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Sunray FZ1 probe

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Anyone using the Sunray probe on their CZ? I'm looking to upgrade from my old Bullseye. Any opinions?
 
I've got one coming in the next few days. After I use it, I'll report back.

Dave
 
Have used the like Sunray probe for Minelab and Whites units. For one thing it will double or triple you sensitivity range depending on how machine is set up from your present probe No batteries and works in disc. or all metal. Arguably he best line of probes around. A bit pricey, but actually very light and attaches to unit nicely for those that use probes a winner.. :lol
 
I really liked mine, it would hit a coin at 3-4" while attached to my CZ70 with sensativity at 4.It was real handy having it attached to the unit and you would heer the different tones of the probe which are the same tones as the machine so your used to the tones.

Unfortunately I'm selling my FZ1 to help finance my new CZ3d. But I will eventually get another one, since now all i own will be CZ's. I have a CZ5, CZ70pro & now a CZ3d.Then eventually I will work on getting my C$ back.I guess I'm all Fisher at heart.


Take care & if you get a FZ1,I think you will like it.
Mike
 
Mike, send me an e-mail if you haven't sold your FZ1 yet.
 
Mike, you've got alot of CZ's. Do you feel the subtle differences "IMO" justify having more than one CZ? Well, obviously you do. What are your thoughts on all these CZ's? I'm somewhat in the same boat with my 70 and 3D. I'm probably going to part with my 3D, I'll miss it but I feel it differs only slightly from my 70 in its abilities.
I guess I'm just freeing up a space in my stable for another machine that is a whole different animal.
 
Take the CZ5 for instance, its one of the best coin machines ever made. My wife usually uses the CZ5 when she goes out with me. I usually use the CZ70. Now the 70 in my opinion is an awsome machine, BUT, it doesn't seem to be a quick as the CZ5, but they are both very close. I think the 70 might be an inch or two deeper here in central Florida at least in my test garden anyway.

I actually preferred another new CZ5, but those are scarce as hens teeth to find, so I opted to order a new CZ3d, mainly because I want to see the difference between the CZ5 & 3d. I went to a demonstration on the CZ3d by Nasa Tom a few weeks ago and was very impressed so I wanted to try it out to see for myself. If its as good as the CZ5 or CZ70, then I will be happy, if not then I will be passing it along and going back to the Coinstrike.

I was mainly only looking for a backup machine to my CZ70 & CZ5. I'm a Fisher guy at heart. Now if you want a different animal type of detector & a challenge, then I would highly recommend the Coinstrike, but be willing to invest about 40 or so hours in the learning curve, but once you get the hang of it, you will really like the machine.

If you want to get rid of your CZ3d, I bet if you post it for trade for a Coinstrike, you will have all kinds of offers. I posted my Cortes trade and got like two Coinstrike offers, but I opted to go with the 3d.

Good luck,
Mike
 
I've been looking at the Detector Pro Uniprobes - the pocket model and the headphone model. Though it's pricier, I like the idea of the headphone probe. Now that the Sunray is available for CZ's (I own a CZ7a Pro), I'm wondering whether it would be preferable. Money aside, which is the better probe?

Thanks,

c.
 
I own the UniProbe and I love it... it really saves me time. The biggest drawback is there's no discrimation. With the FZ1 it's tied directly into the detectors discrimation circuits like a coil and with the probe you can tell if the probe is swinging over iron or silver. But, be forewarned that is a double edged sword to an extent. If the FZ1 detects something you have notched out it won't make a peep. My buddy has that problem with his X-1 (Explorer FZ1 probe)... he has iron notched out and gets a hit that happens to be a deep nail. He can swing that X-1 over the iron and it won't make a sound. It's doing what it's designed to do. If you hunt like I do and don't notch anything then it won't be a 'problem' for you. I use the UniProbe mainly because I use several detectors from different manufacters. Otherwise I might own a Sun Ray probe just because of the shear cost of a UniProbe. Although, the cost was well worth it to me to have a versital probe.

