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The Gold Key I found Friday (06/17/11)
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JimGilmore
Active member
Not looking for war but there seems to be a some concerns of what is ethical...
1. Your walking down a street behind a guy and see him take stuff out of his pocket. And see him lose a $20 bill...he continues walking you walk up and grab the bill..what do you do ????
2. Your walking down the street see a $20 bill lying on the side walk..you pick it up , and then what do you do ?
3. You walking in a store and see a wallet lying on the floor, What do you do?
4 You in the park and find a wallet on the grass , What do you do ?
Same with jewelery items ??? Regardless of how 1 person has acted when I returned a past item what I do is simple. Any item that could be traced in some manner is NOT mine...There is no finder's keepers and there are laws on the books as to what to do with found items....Obviously they do not apply to errant quarters.
Any time you look around to see if anybody is watching and slide an item into you pocket, You have to wonder if your doing so because you think somebody else is missing their item, and you do not want them to see you and come claim it.
Now granted a wallet with id in it is different than an errant $20 bill. But if you see the person whom lost it as they lose it or can identify the person that lost it by some means. (I've found money on the floor of a store and seen a woman franticly searching the store to pay for her meds.)
Ten there are are items a person has placed some place.....They guy that put his wallet on the table in the picnic area and walked away.
So my point is if I can get an it back to it's owner then I do. Sure it is more work and maybe I do not get a reward...but maybe I do????
1. Your walking down a street behind a guy and see him take stuff out of his pocket. And see him lose a $20 bill...he continues walking you walk up and grab the bill..what do you do ????
2. Your walking down the street see a $20 bill lying on the side walk..you pick it up , and then what do you do ?
3. You walking in a store and see a wallet lying on the floor, What do you do?
4 You in the park and find a wallet on the grass , What do you do ?
Same with jewelery items ??? Regardless of how 1 person has acted when I returned a past item what I do is simple. Any item that could be traced in some manner is NOT mine...There is no finder's keepers and there are laws on the books as to what to do with found items....Obviously they do not apply to errant quarters.
Any time you look around to see if anybody is watching and slide an item into you pocket, You have to wonder if your doing so because you think somebody else is missing their item, and you do not want them to see you and come claim it.
Now granted a wallet with id in it is different than an errant $20 bill. But if you see the person whom lost it as they lose it or can identify the person that lost it by some means. (I've found money on the floor of a store and seen a woman franticly searching the store to pay for her meds.)
Ten there are are items a person has placed some place.....They guy that put his wallet on the table in the picnic area and walked away.
So my point is if I can get an it back to it's owner then I do. Sure it is more work and maybe I do not get a reward...but maybe I do????
its pretty simple for me i work my butt off what i find i keep if metal detecting.
if i find a wallet and i have an example long time ago i was sitting in front of a cafe and was down on my luck and this truckie dropped his wallet full of cash thousands of dollars i could have pocketed it and took off but i gave it back to him, he grunted and kept going.
was out for a walk kid getting on the bus i happened to look in the bus stop seat he left his phone i picked it up and gave it to him, random finds where the person is near the find or i seen it happen i give it to them, work my ass off to find it metal detecting i own it because i worked hard for it. it really is that simple for me.
i had a kid ask me to look for his keys down the beach with my detector no probs i can do that !!
for me i drew a line in the sand to make it easy for me i work hard its mine! simple really.
chance finding with no effort on my part i have not worked for it hand it back if i can as in ID inside etc.
i am a beach hunter 1st and foremost and bugger that's hard work and i find i few goodies and they are mine mine mine no questions asked.
so in short no effort involved in the find give it back, work involved its my pay i own it.
this is how it works for me otherwise i would drive myself crazy and i brought a metal detector to find things and have fun. no guilty involved for me none whats so ever.
and at the end of the day people don't own anything we look after it for awhile then give to someone else and they look after it for awhile and on and on it goes, maybe something i found will go on in my family and get lost somewhere and be found by the descendant of the person who lost it, who knows??
its only bits of metal.
