Tejon which one?

[REVIER]

The Tejon is the only true 180ED unit still currently sold besides the Compadre which means hunting in Disc it accepts all targets just like all metal.
This can come in handy for finding micro jewelry and chains, all the Tesoros do a good job on this but kind of like a little extra sensitivity on the small stuff.
Coins and rings are no problem for any unit in this brand and the Tejon is supposed to be pretty deep...in good soil.
I would think the double disc would come in handy for hunting in iron or trash or just park hunting in general.

I use a Vaq and as you know I have pretty rough soil and I have a big DD coil but I also have a standard and small 5.75" concentric and they seem to work pretty well also.
As far as depth I don't recall the big DD getting a whole lot deeper around here but I might have not come across much deep in my time and most of the time spent with my Vaq was before I learned more about using it.

In heavy iron I do know the concentrics seem to work pretty good as far as separating targets...surprisingly.

As far as that double disc I would probably set it just below nickel as a check and hunt a little lower than that if I was looking for coins.
For jewelry I rarely turn my disc much higher than lower foil where condiment packages come in...if that.
I sometimes use all metal but lots if times use the disc way down in iron to hear the clearest deepest signals and thumb up to figure them out.
I never just set it and dig everything that beeps, never did.
It seems to be more accurate to thumb up past the fade out out point and then slowly back down to the fade in area.

Tesoros are fun, especially when you get a handle on the sounds and language and I assume this one will be no different.
Have fun!

 

[dirtfishinfool]

The Tejon is the only true 180ED unit still currently sold besides the Compadre which means hunting in Disc it accepts all targets just like all metal.
This can come in handy for finding micro jewelry and chains, all the Tesoros do a good job on this but kind of like a little extra sensitivity on the small stuff.
Coins and rings are no problem for any unit in this brand and the Tejon is supposed to be pretty deep...in good soil.
I would think the double disc would come in handy for hunting in iron or trash or just park hunting in general.

I use a Vaq and as you know I have pretty rough soil and I have a big DD coil but I also have a standard and small 5.75" concentric and they seem to work pretty well also.
As far as depth I don't recall the big DD getting a whole lot deeper around here but I might have not come across much deep in my time and most of the time spent with my Vaq was before I learned more about using it.

In heavy iron I do know the concentrics seem to work pretty good as far as separating targets...surprisingly.

As far as that double disc I would probably set it just below nickel as a check and hunt a little lower than that if I was looking for coins.
For jewelry I rarely turn my disc much higher than lower foil where condiment packages come in...if that.
I sometimes use all metal but lots if times use the disc way down in iron to hear the clearest deepest signals and thumb up to figure them out.
I never just set it and dig everything that beeps, never did.
It seems to be more accurate to thumb up past the fade out out point and then slowly back down to the fade in area.

Tesoros are fun, especially when you get a handle on the sounds and language and I assume this one will be no different.
Have fun!

YES! Still learning "Tejonese" and like you, I hunt with the disc as far down as I can stand for a site and "thumb up" a bit on those "hey what's that" signals.

What does 180ED mean, please?

 

[REVIER]

The Tejon is the only true 180ED unit still currently sold besides the Compadre which means hunting in Disc it accepts all targets just like all metal.
This can come in handy for finding micro jewelry and chains, all the Tesoros do a good job on this but kind of like a little extra sensitivity on the small stuff.
Coins and rings are no problem for any unit in this brand and the Tejon is supposed to be pretty deep...in good soil.
I would think the double disc would come in handy for hunting in iron or trash or just park hunting in general.

I use a Vaq and as you know I have pretty rough soil and I have a big DD coil but I also have a standard and small 5.75" concentric and they seem to work pretty well also.
As far as depth I don't recall the big DD getting a whole lot deeper around here but I might have not come across much deep in my time and most of the time spent with my Vaq was before I learned more about using it.

In heavy iron I do know the concentrics seem to work pretty good as far as separating targets...surprisingly.

As far as that double disc I would probably set it just below nickel as a check and hunt a little lower than that if I was looking for coins.
For jewelry I rarely turn my disc much higher than lower foil where condiment packages come in...if that.
I sometimes use all metal but lots if times use the disc way down in iron to hear the clearest deepest signals and thumb up to figure them out.
I never just set it and dig everything that beeps, never did.
It seems to be more accurate to thumb up past the fade out out point and then slowly back down to the fade in area.

