"Tesoro talk" learn the language,,,,,,,

[BarberBill]

The problem I mentioned with the smaller coils is (for me anyway) if I don't slow down, by the time I react to the signal and try to pinpoint, I've already swung the coil a fair bit past the signal and have to search a bit more to repeat it. And as someone mentioned, sweeping any coil slower in trashy conditions should help with masking problems unless the area is extremely trashy.

A good thing to try with whatever machine you use is to see how it handles a coin under, then near, then a bit farther from a fair sized nail or other trash object. If you're set to disc out iron, the machine may not recognize the coin at all until the nail is a few inches from the coin because the disc setting won't beep when the machine is reading and rejecting the iron/trash target. This is one reason to hunt in all metal so that any target is detected although you will usually end up digging a lot of trash to determine whether the beep was a good target.

Upside down gum drop or tapered bowl would be fairly close. The narrower sliver description may be a bit too narrow a picture, but the widescan or DD coils have a pattern that is more narrow and longer from front to rear than the concentric's gum drop. Due to the narrower foot print, the widescan coils generally separate in trashy areas a bit better size for size due to the fact that the pattern is smaller in the cross dimension. Hope this is helpful.

BB

 

[tvr]

With the concentric coil, for targets next to each other, sometimes I'll raise the coil a little to help isolate targets by narrowing the part of the cone (or gum drop) that is hitting the targets. Also, walk around the target to sweep at it from multiple directions. The walk around a target can help with both types of coils.

 

[Darkflight]

And frankly I have to remind myself to listen to me.


But it was working well for me...The simple language allows me to "paint" the ground I'm searching. Especially with the larger coil.

When I had probable multiple targets a fast sweep over them will help give "priority". In that I will typically hear one target stronger than the rest & I'll dig that out 1st as it does the most masking. Then another target or 3 may be picked out. Or try another way by setting the disc to dime & take the higher targets 1st.

The area-a soccer field in a so so nieghborhood-littered with tabs & bottlecaps. The tabs get dug as they ring true & y'all know the drill. But I was able to pass by aprox 50% of the bottle caps & can slaw I encountered.According to the guys with target ID machines that requires a tone roll ID. But frankly I can do the shake-make my decision & dig or move on sooo much faster. I am seriously tempted to get one of those machines as I wade the rivers a lot. But I doubt its going to out find my Troy X-2 w/ 12" coil & external GB on dry ground. I'd be happy to be wrong & its tax return time in a few months so I'm doing my homework. But today really impressed me the way that machine goes through targets.

Cheers!
Carl.

 

[hardrockminer]

can someone answer this for me,,,,what shape is the is the search area under the coil ? (on my Silver uMax with standard coil)
-the full shape of a upside down gumdrop
-a narrow sliver thru the center of a upside down gumdrop
-add your own description,,,,thanks

grouser,

The regular coil has a pattern like a cone with the center part giving you the most depth, thats why it is so important to overlap sweeps with this style of coil.

DD and bigfoot style usuly have less depth but have pretty uniform depth, nose to toe down the center of the coil.

A person wrote a great book on the MXT & covered the popular coils & there patterns so you could visuly see how each worked, wish Tesoro or somebody would do the same for each of their coils. It would answer many peoples questions on how to best use each type of coil.

HaRM

 

[Sven]

Just thinking to myself. Many new machine owners don't take the time to learn the language, they sell them off
shortly after buying them. It may not perform as others have posted.....they never learn it. So they buy another make model
and repeat the same ordeal.........for these people the LCD ID machines excel. They may pass up a lot of goodies
re-lying on the ID...that's ok.
We'll come along afterwards and take them home with us.

I think it takes me about 100 hours with a machine digging tons of junk and goodies before I get a good feel what my
machine is saying. I find myself hunting in all metal mode more so now and toggling to disc mode. I'll compare the
two signals along with changing coil movement and height depending upon the target. Finding this more important since moving
to Canada. These nickel plated steel claddage, keeps you guessing. A coin spill with the stock coil can sound like a larger pc.
of trash you may normally pass up. Take the stock coil, move it back and forth a couple inches over the area numerous times and you'll see
the individual coins in your head and you should be able to separate the signals a bit. It's amazing how many coins I found this year
next to nails and wire.

I am still a big fan of the older analog machines, the language is richer than todays digital machines, so I still have a couple around.
Found the Tesoro units are the next best detectors for my type of hunting, so the Eldo is now my main machine. My favorite beach machine,
if there's a target, I'll get it.

 

[tab-nabit]

That's one of the things I like about the Tesoro's, the audio quality. I have a difficult time getting used to some of the digital generated audio others have. The audio is my 1st decision maker for a dig. A screen is secondary but not my decision maker. So that makes my Tesoro's feel right to me.