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The best "trash searching" metal detector?

wayne_etc

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OK folks. I'm asking opinions here and we all know that can be a dangerous thing.

That said, what do you think is the best detector WITH STOCK SET-UP for searching trashy areas? In other words, with the stock coil rather than a small "sniper" type coil?

Thanks in advance!

w
 
Of the few I have used, I would say the Teknetics T2. Just my opinion, soil conditions may play a factor.

Dave
 
Well Wayne

That would have to be a Trashoro metal detector.
 
Oooh yeah, I've heard some good things about those stinkers!


w
 
- - with a stock coil? Hmmmmm, Im leaning on the narrow ellipticals, in that case.

Two I've had success with are the Fisher F70 and Ace 250. Today, I wouldn't buy one of the Ace's myself, as the honeymoon wore off that one a long time ago. But the Fisher is a dandy instrument.

But this is really about target response and separation, or how mant targets are below the coil - and what the detector does about it. This is why the sniper coils do well in trash - they arent blinded by too many signals. I think generally, the stock ellipticals do better than others at this.
Also a "DD" type sees a smaller bite of ground, more of a hot strip along it lengthwise axis. I think the Fisher F75 is the only detector that comes from the factory with such a coil, though. It's also a great detector, for those with the fortitude to master it.

P S Im not endorsing Fisher here, although I do like them.
 
Thanks Dave. I figured we would see folks mention the T2 and the Fisher F line.


w
 
Yeah, that's why I made the caviat of stock coil only. Generally speaking a slower detector with a small coil will do better in trash than a faster detector with a big coil. Some of us (like me) can only have one coil.

Thanks for the response!

w
 
Why only one coil? I thought acc. coils were like Lays potato chips, ya can't stop with just one.
 
I know, I know...like playing 18 holes of golf with one club!

w
 
n/t
 
So does the TEsoro Lobo and you can order most of the Tesoros from a dealer with a widescan coil if you desire and the dealer will work with you. also a F75 has that type of coil.
In my experience those are the best.
Neil
 
Yeah Neil for the Minelab Advantage there is no concentric coil at all for this detector.I go right through the trash with a Tesoro!.I think you boy's should check one out.Ya'll can keep thinking those high priced digital tv screen buzz boxes are the way to go but if i were you i would just get a Vaquero or a Tejon and be done with it.What you got to loose,it's a Tesoro,it's covered for life.Every serious treasure hunter needs a detector covered for life.You better get one before they go digital!.:rofl: Is your software updated yet?.
 
I heard Teknetics T2 and Fisher is all Bounty Hunter now,is this true?I also had some friends say the T2 and F75 had a serious problem with bad chatter problems,is this true?I heard you could not hunt around power lines at all with a T2 or F75.IT seems these detectors have issues? did they get fixed with the new T2 LTD and Fisher F75 LTD?.Seems like a lot of money to pay for a metal detector with chatter problems?.
 
Brokensignal said:
Yeah Neil for the Minelab Advantage there is no concentric coil at all for this detector.I go right through the trash with a Tesoro!.I think you boy's should check one out.Ya'll can keep thinking those high priced digital tv screen buzz boxes are the way to go but if i were you i would just get a Vaquero or a Tejon and be done with it.What you got to loose,it's a Tesoro,it's covered for life.Every serious treasure hunter needs a detector covered for life.You better get one before they go digital!.:rofl: Is your software updated yet?.

Ive got a Tejon(right now fitted up with the cleansweep) and also a Vaquero that Ive got the 5X10 on:tesoro::thumbup:
I hunt them as much as my minelab:surrender:

Neil
 
Brokensignal said:
I heard Teknetics T2 and Fisher is all Bounty Hunter now,is this true?
They are all owned by the same parent company, First Texas. Just as Chrysler is/was owned by Daimler-Benz, and Pepperidge Farms, Pace, and V8 juices are owned by the Campbell soup company.

I also had some friends say the T2 and F75 had a serious problem with bad chatter problems,is this true?
I heard you could not hunt around power lines at all with a T2 or F75. IT seems these detectors have issues? did they get fixed with the new T2 LTD and Fisher F75 LTD? Seems like a lot of money to pay for a metal detector with chatter problems?.
Its a good thing you are asking here - sometimes you gotta be careful with the advice of friends.
The "problem" with the F75/T2 format is the gain. It has a lot of it - if you want to call that a problem, or having "issues."
There are adjustment sat each stage which allow you to significantly increase the gain of the received signal (the output is fixed by FCC mandate.). This compounds exponentially to give these detectors a TON of sensitivity; far more than the average detector. If you wind that out in the wrong places, in the wrong way - then you can get into trouble with EMF interference or noise from ground chatter.
On that note, I hunt with guys that swing F75's and T-2's. We have hunted directly under power lines, in city trash lots, and they had no trouble finding stuff... good stuff I might add. So as you can see, there is nothing to "fix" with the new models, as you suggested. It's like being a fighter pilot: it's is all in how you use the power available to you.
 
OK. I know I'm not the brightest star in the universe-but the Tracker series from BH or First Texas are my choice. Now remember we're talking trash:rofl: now. These detectors have the dual-tone ID that can be set where the tabs split the tones-giving you 3 tones. You may think of this setting as a transistor with the bias setting-it only takes a fraction of voltage to turn the thing on. Likewise, the point where the tabs split the tones could be thought of as the "bias" in the disc setting-it only takes a fraction more to activate the high tone for coins. Thus, coins next to tabs or even UNDERNEATH them activate the high tone, or coins mixed in spills with the nickel coins or trash being predominant STILL activates the high tone, and when the coins are removed the low tone for the nickel or mixed tone for tabs will remain. Under some conditions like this, notch detectors or ID detectors will either reject or ID these as trash. The trade-off? You get a lot of signals 'cause all targets will sound off! There have been times when confronted with overwhelming trash, I have set the tone break at square tab or zincers and just dug the high tones. STILL, it finds the coins next to tabs.
 
slingshot said:
.. the Tracker series from BH or First Texas are my choice. These detectors have the dual-tone ID that can be set where the tabs split the tones-giving you 3 tones....the point where the tabs split the tones could be thought of as the "bias" in the disc setting-it only takes a fraction more to activate the high tone for coins.
Thus, coins next to tabs or even UNDERNEATH them activate the high tone, or coins mixed in spills with the nickel coins or trash being predominant STILL activates the high tone, and when the coins are removed the low tone for the nickel or mixed tone for tabs will remain. Under some conditions like this, notch detectors or ID detectors will either reject or ID these as trash. The trade-off? You get a lot of signals 'cause all targets will sound off! There have been times when confronted with overwhelming trash, I have set the tone break at square tab or zincers and just dug the high tones. STILL, it finds the coins next to tabs.
The MXT, from White's can do this, too; split the signals as you put it. Unfortunately it comes with a honking big coil that sees a lot of ground.
Others can give similar tonal clues, while maintaining good separation - the F70 comes to mind.

But I tell you, next time I see a Tracker at a decent price - I may get one!
 
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