who would i give raw gold back too? its really not worth anything in human terms laying in the ground its worth nothing, pull it out and put some human terms of value on it.
the indigenous people of Australia would have been looking at tons and tons of gold just laying on the ground it was worth nothing to them because they put no value on it so its all relative, they might have used it to chuck at kangaroos or something but had no value to them.
food water and shelter had value to them as it does us the rest is fluff and excess so i don't mind picking up a bit of fluff now and then
and to fulfill my need to hunt as a man its in our blood we don't have to go out and hunt and kill food for the fam anymore so we have to satisfy that part of us to hunt some go fishing some metal detecting ..........ect.......
having gave my feelings on the matter i dont expect anybody to agree its a personal choice and full well respect what anyone chooses to do with their finds.
sorry you asked?
if i find a wallet and i have an example long time ago i was sitting in front of a cafe and was down on my luck and this truckie dropped his wallet full of cash thousands of dollars i could have pocketed it and took off but i gave it back to him, he grunted and kept going.
was out for a walk kid getting on the bus i happened to look in the bus stop seat he left his phone i picked it up and gave it to him, random finds where the person is near the find or i seen it happen i give it to them, work my ass off to find it metal detecting i own it because i worked hard for it. it really is that simple for me.
i had a kid ask me to look for his keys down the beach with my detector no probs i can do that !!
for me i drew a line in the sand to make it easy for me i work hard its mine! simple really.
chance finding with no effort on my part i have not worked for it hand it back if i can as in ID inside etc.
i am a beach hunter 1st and foremost and bugger that's hard work and i find i few goodies and they are mine mine mine no questions asked.
so in short no effort involved in the find give it back, work involved its my pay i own it.
this is how it works for me otherwise i would drive myself crazy and i brought a metal detector to find things and have fun. no guilty involved for me none whats so ever.
and at the end of the day people don't own anything we look after it for awhile then give to someone else and they look after it for awhile and on and on it goes, maybe something i found will go on in my family and get lost somewhere and be found by the descendant of the person who lost it, who knows??
its only bits of metal.
who would i give raw gold back too? its really not worth anything in human terms laying in the ground its worth nothing, pull it out and put some human terms of value on it.
the indigenous people of Australia would have been looking at tons and tons of gold just laying on the ground it was worth nothing to them because they put no value on it so its all relative, they might have used it to chuck at kangaroos or something but had no value to them.
food water and shelter had value to them as it does us the rest is fluff and excess so i don't mind picking up a bit of fluff now and then
and to fulfill my need to hunt as a man its in our blood we don't have to go out and hunt and kill food for the fam anymore so we have to satisfy that part of us to hunt some go fishing some metal detecting ..........ect.......
having gave my feelings on the matter i dont expect anybody to agree its a personal choice and full well respect what anyone chooses to do with their finds.
sorry you asked?
obviously i stirred up a "hornet's nest" with that one!.your point is valid,and in "hindsight"
which is 20/20 i shouldn't have mentioned it,as my meaning was "misconstrued!"
everything is relative,and subject to interpretation,and to be perfectly honest,in this "mindless"
medium,with emotion difficult to convey,sometimes things are better left unsaid!..just sayin!
(h.h.!)
j.t.
which is 20/20 i shouldn't have mentioned it,as my meaning was "misconstrued!"
everything is relative,and subject to interpretation,and to be perfectly honest,in this "mindless"
medium,with emotion difficult to convey,sometimes things are better left unsaid!..just sayin!
(h.h.!)
j.t.
oh no i don't think a hornets nest just a little buzz here and there 
not to worry we all have opinions and like i say to people the only persons opinion that really counts is yours so make sure you are good with it 
arh we live and learn and there are relative truths and well like i said we all have to believe in something, its just when its used to carry guilt it can become some destructive. just my opinion and i am good with it
sure you are good with yours too so who knows what the real truth is?? we will all find out one day.
