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Tesoro Compadre First Finds
- Thread starter neswiper
- Start date
Somebody's been busy!
http://www.youtube.com/user/neswiper
Hey man, nice vids! be sure to keep mentioning the Tesoro brand and model in the titles, there are not a lot of Tesoro videos and I thought that really sucked when I was doing my research! You are definatly obsessed!
My next tip: Dirt cheap target ID! When your over a target and get a solid hit, raise the coil until it just starts to breakup. Now lower it HALFWAY between the breakup point and the ground and slowly thumb the discrimination UP while sweeping until it starts to breakup. Wherever the discrimination is set when it just starts to breakup is a good idea of the VDI range of that target. Make sure your directly over the target when your sweeping and discriminating so you have the strongest signal. For example if you turn it up until it starts to breakup and your at the pulltab threshold, your target is in that range. You can also use this as a generic notch discrimination. Set your threshold until your JUST at the nickel. When you get a hit, thumb towards the pulltab. If it dissapears, your in the nickel range. Undrestand? Now the first few times you do this, dig it regardless of what you think, the process may need fine tuning.
I also noticed in some of your videos that you don't overlap your sweeps. Always overlap your sweeps!
The tips don't make the detector perfect, but they all help dig less trash. So try that one for a while and see if life gets any easier. keep those videos coming!
- Matt
http://www.youtube.com/user/neswiper
Hey man, nice vids! be sure to keep mentioning the Tesoro brand and model in the titles, there are not a lot of Tesoro videos and I thought that really sucked when I was doing my research! You are definatly obsessed!
My next tip: Dirt cheap target ID! When your over a target and get a solid hit, raise the coil until it just starts to breakup. Now lower it HALFWAY between the breakup point and the ground and slowly thumb the discrimination UP while sweeping until it starts to breakup. Wherever the discrimination is set when it just starts to breakup is a good idea of the VDI range of that target. Make sure your directly over the target when your sweeping and discriminating so you have the strongest signal. For example if you turn it up until it starts to breakup and your at the pulltab threshold, your target is in that range. You can also use this as a generic notch discrimination. Set your threshold until your JUST at the nickel. When you get a hit, thumb towards the pulltab. If it dissapears, your in the nickel range. Undrestand? Now the first few times you do this, dig it regardless of what you think, the process may need fine tuning.
I also noticed in some of your videos that you don't overlap your sweeps. Always overlap your sweeps!
The tips don't make the detector perfect, but they all help dig less trash. So try that one for a while and see if life gets any easier. keep those videos coming!
- Matt
quote : You can also use this as a generic notch discrimination. Set your threshold until your JUST at the nickel. When you get a hit, thumb towards the pulltab. If it dissapears, your in the nickel range. Undrestand? "
That makes perfect sense! If it goes away before the pull tab setting, then it's a shot at a nickel or some other object in that range. That is valuable advice I sure thank you for. I feel like I should have known that. My junk science was getting the best of me. Just when I think I have done all I can with one knob, the machine keeps reinventing itself. That is going to be a huge amount of insight in target ID probability.
I'll make another mental note of the sweep overlapping. I'll have to think about it for quite some time before it becomes second nature.
Thanks again for the priceless tips and encouragement.
That makes perfect sense! If it goes away before the pull tab setting, then it's a shot at a nickel or some other object in that range. That is valuable advice I sure thank you for. I feel like I should have known that. My junk science was getting the best of me. Just when I think I have done all I can with one knob, the machine keeps reinventing itself. That is going to be a huge amount of insight in target ID probability.
I'll make another mental note of the sweep overlapping. I'll have to think about it for quite some time before it becomes second nature.
Thanks again for the priceless tips and encouragement.
Hombre said:
Last time I checked it takes less time to thumb a knob than to dig everything that makes a noise. I think I speak on behalf of everyone when I say thank you for that outstanding and positive contribution to the hobby, this post especially. Maybe next time you'll be decent enough to grace us with an actual text body. But an efficiency master such as yourself would never waste his time 'fiddling with that TAB key' to put the message in the second box..
- Matt
The first target I dug in an old yard the other day was a small gold ring. It was my first gold and it hit like trash.
