This dude found a $500 million treasure, But this is what happened!

[mdhunt]

 

[BobOso]

What I will never understand is how Spain or any court will give ownership to Spain, The Spaniards came to the New World, raped and plundered, enslaved the people to dig the gold/sliver (stolen) then tried to ship it back to Spain.
I wish I could understand how it belongs to them, how they are responsible for slave ownership, after all for some reason (Not trying to be racist) but the black in the US think they are owed everything because of the past. Whith that in mind, my great,great.great (you get the picture) grandfather came on the boat in 1601 as an Irish indentured servant, who was treated much worse than the blacks. Slavery goes back before the time of Jesus, perhaps all countries should go back in time and make it right to the slaves they captured. Which brings up ownership of the gold/silver, it should be split between the finder and the country it was stolen from., not Spain.(just my opinion)

 

[BobOso]

A little history on Spanish gold, and some fact/or fiction on its lost gold for those interested in treasure hunting. (7 cities of cibola)

The Spanish and New World Slavery · African Laborers for a New Empire: Iberia, Slavery, and the Atlantic World · Lowcountry Digital History Initiative

ldhi.library.cofc.edu

Spanish Gold – The currency of conquest

There are not many coins that can legitimately claim to have changed the world, but the Spanish escudo is one. Struck using the abundance of gold found in the New World, the escudo (which means “sh…

coinsandhistoryfoundation.org

The Mythical Seven Cities of Cíbola – Legends of America

Tales of unimaginable riches in the land north of Mexico fired the Spanish imagination ever since the Spanish arrival in the "New World".

www.legendsofamerica.com

 

[u2robert]

Mums the word.
Finders keepers
F the Spanish

 

[BigTony]

Yeah, that was tough to take. The ship was docked in a port inside Spain and word got out what they do. So the government watched them closely. Once it was discovered a the coins were from a Government war ship they wouldn’t let the ship and crew leave Spain, even though the coins were already shipped to US. Lawsuits came shortly afterwards and I guess they settled.
US laws for Government ships are probably similar. Like we can’t detect on Federal lands.
Tony

 

[Draco]

What I will never understand is how Spain or any court will give ownership to Spain, The Spaniards came to the New World, raped and plundered, enslaved the people to dig the gold/sliver (stolen) then tried to ship it back to Spain.
I wish I could understand how it belongs to them, how they are responsible for slave ownership, after all for some reason (Not trying to be racist) but the black in the US think they are owed everything because of the past. Whith that in mind, my great,great.great (you get the picture) grandfather came on the boat in 1601 as an Irish indentured servant, who was treated much worse than the blacks. Slavery goes back before the time of Jesus, perhaps all countries should go back in time and make it right to the slaves they captured. Which brings up ownership of the gold/silver, it should be split between the finder and the country it was stolen from., not Spain.(just my opinion)

Niall Ferguson (Glasgow 1964), professor of history and writer at Harvard and New York Universities. Book: Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World, The British Empire. How Britain Forged World Order, 2003: Honestly acknowledge more than one of those mistakes / horrors. In the first place, the British Empire would have been born out of the indiscriminate plunder and looting of the Spanish Empire at the hands of pirates and criminals (also precursors of mercenaries), encouraged and protected by the English king on duty, with "a gale of robbery and violence. maritime "and by an unhealthy envy of the Spanish. "The English were aware that they could not defeat the Spanish in a formal war, according to the rules established by knights, and they feared that with the resources it was obtaining in America, Spain would be invincible for many centuries."

Do not believe everything that is said about Spain, without having a minimum knowledge of the history of that country. (I say it without acrimony)
There was no Spanish genocide in America. It was the diseases
Spain sent the gold out of America (so to speak) because a good part of America was also Spain (Overseas Provinces) The equivalent of the US states
85% of the gold stayed in America, to create hospitals, residences, universities, buildings, churches, town halls, etc.

 

[Draco]

