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The New CTX 3030 Replacement Lower Rods from Anderson Detector Shafts

Andy Sabisch

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Anderson Detector Shafts has built the well-earned reputation of designing and producing high-quality accessories for a wide range of today's most popular metal detectors for more than a decade with a focus on making them more ergonomic while not breaking the bank in doing so. When you come across a serious water hunter you can virtually bet that he or she will have swapped out the stock shaft assembly for an Anderson Detector Shaft and will rave about the way t changed their detector for the better.

Pete Anderson, one of the company's primaries is an avid hunter himself and is always listening to customers to see if there is a new product waiting to be developed and improve what people are swinging. Well, the latest addition to the Anderson line is a newly designed lower shaft that fits the Minelab CTX 3030.

Minelab FBS detectors have always opted to run the coil cable inside the shaft and while it does provide a streamlined design, it is difficult to produce and as with most of Minelab's accessories, carries a step price tag of one wants to leave different coils mounted on their own shafts to make switching coils easier. In fact, the list price on the lower shaft from Minelab is $175! Well, Anderson Detector Shafts has been building replacement shafts using carbon fiber for some time and after looking at the design of the CTX 3030 mounting clevis as well as getting requests from customers, they worked on developing a prototype. After some internal testing and tweaking, they sent several out for testing and I was fortunate enough to have received one just in time to take with me on a trip to see family over the holidays.

The first thing I noticed when I unpacked the box was that it had a different finish to it than the Minelab shaft but felt just as sturdy when I tried to flex it. The lower clevis is a different design and how the cable feeds through the shaft is also different than Minelab's. Rather than entering through the clevis itself which has snapped due to stress applied when water hunting, Anderson's design has it enter the shaft above the clevis and does so in a manner that actually provides a stronger overall design. This is an advantage when you are searching with the shaft fully extended and especially when searching in the water where drag and exert a great deal of force on the shaft mounting point.

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As you can see from the photo. the two shafts are virtually identical in length although Pete did say that he would be offering other lengths in time for different applications.

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Installing the shaft into the upper shaft assembly of the CTX 3030 took a little "jiggling" but Pete has indicated that the pin at the top of the shaft has been redesigned and eliminates that when inserting / removing the shaft. Feeding the cable up the lower shaft, it was a snap to connect it to the control housing and within seconds, I had the machine extended and was hunting in my test area.

Since I was heading to the Northeast and wading in freezing water was not high on my list of things to do on the trip, I opted to hunt several land sites to give the Anderson CTX 3030 shaft a spin or two. Since I tend to hunt with the shaft fully extended to balance the unit, if there was any flex in the shaft I would tell but despite searching a few areas with a fast, competition-like sweep, the shaft was rock-solid. I found the shaft easy to remove for cleaning which is something I tend to do regularly with my CTX 3030.

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Since I tend to use three coils depending on the site - the stock 11" coil, the Minelab 6" and the Coiltek elliptical coil - having extra shafts to mount each on is no longer a budget-busting decision. AT the time I penned this report, Pete had not finalized the pricing of the basic lower shaft but he assured me that it would be considerably less than the $175 cost of the Minelab shaft. If you already have used one of Anderson Detector Shaft's products, you know that they are quality products that will make your time in the field more productive and enjoyable - and the CTX 3030 lower shaft continues that tradition. If you have never tried one of their products yet, be sure to visit their website at www.AndersonDetectorShafts.com and check out their latest addition to the Anderson product line . . . your wallet will thank you and after a time or two in the field, you will know you made a great purchase!


Andy Sabisch
 
Thanks for sharing Andy. This looks great. Will be considering if I start going water hunting. One thing I do see is how the coil cable is hanging out more because of the distance of the opening on the shaft. The opening is a bit farther up on the shaft which makes the cable stretch away from the shaft and coil. The issue I would be concerned with is that this increases the odds of obstructions grabbing the cable and yanking on the detector then maybe even causing something to break. At least that is my prognosis from what I can see.
 
That lower Clevis design on the A. Shaft could be a problem if a Crack should ever develop in that area.
Thw Minelab appears to be of a more robust design by the looks of it but Thats my opinion
only by looking at the photo's
 
In discussing the comment above with Pete Anderson, he reminded me that the clevis design you see on the shaft in the photo has been their design on the lower shafts they market for a range of detectors for over 2 years with zero failures reported so the company is quite confident in the design and its ability to hold up to the demands of all types of hunting - including water hunting in the fully extended position.

The other comment about the coil cable entering the shaft slightly higher than the Minelab lower shaft . . . . the difference is minor and while I was not sloughing through briars and tangled undergrowth, I did push the coil under bushes at the site you see in the photo and never had a snag. Remember, the cable comes out the back of the shaft and when you are hunting, it is angled down towards the shaft. The photo shows the shafts upside down so you can see the point where the coil cable enters the shaft. Pete did say that if someone wanted to fasten the cable to the shaft because of a concern of getting the cable caught somewhere, then a Velcro strip would do the trick.

