Hi again folks. Can I start by saying thank you to everyone for their help and advice, this is by far the best help I have recieved on any forum for this problem, and I find your help invaluable. I was out for the first time today with the Cibola at Linlithgow palace(near Edinburgh) I didn't find much but had a great day out with some stunning views of the forth bridge and palace, google Linlithgow palace and you'll see what I mean. I think I'm going to get on with the Cibola, it seems like a great machine. Cheers again. Alan, in Scotland. HH