Wish to thank you all for you replies and thoughts, just ordered new 2500 from Ron in Tenn. That makes a total of 3 Garrett's for me and my wife, got her a ACE250 and now me with the 2500 and the old reliable ADS 111, should have taken my wifes advice in the beginning and ordered the garrett, probably will be looking for advice in the future on the new machine, thanks again.