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still digging a ton of trash compared to finds...

I went out with my custom program. It worked great with a big tornado coil on. If I switched to open screen on a target it sometimes could not hear the target. However, when I switched back to my custom program it could hear it. If U want to give my program a try let me know with a PM and I will send the pattern to u.
 
nalc472 said:
I went out with my custom program. It worked great with a big tornado coil on. If I switched to open screen on a target it sometimes could not hear the target. However, when I switched back to my custom program it could hear it. If U want to give my program a try let me know with a PM and I will send the pattern to u.

Folks here is where the Discrimination of Etrac kicks in. Using Trash Density High, Etrac goes to the Highest accepted number of the target. Running those Open Screens sometimes hurts you.
 
Even in open fields I seem to get better results running a pattern that discriminates out most of the junk. Did not dig one Pull tab. Did dig a couple screw caps and Cans sitting flat up. Attached is the 3 finds in the park and the pattern used. One is a1964 dime, 191? wheat and a small guilded button.
 
The guys that want to chase every iffy signal, that dig every high tone no matter what the FE number is, will always dig more nails. That's why this high end detector has discrimination... Hope you all figure this out.
Gary from Oregon
 
I run fast on,auto,andys pattern and goesforever settings..I have yet to dig a nail,when I see that cursor drop down just once,I'm gone.Could I be passing up coins?i don't know.But I do know when that cursor don't fall in the right hand corner at all,it's always a coin.
 
masterjedi said:
I run fast off and deep on all of the time and manual 30. I hardly ever dig a nail so this post confuses me? I never run an open screen. Always have my FE set at the 30 line on any screen. Anything with a FE of 25+ is most always a bad target. So if I find a target with a high tone I just watch my FE number. If it stays 25+ I will not dig it. If it is 25+ but at any angle bounces up to say 10-19 range then back to 25+ then back up again I always dig it. If you continue to dig by sound with 25+ FE numbers you will continue digging nails. That's why it has discrimination. Use it...
Hope this helps.
Gary from Oregon

I don't understand your post. You aren't digging hardly any nails, but you always dig a FE signal that bounces from 25+ up to 10-19? With sens at 30 all the time? So any bouncing signal that hits in the sweet spot a couple of times with sens at 30, you are digging? But you hardly get any nails?

Around here those bouncing signals you describe and say that you are always digging, can be nail heads.
 
kt said:
masterjedi said:
I run fast off and deep on all of the time and manual 30. I hardly ever dig a nail so this post confuses me? I never run an open screen. Always have my FE set at the 30 line on any screen. Anything with a FE of 25+ is most always a bad target. So if I find a target with a high tone I just watch my FE number. If it stays 25+ I will not dig it. If it is 25+ but at any angle bounces up to say 10-19 range then back to 25+ then back up again I always dig it. If you continue to dig by sound with 25+ FE numbers you will continue digging nails. That's why it has discrimination. Use it...
Hope this helps.
Gary from Oregon

I don't understand your post. You aren't digging hardly any nails, but you always dig a FE signal that bounces from 25+ up to 10-19? With sens at 30 all the time? So any bouncing signal that hits in the sweet spot a couple of times with sens at 30, you are digging? But you hardly get any nails?

Around here those bouncing signals you describe and say that you are always digging, can be nail heads.

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My post is easy to understand. Its spot on. You are correct. I dig hardly ever a nail...I haven't found any nail heads yet. I have been digging since 1977 so this is not my 1st rodeo. Dig all of the iffy signals that are 25+ and you will dig lots of nails... Its that simple.
Gary from Oregon
 
masterjedi said:
My post is easy to understand. Its spot on. You are correct. I dig hardly ever a nail...I haven't found any nail heads yet. I have been digging since 1977 so this is not my 1st rodeo. Dig all of the iffy signals that are 25+ and you will dig lots of nails... Its that simple.
Gary from Oregon

Ok. So, for example, you get the following report. 35-42, 34-49, 27-44, 35-50. Bad signal on that target, no doubt. You turn 90 degrees. 35-49, 27-47, 19-44, 35-44, 12-42.