Nombre del Hospital	Fundador	Año de fundación
Hospital de Jesús, Ciudad de México	Hernán Cortés	1521-24
Hospital de Bethlem, Perote Veracruz	Julián Garcés	1535
San Sebastián, Chiautla Puebla	Cofradía de Indios de Chiutla	1553
Ntra. Sra. del Rosario, Mérida Yucatán	Gaspar Suárez y su mujer, Cabildo de la Ciudad	1562
San Juan Montesclaros, Veracruz Veracruz	Bernardino Álvarez	1569
La Concepción, Jalapa Veracruz	Bernardino Álvarez	1569-84
San Roque, Puebla	Hipólitos y Particulares	1592
Ntra. Sra. de la Epifanía, Ciudad de México	Pedro López	1582
La Caridad, Durango Durango	Primeros vecinos pobladores	1595
San Juan de Dios, Ciudad de México	Juaninos	1604
Ntra. Sra. de Loreto, Veracruz Veracruz	Pedro Ronson	1610
Espíritu Santo, Ciudad de México	Alonso Rodríguez de Vado	1612
Ntra. Sra. de la Concepción, Celaya Guanajuato	Juaninos	1625
Real de San Bernardo, Puebla Puebla	Antonio Hernández	1626
San Juan de Dios, Pátzcuro Michichoacán	Francisco López Linzaga y hermanos	1672
San José o San Juan de Dios, Aguascalientes	Diego de Quijada	1686
Limpia Concepción, Parral Chihuahua	Cofrades Pardos, Antonio Eurecha	1687
Real el Divino Salvador, Ciudad de México	José Sayagó	1687
San Pedro, Ciudad de México	Cofradía de San Pedro	1689
Santa Catarina, Oaxaca Oaxaca	Capitán Antonio Díaz Maceda	1702
Ntra. Sra. de la Caridad, San Cristóbal de las Casas Chiapas	Álvarez de Toledo	1702
Ntra. Sra. de Guadalupe, Pachuca Hidalgo	Ayuntamiento, Alcalde, Vecinos, Oficiales Reales	1725
Ntra. Sra. de Belem, Guanajuato Guanajuato	Betlemitas	1731
San Juan de Dios, Tehuacán Puebla	Andrés de Mesa y Hnos. Gertrudis Beristáin y los Juaninos	1744
San José de Gracia, Orizaba Veracruz	Búbara de Horue	1755
Hospital Real de San Rafael, San Miguel el Grande Guanajuato	Los Vecinos	1760
Jesús, María y José, Veracruz Veracruz	Juan Antonio Ruiz de Alvarado	1779
San Andrés, Ciudad de México	Núñez de Haro y Peralta	1779
Ntra. Sra. de Guadalupe, Taxco Guerrero	Fernando de Mendoza	1793

 

[Draco]

Hospitals founded by Spain, only in Mexico

 

[Draco]

Universities in America

 

[Draco]

In 1503, the Queen of Spain authorized mixed marriage. In the USA, in 1967
And I could go on ...
I don't want to get into arguments. It is only a historical contribution, so that you do not believe everything they say

 

[Honest Samuel]

Tell Spain and all other countries, if they want their treasures, go find them, or forget them.

 

[Nauti]

Niall Ferguson (Glasgow 1964), professor of history and writer at Harvard and New York Universities. Book: Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World, The British Empire. How Britain Forged World Order, 2003: Honestly acknowledge more than one of those mistakes / horrors. In the first place, the British Empire would have been born out of the indiscriminate plunder and looting of the Spanish Empire at the hands of pirates and criminals (also precursors of mercenaries), encouraged and protected by the English king on duty, with "a gale of robbery and violence. maritime "and by an unhealthy envy of the Spanish. "The English were aware that they could not defeat the Spanish in a formal war, according to the rules established by knights, and they feared that with the resources it was obtaining in America, Spain would be invincible for many centuries."

Do not believe everything that is said about Spain, without having a minimum knowledge of the history of that country. (I say it without acrimony)
There was no Spanish genocide in America. It was the diseases
Spain sent the gold out of America (so to speak) because a good part of America was also Spain (Overseas Provinces) The equivalent of the US states
85% of the gold stayed in America, to create hospitals, residences, universities, buildings, churches, town halls, etc.

Don't look on us too harshly bud.........we've kicked most peoples butt's over the years,not just Spains..
Tell you what......you give back Melilla and Ceuta and we will give back Gibralta..

All in jest.

 

[Draco]

There is my friend, Ceuta and Melilla, they were already Spanish since the fifteenth century. Morocco was a sovereign country in 1956. I think we are a few years ahead... But that is a thing of the past. Gibraltar, Spanish!!

 

[Nauti]

We are trying to hold on to the last vestiges of our empire.....please let us keep it....makes us feel like we are still important.

 

[Draco]

LOL. you're right. But Real Madrid is the best team in the world. And my xp Deus, is better than yours. I don't know why, but it's better!! hahahaha. It's a joke. A hug!!

 

[Nauti]

hugs right back bud.........you are a good un.

Thought you may be a Tesoro Conquistador man though.

 

[Draco]

Arggg!! I have two Treasures and neither has a Spanish word. Euro saber and silver saber. Tomorrow I put them up for sale and buy another two with Spanish names. Thank you Nauti, I hadn't realised. You're a nice guy too