AJ
not to worry we all have opinions and like i say to people the only persons opinion that really counts is yours so make sure you are good with it arh we live and learn and there are relative truths and well like i said we all have to believe in something, its just when its used to carry guilt it can become some destructive. just my opinion and i am good with it
sure you are good with yours too so who knows what the real truth is?? we will all find out one day.
AJ
JimGilmore
Active member
I did not mean to make my statements to be personal or an attack at anybody.
I do believe that there is some higher power though I doubt that any one religion has any claim to it from what I ave seen.
It is just that I have friend whom have show me things in life that I trey to pass on.
We all have hings we say that are ours....what changes ownership is at present is determined by laws that we as civilized society agree upon.
Ownership is neither changed by where a person puts that item or misplaces that item.
As for gold and coins, nobody can definitively identify coins or bills as to the one they may have had or lost. So We all work on the assumption that coins lost can not be traced to their owner or last owner.
As for jewelery , most jewelery is neither distinct enough or valuable enough to have any way to trace the owners down.
As for nuggets in the outback or other locations, it comes down to whom owns the land or property's mineral rights.
It was just that an item with that many diamonds and that high a gold content seemed to me that it should have some history to it.
As I said I mean not to impugn anybody reputation or value's.
I tried to return a ring a few years back and All I wanted to do was get a photo op to return the ring. I was told it was not hers by her mom. So I scraped the ring. I figured either she lost it and did not want her mom to know or she had insurance and had already claimed it and received a replacement.
I do believe that there is some higher power though I doubt that any one religion has any claim to it from what I ave seen.
It is just that I have friend whom have show me things in life that I trey to pass on.
We all have hings we say that are ours....what changes ownership is at present is determined by laws that we as civilized society agree upon.
Ownership is neither changed by where a person puts that item or misplaces that item.
As for gold and coins, nobody can definitively identify coins or bills as to the one they may have had or lost. So We all work on the assumption that coins lost can not be traced to their owner or last owner.
As for jewelery , most jewelery is neither distinct enough or valuable enough to have any way to trace the owners down.
As for nuggets in the outback or other locations, it comes down to whom owns the land or property's mineral rights.
It was just that an item with that many diamonds and that high a gold content seemed to me that it should have some history to it.
As I said I mean not to impugn anybody reputation or value's.
I tried to return a ring a few years back and All I wanted to do was get a photo op to return the ring. I was told it was not hers by her mom. So I scraped the ring. I figured either she lost it and did not want her mom to know or she had insurance and had already claimed it and received a replacement.
Ken in Georgia
New member
Does anybody want their pulltab back ? LoL
JimGilmore
Active member
Wish we could id them and hand them back with a littering fine......would definitely add millions to the cities coffer's.
JimGilmore
Active member
Steve...define value.... If the local law inforcement could id each person whom tossed the trash on the ground and actully got them to pay the $400.00 fine for littering.
Heck they could afford to have a cop every 5 feet.
Heck they could afford to have a cop every 5 feet.
sgoss66
Well-known member
You are right Jim!
Sometimes it seems like detectorists are the only ones who know how to actually put pull tabs in the trash can. If law enforcment knew how much metal trash detectorists recover and deposit into its appropriate place (as opposed to what your average park user does with THEIR trash), you'd think they'd INVITE detectorists IN (instead of passing laws to keep them out).
Steve
Sometimes it seems like detectorists are the only ones who know how to actually put pull tabs in the trash can. If law enforcment knew how much metal trash detectorists recover and deposit into its appropriate place (as opposed to what your average park user does with THEIR trash), you'd think they'd INVITE detectorists IN (instead of passing laws to keep them out).
Steve
i recon she would be!!
see i see it a bit different surprise surprise its those tossers who are born in to this throw away society who also are very sloppy with their goodies too!! no tossers no goodies 
like lilly allen says its not my fault its how i'm programed to function
we made this drive through throw away society, or was that macca's
see i see it a bit different surprise surprise
its those tossers who are born in to this throw away society who also are very sloppy with their goodies too!! no tossers no goodies like lilly allen says its not my fault its how i'm programed to function
we made this drive through throw away society, or was that macca's