Tesoros are fun, especially when you get a handle on the sounds and language and I assume this one will be no different.
Have fun!

YES! Still learning "Tejonese" and like you, I hunt with the disc as far down as I can stand for a site and "thumb up" a bit on those "hey what's that" signals.

What does 180ED mean, please?

Remember a little thing we used to have to buy for grade school math called a protractor?

Look at the measurements that go from 0-180 degrees.
0 would be the high end like silver coins, the other end is iron.
ED is short for expanded discrimination...a Tesoro term which means range of target acceptance.
180 ED is like hunting in all metal with a threshold without the threshold, silent search is that term.
I think all metal might be a bit deeper overall, disc on this thing has still got to get down there if my Vaq is any indication in comparison.
The Silver, Outlaw and a few other models have 120ED which means in disc all the way down the units are not picking up small iron like tiny nails and other nuisance trash we don't usually want anyway and you can only get signals on these in all metal.
120 is usually just fine and dandy for general hunting purposes.
The Vaq was supposed to be 180 but in reality it is more like 165 or so and I know this is true because there were things I just couldn't get using supertuning, high sense or anything else unless I switched to all metal.
After many years they finally changed their website description of the Vaq and Cibola which used to say 180ED.
Several detectors in their line used to have true 180 ED like the Eldorodo and maybe a few others, as far as I know only the Tejon and the Compadre have it in their current lineup.

There are a couple of reasons the Compadre is legendary its hyper sensitivity and its ability to easily find really tiny things.
The throwback circuitry is one and I believe this 180ED is another.
The Tejon has it but with much more power behind it so don't be surprised if one day you come across a small earring stud or hit the clasp on a thin chain that hits hard like a large coin and maybe deeper than you would tend to believe.
Of course coins and rings and most other regular size objects should be no problem.

 

[WV62]

WoW Revier, it doesn't get any better than that, I even understand.LOL

I got away from my wife for about an hour of hunting today, just had to get it out and try it. Nothing to really brag about on finds, I was running the primary disc just below nickels and the secondary disc just above zincs. Sensitivity was max and she was cracking and popping, but when it went over a target all that cracking and popping stopped and it would give me a clean tone. Also I had the VCO on for today. Kind of a funny I was swing along and went over a penny that I could see and nothing, I said hello there is one. I picked it up and it was a zinc.

I did find one real penny, and my best for the hour was a .22cal slug, and that little guy was down on the high side of 4".

The Tejon seems to really single out targets even with the stock 9x8 coil.

I may try to sale one or two of my F75 coils to get some cash to buy me a extra coil for the Tejon. If only one extra coil which one do you guys think would be best for a coin and jewelry hunter?

Ron in WV

 

[pinenut]

...I may try to sale one or two of my F75 coils to get some cash to buy me a extra coil for the Tejon. If only one extra coil which one do you guys think would be best for a coin and jewelry hunter?

Ron in WV

Either one of the 5.75 coils, depending on your soil conditions. I really like my 5.75 "widescan", but my soil conditions change every few feet. The small concentric should pinpoint better, but I haven't tried that one on my Tejon. My 5.75 widescan gets use on both my Tejon and Vaquero. I like the small coil because of all the trash where I've been searching. Smaller coil "sees" less trash (and viable targets) at one time, making it easier to find targets worth digging.

 

[WV62]

When I ask the coil question I was kind of thinking little widescan for the better target separation and I seem to be hunting in the trash a lot.

I don't have any problems with DD coils on my other detector so I would expect the same out of the Tejon with a widescan. So as soon as I recover from the detector buy I will start watching for one.

I was amazed at how good the target separation is with the stock 9x8 concentric. It seemed that I was hunting with only that small center hole in the middle of the coil and pinpointing was easy in disc mode. I only used all metal one time and that was trying to track that .22cal bullet, I had that little guy all over the place before I finally found it.

Ron in WV

 

[amberjack]

I had the 5.75 DD on mine when I had it bit of a coin wacker and silver rings surprisingly

AJ

 

[REVIER]

I like DD's but I prefer them on my Fishers with screens.
Because of the pop top problem, (and some of my trashy parks have a ton), there are ways to tell and avoid them using no screen Tesoros but it just takes a little longer so I opted for a 5.75" concentric instead...pretty much a non issue using this one.
Target separation in trash and heavy iron seems to be still excellent and I am happy I chose this coil and I enjoy using it immensely.

