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T2 Upgrade Information

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jeff@middlesex

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Okay I better wade in here before things get to the urban legend, rumour stage to much.
There is an upgrade chip. It will be $49.00. It will move the nickel tone down from the hight tone to the mid tone and deal with the bottlecap issue.
I am a BH Distributor/Dealer here in Canada so deal directly with the factory so the facts are first hand. BH will be making an announcement hopefully today about the procedure for the upgrade if you feel you need one. The reason for the cost is the machine works as specified when sold and this is not a fault issue. Therefore if you want an newer software version then you have to pay. Simple as that. Personally I think this is a bargain for a revision and a rare move for a metal detector manufactuer by making this affordable and by choice and still having a great performing machine even without the upgrade.
I will have more later once it becomes available. Calling the factory will not get you anywhere but only slow down the process of getting the correct information to the right people quickly, which are you guys and girls.
Stay tuned, I'm on it.
Jeff
Middlesex Detector Sales(canada)
 
Jeff, just out of curiosity more than anything else since I am ok with both the nickle and bottle caps now, how does the upgrade take care of the bottle cap issue? Are we saying now that when the unit picks up on a bottle cap it will throw it into the mid-tone range vice the high-tone? I'm not a techy so I am trying to figure out how it will distinguish between a bottle cap that has a value of say 82-89 from a penny, dime or quarter? Help me understand. Thanks!
 
Pine I don't know but hopefully later we will have an answer. I think the real solution would be to have the cap break up in tone and not lock into any partcular area on the screen like other trash. That would be the best solution. But I don't know if that is it at this point. As it was explained to me a little yesterday it has to do with the configuration of the coil in it being a "DD", that causes the bottlecap reading the way it is now.
Will let you know.
 
Appreciate the info. I was really getting confused as stated below. I agree, $ 49 is a whole lot better than have to buy a completely new machine. Also, as you stated the T-2 works great as is, but always looking for performance edge.

The reason I wanted to go ahead and get this done is because tax season ends in a couple of weeks and I want to hit the ground digging.

Don
 
Jeff,

Do you know how they're going to get the word out? Do you have to rely solely on the distributor who you bought it from or will they do a mailing directly to us owners? They have my information as I mailed in my warranty info upon purchase.

Thanks,

David
 
Through your dealer or distributor is the correct way to go. Don't forget this is not a critical update but a reversion of software. Not like a recall on your car for a safety issue, but available if you want it.
Since this is the only T2 forum you will probably here it here first, then through the dealer. Don't forget when it comes to anything in regards to new machines, price changes, etc. Even the dealers find out first on the internet before they here is from the factory. Thats just the way it works.
 
Will the machine have to go back to the US to have this done or can we buy the chip and have it done here in Canada?

My machine works fine, and now I can tell most older bottlecaps..the rusty ones..but those Miller Lite caps and Steelers are much newer and do trick me sometimes...as I don't hunt clad, I am not really worried about it, but if it makes it better I say go for it...however I don't want to be out of a machine this time of year.

Dean
 
Dean I am going to hold off till next winter for mine. If you or any other Canadian customers want to have this done and have bought your T2 from me. I will cover the cost of the upgrade and provide a T2 to use while yours is getting the upgrade as it will have to go back to the factory and will be gone for a couple of weeks since we are in Canada.
 
Thats more than I could ask for!!!..However as mine seams to work well I think I will wait until the snows come again.

Thank you for your great service!!!!!!
I have never met anyone else thats stands behind "his" product as you do!!!~

Dean
 
But I am interested in the bottle cap thing if it moves the caps down a tone or something so I don't have to look at or watch the meter to id them from high coins.