That should teach me a lesson about digging those low conductivity targets, but it probably won't.
Because I'm a lazy bum and digging trash blows.
I know I'm missing good stuff, but I can't help it. Especially when I'm at the end of one of those not very productive hunts and DARN IT I WANT SOME GOOD TARGETS SO I TURN UP THE DISCRIMINATION AND CHERRY PICK!
I feel better now. Confession is good for the soul.
That should teach me a lesson about digging those low conductivity targets, but it probably won't.
Because I'm a lazy bum and digging trash blows.
I know I'm missing good stuff, but I can't help it. Especially when I'm at the end of one of those not very productive hunts and DARN IT I WANT SOME GOOD TARGETS SO I TURN UP THE DISCRIMINATION AND CHERRY PICK!
I feel better now. Confession is good for the soul.
Today I used the advice of Matt and Hombre and dug my First Ring. Likely silver plated. It's junk, but, it's a 'nickel range' item. Combining this new skill with what Hombre essentially said (just dig the darn thing), I am coming out a winner. Now I get the nickels and rings with about %30 less digging aluminum. Thumb the disc for a clue and when in doubt, dig. It's a winning formula! I would not have found half of what I took home today without their combined advice.
Adding to this, lifting the coil and getting a clue about the depth was the other great advice that has made my digs faster. Digging the target effeciently and moving on quickly is key. I'm sure this is all page one to most the people here, but, to me it's like walking for the first time after 50 hours of crawling. Now teach me to run.
I am finding coins deeper than free air tests.
I have a question if you please don't mind. Where are those silver coins going to fall on the discrimination dial. Are they past pull tab like all coins but non war nickels? I'll do just about anything to prove I can FIND one.
Adding to this, lifting the coil and getting a clue about the depth was the other great advice that has made my digs faster. Digging the target effeciently and moving on quickly is key. I'm sure this is all page one to most the people here, but, to me it's like walking for the first time after 50 hours of crawling. Now teach me to run.
I am finding coins deeper than free air tests.
I have a question if you please don't mind. Where are those silver coins going to fall on the discrimination dial. Are they past pull tab like all coins but non war nickels? I'll do just about anything to prove I can FIND one.
SiIver will hit high on the VDI range, past a cent. Thats if it's lying flat in the hole. On endge it will break up into a double 'blip' usually. Be patient. I have not found my first silver coin yet, but I have found silver items. I only have one summer under my belt, so I have time. Bear in mind that when money actually had value (made from precious metals) it was worth a lot more in terms of purchasing power. A silver half in 1932 would buy a lot of food! So when someone dropped one, they looked for it! Keep hitting your highly traveled and old sites. It will turn up sooner or later.
- Matt
- Matt
I got a ton of relics over my way, but I have hit nothing public yet. I kept doing turn of the century homes where I knew the owners last summer. I just got my permit to do public parks, so if it ever stops raining over here, i'm on it! Just remember that your newfound knowledge is a bit of reverse logic. In the end the suggestions I make are not to help you call the good targets, but to dig less of the bad ones. In the end target ID is impossible to perfect once you understand the theory behind the technology. Do some reading on the 'VDI scale' and it might hit you like a ton of bricks. If not it's a post it will take a LOT more time for me to type out. Here are a couple of my relics (see attachments);
#1 - My first finds in my moms back yard in OH. All recent coins. That was her back yard, day 1. I was staying for a week up there when I bought it, had to take it for a swing. I remember texting that photo to my fiance with the comment 'Honey, were gonna be rich!' hahahaha!
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#2 - My first Silver found in the backyard of the home I grew up in. I dug that entire back yard up as a kid and never once did I bump into it. Very vintage Cameo, solid sterling silver. A cameo expert I emailed it to couldn't even identify it! It's very humble so it's very early.
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#3 - Commerotive copper badge. States 'Unveiling of the grant memorial - Philidelphia PA, 1899' - Found in another turn of the century home yard of which I also know the owner.
