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Sovereign AM/DISC

Hey Tony

Thank you for the posts and info on the Amp. If anyone is looking for more info on it i found a web site on "Shaun's amp" by doing a search on "Minelab Sovereign Amplifier" and found it at a sight called "Inside Media", Which is probably Shaun's new site. (Not sure on the rules about posting a direct link to the site so you can do the search and find it for yourself).

Tony, do you only turn the amp on when you get those "null zones"? Or do you have it on all the time while hunting? I had asked about those "null zones" or dead zones in a previous thread, and assumed that it was iron nulling it out. Maybe it was something deeper that the Amp would have brought in. It is sad that the 12 X 15 SEF will not work with it. I would assume you got more depth with the stock 10"coil and the Amp, rather than the SEF 12 x 15? Do you still have the 12 x 15? Could you, did you do a depth comparison test between the amp and the 12 x 15? Couldn't you just dig 2 - 3" down over the "null" zones to see if the null zone becomes a viable target? I wonder if running a higher than designed voltage through the coil will eventually damage it?

I just bought a 12 x 15 SEF. It seems to work great, but is even MORE heavy than the already heavy stock 10"er! I am not sure it would work well here in the Central California coastal zone as there is quite a bit of mineralization in the wet sand. (My Whites reads "foil" all the time in the wet sand and can not use it there, hence, the GT). Do you REALLY like to dig those 12" to 15" holes at the beach?:goodnight: Have they paid off, or is it mostly just more coins? With my 12 X 15 I find I am digging DEEPER for those wonderful Penny's that my GT loves to hit so hard on!!! (Also finding MANY fishing weights that are disguised as that GOLD RING!) I think I need a new sand scoop that is more like a shovel rather than a basket at the end of a stick that you PULL towards you to dig with! Between the extra weight of the 12 x 15, and the digging those 12"+ holes in the wet sand, I am sore all over!

Anyone try "Shaun's amp" on the California coast?

Sorry, too much morning coffee!:rolleyes:


Beachnut
 
Beachnut said:
Hey Tony

Thank you for the posts and info on the Amp. If anyone is looking for more info on it i found a web site on "Shaun's amp" by doing a search on "Minelab Sovereign Amplifier" and found it at a sight called "Inside Media", Which is probably Shaun's new site. (Not sure on the rules about posting a direct link to the site so you can do the search and find it for yourself).

Tony, do you only turn the amp on when you get those "null zones"? Or do you have it on all the time while hunting? I had asked about those "null zones" or dead zones in a previous thread, and assumed that it was iron nulling it out. Maybe it was something deeper that the Amp would have brought in. It is sad that the 12 X 15 SEF will not work with it. I would assume you got more depth with the stock 10"coil and the Amp, rather than the SEF 12 x 15? Do you still have the 12 x 15? Could you, did you do a depth comparison test between the amp and the 12 x 15? Couldn't you just dig 2 - 3" down over the "null" zones to see if the null zone becomes a viable target? I wonder if running a higher than designed voltage through the coil will eventually damage it?

I just bought a 12 x 15 SEF. It seems to work great, but is even MORE heavy than the already heavy stock 10"er! I am not sure it would work well here in the Central California coastal zone as there is quite a bit of mineralization in the wet sand. (My Whites reads "foil" all the time in the wet sand and can not use it there, hence, the GT). Do you REALLY like to dig those 12" to 15" holes at the beach?:goodnight: Have they paid off, or is it mostly just more coins? With my 12 X 15 I find I am digging DEEPER for those wonderful Penny's that my GT loves to hit so hard on!!! (Also finding MANY fishing weights that are disguised as that GOLD RING!) I think I need a new sand scoop that is more like a shovel rather than a basket at the end of a stick that you PULL towards you to dig with! Between the extra weight of the 12 x 15, and the digging those 12"+ holes in the wet sand, I am sore all over!

Anyone try "Shaun's amp" on the California coast?

Sorry, too much morning coffee!:rolleyes:


Beachnut

G'day Beachnut,

When hunting on the beach, I run the Amp at about 90% power AND with the GT with the SENS at 10 o'clock...so this really is detecting deep !

I have checked soft good tones with the Amp only to have this tone turn to a NULL after switching the Amp off !!!

Not all nulls are iron when the object is at the edge of the detector's detection capability.
What do we do......like you said, just a quick scrape of a few inches of sand might just bring that "null" into the good tone territory.

The stock 10" coil with amp easily beat the SEF (as mentioned before not amped).

I did sell the SEF coil, which by itself was great. It just wasn't compatible with the Amp even at the lowest power setting.

I'm sure the stock 10" coil won't suffer any problems, such as, excess heating.
I have many hunting hours of Amp and 10" stock coil now......all is well.

As you have gathered by now, I am a depth junkie on the beach.

