Some TTF help "newbie"

[Gonehunting]

Ok earlier in the post I asked about a video where a guy had his machine to hit a coin with a nail on it. The reason I asked that is because I wasn't hitting the dime that we are talking about. I have tried the ML coin program and the quickmask with 30 to 35 darkened out (thanks McDean) and I can hit the dime but it throws a weird number. Now it is a high tone but nothing I would dig cause of the numbers.
Now I have been running the settings u have given me and am learning quickly what to dig and am getting way greater results than the ML coin mode. I am slowing combing each yard in my neighborhood and starting to feel really comfortable with the 2TF mode. Btw I am running the threshold at 1. Lol I have learned to make sure my probe switch is in the coil mode. Had to back track twice.. Was getting signals but they were from my keys in my pocket. Felt like an idiot... Surely I'm not the only one that has done that... Anyway thanks again and will keep u posted..

 

[sugar]

you are doing exactly right you listen to each person see what makes you happy and then go for it everyone runs the etrac differently but in the end if you are getting good results that is surely everyones aim keep logging in that old memory bank what works for you i have to add say on your next hunt go out and just listen to what the etrac is telling you and dont look at the numbers at all as it will lock on to other bits and pieces if you get a high bleep go back find it if it sounds off two way dig and even if it is an iffy signal open the hole up to see if the signal gets better as it could be iffy cause its really deep i hunt in the uk and things might be different in the states but you could be in for a shock when you learn to talk etrac lol

 

[Gonehunting]

Lol I think language is "harder" to learn and more complex than the X70, but with what I'm finding, its well worth the lessons... Thanks for the help..

 

[Gaz]

...Glad your getting sorted with new setup GH.....remember.....TTF is just one way to hunt....there are others but Sug's and I love it!!!!!
As said before....TTF is really an audio programme, not a numbers programme. The screen will never update fast enough to catch up with the audio. As Sug's said, you need to look for the high tones.

To recap on my settings:

Open screen apart from FE01 CO01 - FE01 CO37 blacked out.......FE01 CO49 & CO50 blacked out. (This leaves a small window open for large silver, especially US Dollar!!)
2 tones
Ferrous sounds
Normal sounds
Fast ON.......removes filters and speeds things up.
Deep OFF.....removes even more filtering which slows audio and screen down.
Volume Gain 30......this increases the volume on deep targets and does what Deep On does but without slowing things down.
Sensitivity......either Auto+3 or manual....whatever you want.

Okay....the tones......what to dig???


High tone at 90 degree sweeps.....dig
Low tone at 90 degree sweeps.....ignore
High tone one way......low tone at 90 degree sweep......ignore.....iron! (Elongated iron will do this because of the way it interrupts the coil)
Mixed high AND low tone (warbly) both ways (90 degrees)......dig. (This is how this programme deals with target blending. Because this programme is fast....instead of blending the target, the ETrac is telling you there are mixed or multiple targets and gives you both of their tones. maybe a good target next to a bad target)

Gaz.

 

[sugar]

EXTRACTLY OH SORRY I MEAN EXACTLY LOL

 

[Goes4ever]

Ok earlier in the post I asked about a video where a guy had his machine to hit a coin with a nail on it. The reason I asked that is because I wasn't hitting the dime that we are talking about. I have tried the ML coin program and the quickmask with 30 to 35 darkened out (thanks McDean) and I can hit the dime but it throws a weird number. Now it is a high tone but nothing I would dig cause of the numbers.
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ok this is the main reason you dig ALL high tones if you are on an OLD site that holds potential for old coins, buttons, relics etc.......

if a nail is laying directly on top of a coin, you WILL get the high tone in TTF...........IF YOUR SWINGING SLOW ENOUGH....I can't stress this enough, swing too fast in TTF and you will miss these targets for sure. And yes the numbers will be off if iron is right on top of it. That is why you CANNOT TRUST numbers when hunting this method. I only disc 01-01 thru 01-30 out I had 4 indians last year come in at 01-31, so I am noy way gonna disc all the way to 37. And I do not disc out 49 and 50. I cannot remember the last 50 I even got when hunting in TTF. However I do remember last year I got a screaming 12-50 and it registered from two angles, I dug it and it was a merc dime and 2 nails in the hole. Once again, you cannot rely solely on numbers of you'll miss good targets period.

 

[sugar]

Ok earlier in the post I asked about a video where a guy had his machine to hit a coin with a nail on it. The reason I asked that is because I wasn't hitting the dime that we are talking about. I have tried the ML coin program and the quickmask with 30 to 35 darkened out (thanks McDean) and I can hit the dime but it throws a weird number. Now it is a high tone but nothing I would dig cause of the numbers.
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ok this is the main reason you dig ALL high tones if you are on an OLD site that holds potential for old coins, buttons, relics etc.......

if a nail is laying directly on top of a coin, you WILL get the high tone in TTF...........IF YOUR SWINGING SLOW ENOUGH....I can't stress this enough, swing too fast in TTF and you will miss these targets for sure. And yes the numbers will be off if iron is right on top of it. That is why you CANNOT TRUST numbers when hunting this method. I only disc 01-01 thru 01-30 out I had 4 indians last year come in at 01-31, so I am noy way gonna disc all the way to 37. And I do not disc out 49 and 50. I cannot remember the last 50 I even got when hunting in TTF. However I do remember last year I got a screaming 12-50 and it registered from two angles, I dug it and it was a merc dime and 2 nails in the hole. Once again, you cannot rely solely on numbers of you'll miss good targets period.

thanks for clarifying the finer points of hunting in the us i know they are a little different from ours certainly dont want to be missing the coins so that is what these forums are about it helps us all to get the best out of our machine i hope the weather is improving for you guys and that we can all start hunting again soooooon

 

[Gonehunting]

Woohoo finally hit it. I lowered my variability to 24, I read in Sabishe "Bible" too high a variability and the iron tends to false covering silver. I slowed way down past what I thought was Turtle and sure enough, high 15-46... . Man I can't believe I waited this long to get this machine...
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This is a week with the new detector. Learning this machine is teaching me a hole new facet... Can't wait to get off my block. lol
I can see why other brand users have nothing good to say about it. Lol Let em complain.

 

[sugar]

thanks for that i will lower mine today and see what difference it makes you never stop learning your photo looks like you have had a good week get those muscles built up who needs to go down the gym when you have an etrac ??????????????? LOL AWESOME MACHINE

 

[jbow]

Try using the "Relic Pattern" or raising the disc a little in QM. Both the manual and Andy's book are clear about the E-TRAC needing some disc in order to get the most from it's unmasking ability. It is programmed to ignore what is disc'ed and signal on what is accepted. If you are accepting everything (open screen) the iron may be overwhelming the dime. Play with the FE disc and I think you will hear the dime. Too much disc and you'll lose good signals, in bad ground, even on unmasked targets.

Julien

 

[Gaz]

...Hi Julien.....

I'm always up for learning more about the ETrac mate.
Can you explain why you think use some minimal discrimination unlocks more targets rather than an open screen???
This has intrigued me a little and I'm eager to know more. Do you think it's a software thing with the ETrac???

All the best,

Gaz.