If I understand you correctly, you would always dig that, because on turning 90 degrees, you got two hits in the sweet spot.

And that kind of report has never been a nail when dug? I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, I'm trying to understand what iffy signals you dig versus not dig. It may be clear to everyone else but it isn't to me.
 
kt said:
masterjedi said:
My post is easy to understand. Its spot on. You are correct. I dig hardly ever a nail...I haven't found any nail heads yet. I have been digging since 1977 so this is not my 1st rodeo. Dig all of the iffy signals that are 25+ and you will dig lots of nails... Its that simple.
Gary from Oregon

Ok. So, for example, you get the following report. 35-42, 34-49, 27-44, 35-50. Bad signal on that target, no doubt. You turn 90 degrees. 35-49, 27-47, 19-44, 35-44, 12-42.

If I understand you correctly, you would always dig that, because on turning 90 degrees, you got two hits in the sweet spot.

And that kind of report has never been a nail when dug? I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, I'm trying to understand what iffy signals you dig versus not dig. It may be clear to everyone else but it isn't to me.
If I ran into this target giving those numbers, and after punching in a open screen quick mask showing 34 or 35-44 ......I would switch back to detect and move right on and never look back !!!
 
I'd never dig those kinds of numbers either. But for some reason I was reading the post as if you were digging any and every thing that hit a couple of good numbers, but not getting nails. Thought you had the magic formula or something. My bad.
 
Update what ive noticed the last couple days...i paid very close attention to just about all the conditions. a few days a week ago or so we had rain which obviously soaked the ground. in that time i was detecting and even prior to that the ground being damp from melting snow an rain. Well when i was out using the Etrac during that time, thats when i got all the false highs on nails an small junks of rusted iron etc... i dug a lot of nails. I am fairly new to the Etrac, but ive used explorers for awhile, altho similar still very different. Anyway just yesterday i went out, after we had a few warm sunny days in the high 60's 70's even high yesterday of 83. Im assuming that this obviously dried the soil a bit. I noticed i didnt get nowhere near the falsing on nails/iron as i did when ground was wet. If i did it was just a real quick high chirp, nothing enough to really catch my attention. id still investigate it to be sure tho and 1 of 2 things happend. 1 i never got the chirp again or 2 id get the chirp but switch to the quick mask an sure enough 35-49,31-44 ect.. NAIL! so id move on. My point being is i acquired the Etrac and used it and trying to learn it while the ground was very wet obviously creating a more harsh halo effect causing me to get all the false highs on the nails/iron. Yesterday was a dream, etrac ran silent with faint humm would get a few quick chirps, which i knew was a nail, recovered quick from any an all nulls, Coins really stood out and basically were very repeatable an clear even in the iron. i ran and tried all modes ttf, multi conduct, even 4 tone ferrous all sounded of clear and quick mask didnt lie. it would at times jump into high 20's 30's on the ferrous but more so stayed low to mid teens on the ferrous scale. i did pull nails from same hole as coins on most as well. To sum it up i didnt find any old coins besides a few wheats but i came home with 32 coins total and only 5 nails that fooled me compared to before at 5lbs of nails and maybe 10 coins. So i think my problem was the ground conditions at the time was my problem. Im still going to dig nails at times mainly because sometimes i will get the silver numbers mixed with the iron and switch to QM and get the same result but with numbers that will hit high 30's but not stay. i have found that to be either a very small nail or a thick chunk of small rusted iron, even a coin in with a big nail or multiple nails and last a coin sitting on edge. so some of those nasty signals you do want to dig. I feel a bit better now that i realized what may be happening as well as a few things clicked in my head to help determine whats lies beneath! sorry for being so long but thanks for reading!
 
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