-Bill
 
Mike,

I was wondering what you seen at NASA Tom's demo that got your attention? I have a 3D and it's definitely got some great depth... that's coming from an Explorer user too... :)

-Bill
 
doing his demonstration with the different coins like V & Buffulo nics and them being thrown into a higher tone rather then the low tone on the CZ5, which would make me want to dig it more then a low tone. Same thing with the gold rings, it throws most gold into a higher tone which would make you want to dig them more then if they were in a low tone.

I've owned BH's, a couple of Tesoros, a whites or two, about 5 or 6 Fishers and haven't found but one or two small gold items. So I figure maybe this will help increase my odds a little. But realistically, It might just be the luck of the draw or being at the right place at the wrong time or wrong place at the right time.

I'm not very superstitious, but I do believe there are lucky people in the world, and I aint one of them, but no matter what machine or the cost of the machine you use, it might enhance your odds a litle, but it can't make up for the luck that someone doesn't have.

When at the Daytona Shootout, a fellow won two detectors from a drawing, both of his numbers were pulled at random, one right after the other. This might not have seems all that amazing, but then when we were told by the event coordinator that the lucky guy's vehicle had been burglarized and his two detectors were stolen. So, was this just his good fortune or devine intervention? I guess it could go either way, but I believe more in his good luck.

So I figure eventhough I'm not a lucky sort, I will hedge my bet and try this new dream machine that I've heard so much about.Now I got all three CZ's, but miss my Coinstrike go figure.

HH,
Mike
 
Mike,

What size rings come in with the high tone? Most of the smaller rings I find are solid foil hits and the bigger ones may hit relic/square tab. Orientaton of the rings also make a big difference. Turn a thin gold ring so its at an acute angle to the coil and well, everything goes out the window. Thats one of the reasons I switched to the 1270 for wading instead of the CZ's.

HH Tom
 
pretty good size rings. The ring will still read foil or pulltab on the display, but they will be brought up into an higher tone then the usual low tone. The same thing applies to the buff and older nickels & coins. Or at least thats what Nasa Tom was says. But I got a CZ5 & CZ70, also the CZ3d arrived yesterday afternoon, so I will run a few tests and see if there are any changes between the 3. I know the CZ5 & CZ70 are pretty much identical when it comes to gold rings and such, but I'm not sure about the 3d yet.

 
Not really a double edged sword Bill. If you have notched out a target and want to check the hole with the FZ-1 for any additional targets, simply push the pinpoint button, scan the hole with the probe, and the VCO will catch anything in the hole that you notched out. Very simple and only takes a second.

Ralph (Sun Ray)
 
Man's 10K, size 12 1/2, 10g ring. At first, I was getting mid-tone hits on it, but couldn't pinpoint it very well. I finally realized that it was just off the edge of my coil. When I got it properly pinpointed, and recovered it, this ring gave me solid Zinc Hits on my CZ-20.

HH from Allen in MI
 
Bill:

Thanks for your reply. I agree, $350 for the Uniprobe (w/headphones) is pricey. I've been doing okay with a far less expensive handheld probe that either vibrates or emits a tone when it gets near metal, but its maximum effective range is under an inch. I like the idea of a probe that will trigger when it's within 2-3 inches (or more) of a target, which is why I'm exploring an upgrade.

I have both a CZ-7a Pro and a Coinstrike, but I've been using the latter a lot more lately - and I don't believe Sunray makes one for it...yet.

Anyhow, I haven't seen any used Uniprobes on eBay, so it's probably safe to assume that folks who own them like them enough to hang on to them.

Thanks again for your post!

c.
 
About the display and tone not agreeing, they should always match even on the 3D. Rings are bassically easy targets for most machines, its when they are deep, on an angle or mixed with iron when the trouble starts. I once recovered a large 18K signet type ring with a CZ5 while wading that read iron/foil and did not repeat on every sweep. It took probably 5 minutes to scoop it out because signal kept disappearing as the sand refilled and rearranged it in the hole. In the air it bounced tab/zinc!

HH Tom
 
for wading. If you can crank the sens up to 8 or so they see stuff way off the edge of the coil in the water. I found many fresh dropped rings that way when I used the CZ. That's in freshwater, not sure how they do in salt in that regard.

HH Tom
 
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