One point I forgot to mention in the initial write-up is that the shaft I was using was not the final production model and a few enhancements were not present on the one I used.. There will be a rubber grommet that is fitted inside the opening where the cable enters to provide additional protection to the cable itself and the locking pin at the top was redesigned.

Having an extra shaft with the spare coils already mounted is a real plus especially on Minelab detectors and having an option that avoids the prohibitive cost for a factory option is always a welcome option to have.

Andy Sabisch
 
Thanks for the review of these Andy! I can't wait to pick up one (or three). For my arsenal.
 
Andy Sabisch said:
In discussing the comment above with Pete Anderson, he reminded me that the clevis design you see on the shaft in the photo has been their design on the lower shafts they market for a range of detectors for over 2 years with zero failures reported so the company is quite confident in the design and its ability to hold up to the demands of all types of hunting - including water hunting in the fully extended position,

Andy Sabisch
Thats Good to Hear as I have never used an Anderson product before.Thanks for the Fast update!
Duggr
 
Andy Sabisch said:
One point I forgot to mention in the initial write-up is that the shaft I was using was not the final production model and a few enhancements were not present on the one I used.. There will be a rubber grommet that is fitted inside the opening where the cable enters to provide additional protection to the cable itself and the locking pin at the top was redesigned.

Andy Sabisch

I was just about to ask about the cable entry hole Andy, thanks for the additional update. .

Cliff
 
Andy Sabisch said:
One point I forgot to mention in the initial write-up is that the shaft I was using was not the final production model and a few enhancements were not present on the one I used.. There will be a rubber grommet that is fitted inside the opening where the cable enters to provide additional protection to the cable itself and the locking pin at the top was redesigned.

Andy Sabisch

Even without the grommet, the Anderson design puts much less 'bite' on the cable as it's routed.
One area of concern with the stock setup, is that with the coil flat against the rod (as when placing in a carry bag, or even on the ground sometimes) there is a very harsh directional change where the coil wire enters the shaft...where the sharp edge of the plastic portion of the shaft bites firmly into the coil wire insulation.

I've padded all of mine to minimize the damage, but I can see the stock setup eventually biting all the way through the outer insulation of the coil wire.
(Mind you, with casual usage it could take years, but with the way some of us hunt....)

mike
 
Once they are available, they will be on the Anderson website. Lots of us are waiting for them.
 
Talked with Anderson Detector Shafts yesterday and they are close to production but they are still fine-tuning the grommet that goes in the cable opening to ensure the cable is not impacted (although it does not look like it will be as is) and then nailing down the final price which from what they said, will be considerably less than the stock one from Minelab runs. Having extra coils already mounted on a lower shaft will make swapping coils especially in colder weather a lot easier and the mounting location makes it easier yet.

They should be available soon . . . . will be worth the wait.

I know based on having used one, we will be stocking them as we have had people ask for a spare shaft and then pass when they saw the $175 price tag.

They will be popular and initially in short supply so if you are interested in one, give us a call or send us an E-mail and Charlene can get you on the list to get one (or two) from the first shipment we receive

Andy & Charlene Sabisch
 
Andy Sabisch said:
They will be popular and initially in short supply so if you are interested in one, give us a call or send us an E-mail and Charlene can get you on the list to get one (or two) from the first shipment we receive

Andy & Charlene Sabisch

Is that this email? sales@treasurehuntingoutfitters.com
 
I agree. There is many a coil, especially the 17", where the "bite" has broken the integrity of the stress relief on the coil and exposed the wires. Mine gave out with only about a year of use. Hopefully the Anderson shaft will give me longer life out of a 400 coil.
 
I bought two of the shafts a couple of months ago, first thing is they did not go for the Rubber grommet idea in the end, they come with a length of pretty heavy duty cable wrap, personally I think is a much better idea as the cable is fully protected from rubbing, I also think that as simple as the idea was it would have been quite difficult to get a grommet to stay in place and being rubber I don't think with Salt water as a possibility it would have lasted that well.

The cable entry point as has been already mentioned is in a far better position and if the coil is folded up against the shaft it barely bends the cable over on the Minelab coils compared to the standard shaft. As the Coiltek 10x5" has a solid cable outlet protector which is a lot shorter than the standard longer flexible one, I have fitted this to the standard shaft which again barely stresses the cable when folded, so that works out well. You have to remove the plastic insert that Minelab put on the inside of the Coiled section at the plug end of the cable, because with this fitted you cant get the cable into the hole, no biggy and makes no difference in any way at all to fitting the plug into the detector or passing the cable up the shaft.

All in all I think they are great quality, just as good as their shafts which I have on a couple of my other detectors, I really like them, not only are they cheaper £70 as opposed to Minelabs £120, but they greatly reduce the chances of the coil cable failure, so a win win situation and as such a no brainer if you want extra shafts.
 
Mutley said:
No idea how too, cant find a pm link ??

Mutley, I believe you have to have some minimum # of posts before the PM function will work for you.
 
Thanks CP, probably exactly that. Sorry Pete but can you PM me then please (if you can of course) is there a problem??
 
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