My Sov GT and Amp (both powered to high settings and in DISC mode) was beating my Minelab SD2200D on the beach by about an inch. I tried this on a few different gold rings as this is what I'm after. I'm getting a good 15" on an average gold wedding band. This is a very good result for gold rings.

Hope this info helps.....

Tony
 
I'm interested in hearing about the Shaun amp as I think (?) it's the only one that boosts the transmission signal coil, unlike the 2 or 3 others that simply boost in receive signal. Can't find him on ebay or at the link provided. I'd also like to hear about the other ones out there if anybody has compared them.
 
TerryinHawaii said:
Do you hunt with your coil in the water while using Shaun's amplifier? If so, how deep is the ocean water?

Terry

Aloha Terry,

There is some falsing when the coil is submerged by saltwater or if saltwater washes over the coil. This requires easing of the "throttle" by way of Amp power and/or detector sensitivity.

I guess a comparison can be made to running 10uS on a PI when venturing to the salt laden wet sand....and into the saltwater.

Personally, I don't want to dig holes in the ocean much more than 10".....I'll let the ocean do the work for me and let it remove the sand.

Some years ago, I buried an old junk stainless ring (attached by fishing line) at a measured 12" down into the sea bed. At the time, conditions were reasonably calm.
It took me about 15 minutes to finally dig the ring up...it was a really difficult process getting down that deep with the side walls constantly caving in.
The actual diameter of the hole when the ring finally came up was in the order of 2 feet across. This wasn't due to pinpointing problems or lack of target audio but the 20 or so scoops needed to widen the hole and get the target out !

I'm sure you have similar experiences with the Aquastar.....if the sea floor is really hardpack then the task becomes much easier but when it's that deep, loose, sugary stuff then......:rage::rage::rant::stretcher:

Who here has sworn loudly underwater......:ranting:

Nice to hear from you,

Tony.
 
While using the Aquastar, I usually stop digging at around 16 inches but I have dug gold rings at a measured 18 inches. But then they were large heavy gold rings in hard packed sand. If they ever come out with a machine that would indicate if the target could either a gold or platinum ring at 18 inches with a meter and be waterproof. I would buy it and not care what it cost. I am starting to get too old for digging deep trash.

Terry
 
"If they ever come out with a machine that would indicate if the target could either a gold or platinum ring at 18 inches with a meter and be waterproof. I would buy it and not care what it cost......"

You would also be in a long queue:biggrin:
 
TerryinHawaii said:
While using the Aquastar, I usually stop digging at around 16 inches but I have dug gold rings at a measured 18 inches. But then they were large heavy gold rings in hard packed sand. If they ever come out with a machine that would indicate if the target could either a gold or platinum ring at 18 inches with a meter and be waterproof. I would buy it and not care what it cost. I am starting to get too old for digging deep trash.

Terry

Terry,

How many Aquastars have you actually got now?

If you ever think about selling one....I'm only an email away.....:clsoedeyes:

Tony. :ausflag:
 
I am now leaning more to the Sunray 12" coil than the WOT for the Sovereign. While I still hear the WOT goes slightly deeper, I also hear the Sunray is even lighter than stock, pinpoints good, and handles trash better than the WOT. Seems I'd have more useful situations with the Sunray than the WOT. If I was primarily a beach hunter I'd proper opt for the WOT, but I hunt a lot of parks besides open low trash fields and woods.

Now I'm also wondering based on what have said about Shaun's amp that perhaps I'd be better getting the amp first, which I think I'll do. The next question would be what coils does it work well with. I hear it works with the WOT but not with the SEF coils. Does it work well with the Sunray 12" and if so how does it compare to the WOT depth wise with the WOT not using the amp but using it on the Sunray. Also, wondering if it would work well with a 5" coil and if it would decrease the trash seperation ability of a small coil due to the stronger signal being pumped into the ground?
 
Critterhunter said:
I am now leaning more to the Sunray 12" coil than the WOT for the Sovereign. While I still hear the WOT goes slightly deeper, I also hear the Sunray is even lighter than stock, pinpoints good, and handles trash better than the WOT. Seems I'd have more useful situations with the Sunray than the WOT. If I was primarily a beach hunter I'd proper opt for the WOT, but I hunt a lot of parks besides open low trash fields and woods.

Now I'm also wondering based on what have said about Shaun's amp that perhaps I'd be better getting the amp first, which I think I'll do. The next question would be what coils does it work well with. I hear it works with the WOT but not with the SEF coils. Does it work well with the Sunray 12" and if so how does it compare to the WOT depth wise with the WOT not using the amp but using it on the Sunray. Also, wondering if it would work well with a 5" coil and if it would decrease the trash seperation ability of a small coil due to the stronger signal being pumped into the ground?

The amp works great with the 10" Tornado coil.

The SEF 15"x12" falsed continually with the Amp.

This is all I know as far as these coils go.

I will try a WOT one day.....try before buy.

I'd like to hear from others who have the Amp...:biggrin:

Tony.
 
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