If it means giving up the nickel high tone to get a better cap id.....I'll have to dwell on that some more. I'm not sure I'm willing to go that route. :unsure:

I can always hunt in my cap spots with my Golden, but I don't have a high tone nickel machine and I like it. :unsure:

Going to be a dilemma for me deciding what to do :unsure:

HH

Mike
 
I'll live with the nickels in high tone if the RUSTED bottle caps thing works. I believe I have them whipped though would like to see how they plan on fixing it other than changing the tone. Still don't understand the relationship enough to comment. Hey, I'm happy with the unit the way it is and it and I are finally talking to one another where we can actually communicate. The less than 3in depth indication accuracy thing is the one that I am keeping an eye on, but again it's nothing to be alarmed about. Just something I observed on my unit. Not to say it is doing the same on others units. :)
 
[quote Mike Hillis]
If it means giving up the nickel high tone to get a better cap id.....I'll have to dwell on that some more. I'm not sure I'm willing to go that route. :unsure:

Mike[/quote]

My thoughts exactly. I like being able to run at high disk and still find nickels.

EC
 
[quote pineapple]I'll live with the nickels in high tone if the RUSTED bottle caps thing works. I believe I have them whipped ...[/quote]

I'm sure you discussed this before but I can't find it. Can you give me a link to your post about how you handle the bottle cap problem?

Thanks,
EC
 
Here is what the VP of Sales & Marketing Tim Mallory sent in response to my questions about the T-2 version 6.

Below this first letter is one dealing with the upgrade.

Mr. Bill



To Whom It May Concern:

In answer to the recent issues regarding T2 version 6; we decided, because we are constantly in process of making better our machines, because we are very proud of our newest edition of fine metal detection devices, and because we were intrigued by the challenge; we made an improvement to the discerning of steel bottle caps in the T2.

In all respects version 5 is a top notch, high end, deep discriminating metal detector and in no way is defective. The improvement we made is minor and has little to do with the operation of the device other than adding some slight discrimination of steel bottle caps.

Thanks
Tim


Tim Mallory
VP Sales and Marketing
tmallory@frsttx.com


Maggie will be posting the notice on the forum this afternoon regarding the changes on the T2. As the letter I sent you this morning said, the enhancements don
 
I use the Fe bar as my primary indicator. Every time I pass over a rusted bottle cap the Fe bar will spike up about two to three bars depending on the size of the cap. I was told there was no relationship, but I can tell you that it will do it every time.;) I also watch my VDI since you will also notice a bounce in numeric spread unlike the solid signal you'll get with the coins. On a cap that isn't rusted you won't see the spike though you will notice the predominate bounce easily enough. The bounce too will almost always be to the low side of the spread. I have basically came to a single digit that I can look for in most coins thus when passing over them four or five times if I see that single digit at least three times out of five passes, it's a 95% guarantee it's what it said it was (i.e, penny, dime, quarter). Haven't got the halves and dollars down that well yet. Not enough around to get a good fix on them. :(

The T2 has shown me one thing...you can sure trust what it is telling you if you use all of it's indicators. I haven't found where any single tone setting will tell me if it's a cap or a rusted cap yet, but can tell you the Fe is a sure fire indicator in my book.
 
And on another site that I better not mention...I was talking to this tec and he told me all about the the Hot New Revs for the T2/ T3 major....hehehe yep! You guessed it.
They are planning on moving nickle tones to a lower Freq. Then the Bottle Cap issue has a great fix.
Every time you pass the coil over a cap for more than 3 passes the detector will have a hand come out of the screen and smack you right in the face hehehehhhehehehee

No not really we'll have to wait and see. But the Tek T2 is a great machine ..I miss it and hope it gets back home really soon!

KCK
 
Thanks Jeff for the update,

I may be wrong but I would suspect if the bottlecap issue is corrected then the separation would not be as good in the iron trashy areas when relic hunting? Because the T-2 allows the bottlecap to bleed through also allows the iron masked signal to come in stronger between the iron.

I may be wrong but it does make sense, So I'm going to pass on the upgrade and leave the T-2 with the current software version which is good enough. Now, if I was a coin hunter then the upgrade would look more appealing but for relic hunting why change?

Paaul (Ca)
 
Thank you Mr. Bill for the message from Tim Mallory,

I feel depending on the user the upgrade will not be necessary, I wonder if we can replace the chip ourselves and convert our T-2 back to stock if so some reason we decide to change back to the stock version.

Thanks again, Paul
 
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