 

[WV62]

Anybody have any thoughts on running the NEL snake coil on the Tejon? Just seems like the right size for getting in around the trash.

Ron in WV

 

[amberjack]

I have one for the F19 its a good coil not very deep as to be expected and for me the little round fisher coil does better, how does that help you?? I am not sure but its all I have to share.

AJ

 

[WV62]

Amberjack, I also have a NEL snake for my F75 and your comment was right on the money with what I think about it on the F75. But didn't really help me much with a NEL snake on the Tejon, just way too different of a machine. Now it could be that the 5.75" round WS coil and the snake coil could be somewhat the same performance or one could be better than the other. I like the shape and size of the snake over the 5.75" round.

Ron in WV

 

[amberjack]

yes you are allowed to have a snake Ron I think that's probably what most of us want to hear isn't it so yes try it out let us know how it goes

AJ

 

[Monte]

I have been thinking of getting a new Tejon but I noticed they offer up 2 now, one with 9x8 and the other 11x8WS.

I personally owned three Tejón units and have used a few others that were brought to a seminar or other detector user gathering. If you think their features satisfy you, then get one to learn and master. Personally, this model had some features I liked, but overall it fell short of the type that proceeded it on TD. I have no logical or practical use for the dual Disc. controls, and prefer a model that has a dedicated, Threshold-based All Metal search mode and quickly accessible Discriminate mode.

I did like the VCO audio option, but wished it would have functioned in the silent-search motion-based Discriminate mode. I also wish I could have selected a preferred audio Tone for the Discriminate mode for my impaired hearing and still had a VCO audio choice for the Threshold-based All Metal mode. Therefore, I only kind of liked the variable Tone control design of the Tejón. Still, for some people, this is a desired model, and to its credit it does provide that well known and respected quick-response performance Tesoro models, are admired for.

The only real need is to pick the right search coil(s) for the uses it will be grabbed to hunt in. For me, with this model there are two primary-use search coils that I would have, the 8X9 Concentric and 6" Concentric [size=small](the one they named 5.75)[/size], because both will serve my needs for urban Coin & Jewelry Hunting in typical modern trash, as well as Relic Hunting older sites where I'm likely to encounter a higher percentage of iron-based targets that can often be very closely spaced.

The two different offerings are the very same Tejón with only a difference in rod color and the provided search coil.

I am pretty much a coin and inland jewelry hunter, so which would you guys think would be the best way to go.

For most of the average urban C&J Hunting the 8X9 Concentric will work just fine. Very ample coverage in open grassy parks and lawns, nice depth [size=small](if you have an OK performing Tejón, and I have had and used some wimpy specimens)[/size], and they give the better Discrimination and more consistent audio responses from opposing side-to-side sweeps that are a credit to the Concentric coil design. The overlapped Double-D coil design tends to fall short of that performance, and they also have more difficulty with a lot of ferrous-based junk than do the Concentric designed search coils.

Also, in my travels for decades of enjoying this great sport I have hunted in some very mellow ground mineralization, yet have encountered a wide-range of ground mineral challenges at times, too. Where I have mainly lived and hunt the most, however, I am confronted with some very challenging, higher iron content 'bad ground' and have had much better success with some coil designs than others. I own and use both types of coils, Concentric and DD, and the end=performance has been more dependent upon hos the detector was designed to work than simply the inner coil design I have mounted.

The smaller 6" Concentric coil, on most of the Tesoro models I have owned and used, has provided me superior in-the-field performance than has the same diameters DD coil. I think a 2-coil set-up would be the better way to go with this and most Tesoro models. On the Eldorado my most used coils were the 6" Concentric and 8X9 Concentric, in that order due to the dense trash or metal structures I hunted close to. With the various Bandido series models, or the Silver Sabre II or Silver Sabre µMAX or a few other preferred Tesoro models that share the 5-pin coils, the 6" Concentric in my primary-use coil, and for more open areas I like either the 8" or 8X9 Concentric.

I had a Tejon a couple of years ago and it had 9x8 coil and I was pretty happy with that.

So you kind of answered your own question. If you had a Tejón, and if you learned it well and were satisfied with the 8X9 Concentric coil for most of your C&J sites, then I'd suggest going that way and, if possible, just add a 6" Concentric coil for trashier places.

Monte