's not a good unit, i just need to better understnd it, and i'm truly trying.

It is a matter i think of making sure your are retuned to your previous threshold before going back into disc mode that's all.If you are in no motion and you do not retune to the original threshold before going back into disc mode you will have a problem.I am excited about this detector.It is so different.The no motion will confuse you real quick.You will be sorry if you don't learn it and a year from now it turns out to be another vaquero.

That is all it is.If you go into no-motion you must retune to the original setting before going into disc mode or the detector will be detuned. :-D

 

[Idxpro]

Spirit, i agree it does go out of wack when you do this. The problem is, if in fact this is a intentional design by Tesoro, it was a dumb one. I want to be able switch modes on the fly without ever worrying about throwing the machine out of wack. This is also not described on their web site or in the manual. I read the manual online before I purchased in order to have a better understanding and this was not disclosed, which leads me to beleive it was a flaw in the design. I like to often check my target in all metal after being in disc mode to have a better idea what i've got so this sucks!! I flip back to disc and it's gone because i didn't "retune"? Horrible glitch... Again, i'm fine with it balanced and in disc mode. It's Great, no complaints. Smooth, plenty deep, great disc resolution, etc....

 

[SpiritRelic]

When in disc,push the button all the way in to check the target in motion all metal,or switch the toggle all the way left to motion all metal(auto).The no motion is something to only be used if the target is so faint you have a hard time trying to hear it.The no motion is a very special feature that may help you.This is the way no motion is.No motion is not stable,only to be used for trying to hear deep targets once they are located.I say don't give up,this is a very simple thing.You have a very rare and unique feature on the Outlaw that most other detectorist do not have.This is why detectors became motion based(have to stay moving),because of the auto retune.The only time you have to think about hitting the retune button is if you go into the no motion mode.You can even hit the retune while in disc, i do believe.Have you ever thought why a detector has to stay moving to pick up a target?Think about that one.It would be nice if we would not have to sweep so fast. :-D

 

[JASONSPAZ1]

It does look like a good machine no doubt. Keep the reviews coming.
HH
Jason

 

[Matt_SC]

Spirit, i agree it does go out of wack when you do this. The problem is, if in fact this is a intentional design by Tesoro, it was a dumb one. I want to be able switch modes on the fly without ever worrying about throwing the machine out of wack. This is also not described on their web site or in the manual. I read the manual online before I purchased in order to have a better understanding and this was not disclosed, which leads me to beleive it was a flaw in the design. I like to often check my target in all metal after being in disc mode to have a better idea what i've got so this sucks!! I flip back to disc and it's gone because i didn't "retune"? Horrible glitch... Again, i'm fine with it balanced and in disc mode. It's Great, no complaints. Smooth, plenty deep, great disc resolution, etc....

It's not a glitch, just a unique feature. Just remember to retune with the coil away from any metallic object and all will be well. I think it's very neat to have a detector that offers so much in such a compact lightweight easy to use form.

 

[Idxpro]

Hey Matt, tell me a little about the Cortes. How's that with a screen??