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And I have many other cool finds, But my first silver coin eludes me. I have found musket balls with civil war history behind them, old colgate tokens! all kinds of neat things you would never have imagined existed at one time. I don't have years of experience, but the experience I do have I offer to you because thats what a forum is for (amongst other things). It's a great hobby! Just be patient, it will come. Thats the point. Until then enjoy all the other cool stuff!
- Matt
#1 - My first finds in my moms back yard in OH. All recent coins. That was her back yard, day 1. I was staying for a week up there when I bought it, had to take it for a swing. I remember texting that photo to my fiance with the comment 'Honey, were gonna be rich!' hahahaha!
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#2 - My first Silver found in the backyard of the home I grew up in. I dug that entire back yard up as a kid and never once did I bump into it. Very vintage Cameo, solid sterling silver. A cameo expert I emailed it to couldn't even identify it! It's very humble so it's very early.
[attachment 125944 cameo1-small.JPG]
#3 - Commerotive copper badge. States 'Unveiling of the grant memorial - Philidelphia PA, 1899' - Found in another turn of the century home yard of which I also know the owner.
[attachment 125945 monument.jpg]
And I have many other cool finds, But my first silver coin eludes me. I have found musket balls with civil war history behind them, old colgate tokens! all kinds of neat things you would never have imagined existed at one time. I don't have years of experience, but the experience I do have I offer to you because thats what a forum is for (amongst other things). It's a great hobby! Just be patient, it will come. Thats the point. Until then enjoy all the other cool stuff!
- Matt
neswiper said:
Howdy wiper
Good for you, you will get the hang of it, if ya ain't dig'n trash, ya ain't dig'n the cash. In aswer to your your last question, silver coins are'nt going to fall off no matter how far you turn up the disc. BUT if your ground balance is way positive it could it could disc out larger silver coins. As far as silver rings are concerned, they can be disc'ed out as low as the pull tab range for a small one, or the big one's hang in there all the way into the silver coin range. Location plays a big part of the old finds equation.If there are'nt any old coins there.............you ain't gonna find them. If you find yourself in a good old spot( Location ), and looks like it might produce, just raise your disc. up to knock out a small nail. Then dig up every thing that beeps and sounds good for at least an hour to sample the "good and bad" ratio. Have a good'n.................Hombre
Hey Swiper you are on the right track for a good find. Just keep on diggin! Never Surrender! I gotta be one of your biggest fans on you tube. I get a blast out of your vids. Awww Man!!! At least you show the reality of metal detecting. Not like some other videos that show morgan dollars and gold rings strewn everywhere in a park. I'm sure those areas may exist but are rare. Keep up the good work and I can't wait for more you tube vids!
Thanks Hombre and everyone else that posts here. A couple days after the silver discussion I found my first silver coin. A 58 dime. EVERY time I go out with the Compadre I find something interesting. Even though I will never outgrow this machine's capability, I am already plotting a significant upgrade.
You know, I've been a shortwave/hf radio/scanner/ham nut for 35 of my 39 years. BFO's, VFO's, Notch Filters, Frequencies, CW, Coils, Antennas etc etc. Now that is a hobby. Metal Detecting is an all out SPORT! I don't even ride my Ninja 750 any more unless it's to take me Detecting. You see, I am one of these thrill seekers that will get a little depressed when the thrill switch is not on. Metal Detecting has toned down this personality trait/flaw a bit. I'm hooked. Likely it will keep me out of trouble in the future.
Having summed that up in a nut shell, some day I might put an all metal toggle on this machine. That's all the Compadre needs. I like to go all metal during the dig to keep tabs on other objects.
You know, I've been a shortwave/hf radio/scanner/ham nut for 35 of my 39 years. BFO's, VFO's, Notch Filters, Frequencies, CW, Coils, Antennas etc etc. Now that is a hobby. Metal Detecting is an all out SPORT! I don't even ride my Ninja 750 any more unless it's to take me Detecting. You see, I am one of these thrill seekers that will get a little depressed when the thrill switch is not on. Metal Detecting has toned down this personality trait/flaw a bit. I'm hooked. Likely it will keep me out of trouble in the future.
Having summed that up in a nut shell, some day I might put an all metal toggle on this machine. That's all the Compadre needs. I like to go all metal during the dig to keep tabs on other objects.