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The best beach detector ever ...

Willie... I dig everything but even I have my limits and a iron infested beach is no place for a PI and I use my PI about 90% of the time and a 100% in the wet... I have used it in the dry stuff but I prefer a VLF and my choice would be the Excalibur or a similar deep detector...


Sorry GA to burst your bubble ;)
 
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I've had plenty of those, even with my vf;'s :))), a shovel does a much quicker job in the wet and dry, but when you're in the water and decide to go back and forth between water and wet, it becomes a pain in the ass to dig with a scoop. They don't make scoops even half as big as they need to be.
 
But I also understand that our beaches are much different than those hunted north of the Fla. / Ga. line. Here we seem to have much sandier beaches that are pretty much rock free. I always run my PI wide open with no discrimination and believe it or not, sometimes I don't get a hit of any kind for 20 or 30 minutes. Digging is easier because of the loose sand and I believe that because we have so many detectorists in the area, a lot of the trash is removed daily. That doesn't mean that you won't get the bobbie pins and can slaw but it has been my experience that the trash signals are usually shallow and easy to recover. The heavier and more valuable targets are usually deeper and weak signals. I love to dig for "hallucinations". So for me. I prefer a PI unit ran wide open, no disc. what-so-ever and a BIG aluminum scoop for quick retrieval. I prefer the aluminum scoop because a stainless steel scoop carried by my side interferes with my coil when I sweep to the left (the side I carry my scoop) so I have to throw it over my shoulder to avoid any falsing. Aluminum doesn't cause any interference at all so I can carry it by my side underwater. By carrying it underwater parallel to the bottom, the water helps lighten the weight of the scoop. Just my opinion

therick
 
I hunt with both and pick my beaches. Some R so full of slaw & bobbie pins that it makes a PI guy nuts. I hunt them all with a PI in the fall-winter 2 get the old deep targets but summer it is an Excal for the fresh drops & our beaches R so heavily hunted then that unless U get it that day it is usually found. That is why alot of our guys R going over 2 visit Steve!!!!!
 
So after all the back and forth what it boils down to is what you get used to.The PI users swear by the PI machines and VLF users swear by theirs......below is my recent experience.

I bought a Garrett Infinium to use in the saltwater and it has been nothing but a royal pain in the butt. The unit has been sent in for repair and still you have to turn the discrimination way past what is recommended in the manual to get it semi quiet in the water. I would not recommend this machine
 
I hate to think I have to send it in again for another repair and I don't want to spend 150.00 on a different coil to end up with the same problem. I may see about taking it back to Kellyco and trading for something else . The trouble there is being limited to what can be used in saltwater.......
 
I never dig a signal more than three scoops down when I water hunt.
I dont want to leave a big hole that is a pain to fill in, so what ever it is can stay there for the next guy.

A ring is not going to give you a strong signal if it is 12 to 13 inches down in the sand.

Winter hunting at low tide is another matter.
I might go as deep as 6 scoops then.
 
I have a surfmaster pi, dfx, sovereign, ace 150 & 250, and an excal with hard wired Wot coil. The Excal is my first choice for the beach ,
followed by the PI.
 
I never give up on signals... but I know my PI and I know what to dig with it... I am listening for deep whispers, I have recovered old gold down past 22 inches with my PI.. the entire reason behind using a PI is to get what the VLF user can't even hear... :)
 
All detectors have their weak and strong areas and it would be hard to make a blanket statement either way. I use both Minelabs and PIs where I feel I'll get the best results. After all I'm there for the gold and view and glad to get it. If there is a lot of trash and don't want to dig that day I use the Minelab mainly in the dry and wet sand. If the beach is fairly clean (like my area) I'll grab the Goldquest for the wet and dry sand and switch to the LS for deeper water hunting. I personally prefer to take a few detectors on any trip land or sea! HH Sandmagnet!
 
If you are experiencing interference because of the mineralization in the salt water, you most definitely have a problem somewhere. I've used the Garrett XL500 PI machine for about 20 years and recently switched to a Headhunter PI unit and I have never had any interference with either of them. Like I said before, no disc and run her wide open and dig what ever signals pass beneath your coil. Otherwise the machine is no good to you or if you decide to sell it to anyone. Good luck..........detectors are like cars, if everyone liked the same model, we'd all be driving the same one.

therick
 
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