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Sovereign and Excal battery information 101

Warning: There is still much debate among many on the proper care and feeding of rechargeables, so it's up to you to take proper precautions when charging and using batteries, and you should educate yourself on the net as to just who and what you believe. Regardless of what type of rechargeable you use, always educate yourself as much as possible and charge and store your batteries in a fire proof location. I prefer to store mine in a metal box (lined inside to lesson any chance of a short) as well as to charge them in the middle of a cement floor where I can keep an eye on them. Never assume handling and use of any battery is completely safe.

This will probably be the last "how to" thread link I put in this thread, as it's already loaded with enough stuff that you probably NEVER wanted to know about batteries and chargers already. :biggrin: But, I feel this one is worth adding.

It contains good (but short for me) information about using rechargeables in detectors, low self discharge nimhs for long term storage between detector use, lipos, etc. One myth that seems to always crop up is about loss of performance due to a lower starting voltage. That's not the case due to voltage regulators that make it a non-issue, but if you still choose to believe that then the fact is high capacity nimhs have a more "flat" line in graphed voltage (they maintain a more constant voltage better over discharge) as they discharge, so there comes a time when a non-rechargeable will have a lower voltage during much of the discharge cycle compared to the nimh (or a nicad for that matter). But as said that's a non-issue anyway due to voltage regulators in modern detectors. Another common belief is that nimhs don't provide as long of run times as non-rechargeables. In fact nimhs can provide up to 4 times the run time in some applications. A lot of the "they have short run times" beliefs out there stem from the early days of rechargeables when they didn't have much in way of capacity.

More details and other info in this thread, and it pretty much gets right to the point for once and isn't a novel. More like a short story. :biggrin:

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1748161
 
Hope this kills the last few questions about the stock chargers, batteries, using nimhs, and so on that always seem to pop up like flies and buzz around the Sovereign forum...:biggrin:

GT pack info (run time and charging times and how long of life can I expect from the pack), the
 
Sorry, ran out of time to edit the above message, but rather than post it here and muck up the sticky more, I'll just post a separate thread and link to it. This thread delves more into re-building or replacing packs, as for one the prior Sovereign models to the Elite no longer have rechargeable packs for sale that I'm aware of, but this info is also of interest to Excal or Elite/GT guys who have a bad pack, or wish to have one with more run time built (and still be lighter than the stock cells were too) or make one themselves...

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1751421
 
In searching for some other battery related info, I ran across this short but excellent thread where Kered talks about charging his stock packs faster on the Sovereign XS2, Excalibur, GT, and Etrac. Along with some talk from him about being able to charge a nimh Excalibur pack on the old stock nicad wall
 
Why are the alkaline pods not rated to the same depth as the rechargeable pods when they are identical? And other Excal battery related info on replacing the rechargeable pack with a higher capacity one when it goes bad. Plus fixing a cracked pod.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1666598,1718788#msg-1718788

Making an Excalibur battery pod replacement gasket and other ideas...

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1614183,1614183#msg-1614183

End caps for pods and batteries and other info...

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1583126,page=1

Some more info on end caps and making them as well as for battery pods...

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1673549,page=1

Modding newer Excal battery pods for use with the old Sword model...

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?21,1713747,page=1
 
Just wrote this in the modifications forum. About as concise as I can be in walking people through lipo conversions. Simple mod and with pictures to show just how small/light my lipo in my GT alkaline holder is. It would probably fit in the Excalibur battery pod. I also included pics of the simple tiny plug installation and a couple of minor mods to the alkaline holder. Very minor stuff and you can easily move the tiny male JST plug out of the way and run 8AAs in the holder again if you ever wanted to do that, but why? :shrug::biggrin: Lipos have so many more perks over non-rechargeables or nimhs or nicads too, along with over many other battery types. All gone over in this thread and it's a short and to the point (for me). :biggrin:

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?22,1762234,1762234#msg-1762234

That should just about do it for me in terms of lipo info. Plenty of other links in this sticky on me and Kered doing the conversion and more threads can be searched for in this forum or the Modifications forum. I just wanted to post one more link with a new thread that gets right down to A thru Z and you're done easily, fast, dirt cheap, and simple. I wanted it to be as direct as possible and take you right through the whole thing with no fuss or muss because I know I hadn't done that in the past. This thread is the speed readers guide to lipos. :biggrin: Speaking of cheap, check out the lipo below I'm using. Only about $7 so I bought two so I have a back up, and much easier to carry as a spare on a hunt then the rechargeable pack or a bunch of AAs.
 
The recharger mod on my sov has left me stumped on how to recharge it... Wish I could just pop fresh batteries in there!
 
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