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i've been using my new SE in an old farm field for the past few days. i also own two explorer 2's. i think im going to stick with my explorer 2. There is a good amount of iron in this field, but the SE seems to false like crazy. the exp 2 seems to be much more calm and level headed. so far i see no reason to switch from an exp 2 to an SE. as a matter of fact, my friend with his DFX swept over a target and swore it was silver. i swept over the same spot with the SE. got a messy, indiscernable signal. he dug... & it turned out to be a barber 1/2!! i hunt with no discrim. in ferrous tones. i've tried lowering the sens., with no luck. can anyone please offer any advice or should i just sell this thing b4 i break it into many pieces.
 
Icon jumping all over the place and a high pitched tone in the upper LEFT corner. Have you experianced that yet?
 
What are your setting? Just my opinion but the factory setting give just the problem you mentioned. I turn mine down and things smoothed right out.
 
Finally got mine out today for the first time. Please let me know your settings. Do you run fast on...deep on...etc. and all other settings. I just can't seem to get a very solid signal. I'm running AM... sensitivity at 20...gain at 7...ferrous sounds...variability at 7. I thought I DID have mine turned down from the factory settings...but I'm having some weird things happen too. Sometimes the cursor will show up in the top left side and still emit a high pitched sound even though im in ferrous??? I thought this wasn't even possible. How can I get a high pitched sound if I'm in ferrous and the cursor is clear on the left upper part of the smartfind screen.
I also laid down a mercury dime and a silver quarter. I ran the coil a few inches above them each and it didn't give me a very solid signal on either one of them.
 
Hello all, I am running AM, sens.25 auto, ferrous,digital window, and I have lots of iron in the dirt. I don't seem to have much trouble getting solid readouts. Also using deep mode. Found a standing liberty quarter at a small rest stop the other day. Solid signal at 00 29. Lots of bottle caps too. I like the SE and for me I would rather use the SE. My 2 cents. God Bless all.

John Tomlinson, CET
John's Detectors
 
John,I found that I get a steadier screen readout in deep mode.

I saw it posted once that this guy said that he ALWAYS used his Explorer in deep...
Never occured to him to have it set any other way,
he switches deep off when he selects fast.

Interestingly it says on page 54 of the SE manual;
if you select fast on and deep on that,

"Less accurate discrimination and Target ID;

amplified signals for small targets,

response time is similar to DEEP=OFF ~ FAST=OFF..."

( Amplified signals for small targets,) ~ ~ may suggest a good setting for gold chains and other small jewellry...

Useful info ???

Snowy
 
Hi Bryce...I took about three days of testing targets & playing with the settings before I felt confident enough to take it out to the park...I found that on MINE, just a few notches up on the sensitivity can make all the difference in the world & if you take a couple days learning how to adjust the settings & keep it stable you will be amazed at the way this detector responds...don't think that your first hour with it is an indication of what this detector will do...mine was acting the same way when I first assembled it & right away I could tell I needed to spend a couple days learning how to adjust the settings....Yes my first sweep of a merc. & it would only pick it up at about 3":shrug:now that same merc. starts air testing almost a foot away....Yesterday I dug my first silver quarter with it at about 10":super:...I know it was that deep because I dinged it with my little spade & noted the position on the handle...yes I know I need a pinpointer...I've found that in some places I can jack up the sensitivity full bore...& some places I gotta lower it...Right now I have the gain at 7 & haven't tried playing with that yet but SOON I will....Just relax & make a little test garden if you can, & take a couple days getting used to it....then after a hunt or two re-read the manual & hit the test garden again...You'll see that your first impression was way off the mark...Oh yeah.... I don't think anything is wrong with your detector...HH...TT
 
I don't think you're giving enough info to get a good answer to problems you're describing....IMHO....I am also new to the Exp... & had a lot of the same problems....Where are you when this is happening??? Sounds like you may be near electrical interferance or a radio transmitter...Underground power lines??? If you can, make sure you're in a clean metal free area with no interferance...Get the manual out & start going through the set up steps...The manual says that running fast on deep on may confuse the unit...make sure you just have one or the other on....Last week I was at a park & was going along & all of a sudden it starts giving off signals like crazy...I think, what to f#@k & tried to lower the sensitivity... It helped a little but still persisted...so I'm sitting there a few minutes & trying to figure this out & press noise cancle...That helped a little too...BUT not much...so I'm sitting there trying to figure it out & all of a sudden it stops...For about a minute...then it starts up again:shrug:I start looking around & notice a BIG antenna sticking up from a building...Fire Dispatch...Power lines will give you the same problem...:sick:
 
The only falseing I get is when I bump the coil or am getting Radio or electrical interferance...Could your friends DFX be part of the problem???
 
Hi Tom.
I did a little better this morning messing with settings. I've been trying all different combos that the "big dogs" post here and it did help some. Each persons ground is different too. What are each of the settings on the SE that you have adjusted?
 
I have an X-Terra set up with DD and 3kHz deep relic coil.
I also have an X5. I have posted and reposted the same info over and over in the past 24 hours.
I am not new to metal Detecting but I am new to the SE. And this machine is not responding like it should.
Watch for my new post tonight.
 
Well Bryce, being so new, I can't recall ALL I've tried...Right now I'm running in all metal, Iron mask on.."I think" to keep from nulling, Gain at 8, sensitivity as high as I can, Response normal, Volume Max, Tone---TH tone 5, variability 10, Limits 10, Sounds conduct,Recovery-Fast off Deep off....I have my test bed & do read the manual & do a little testing, but it's hard not to race out & try to pick up a few good pieces of silver...It's not hard to learn, just takes time...I'm as eager as anybody in wanting to rush out & get some good stuff, but I realize that it will take time in becoming proficient with this fine machine....a lot of the veterans here will see my settings & probably come close to having a coronary:rofl: but they have allowed me to pluck two pieces of silver out in the two weeks I've had it...actually the two pieces have come on the last two outings with it...I'm gonna try switching to ferrous sounds next & also try fast off deep on & vise versa in my test bed...then go out & see how I do...I always keep the manual with me in case I want to make a change because I'm still not familiar enough with it to feel comfortable without it...Oh yeah, I usually run the smartscreen but with just a press of the button you can check the digital...I think it was Snowy who last mention the importance of the tone, as relateing to target ID...once you start homeing in on the good ones you'll understand....What I find great about this detector is the full spectrum of options it has....However it can seem overwhelming at times for a new user...Like I said, it isn't hard, it just takes time to learn & I for one am more than happy I made the decision to go this route...HH...TT
 
Your not the only one that's not picking up a solid signal .I've talked to people that have both, and they went back to the EX2 for them same reason your talking about . Maybe they still have to work the "Bugs" out . I think I'll stick with the EX2 before I drop a Grand on the SE.
 
I was talking to Sandy at Minelab and have been experiencing some problems also. I haven't had a chance to try this but will tomorrow. Lower the gain to around 3, run the sens all the way up to 31 in manual and bring it down a few. Run a little higher threshold then you normally do and then three important steps---if you have a cell phone with you, turn it off. Two---If you have any time of cell towers near bye that you know of or airport within 10 miles, point the coil in the air the direction or the cell tower, etc. and hit noise cancel. When noise cancel is done, do the noise cancel as normal on the ground and see it this helps. And of course make sure the coil cover doesn't have dirt between it and the coil.
 
Hi Dennis...If you're having the same problem then it's obvious you have already dropped a grand on it....Some of these guys reporting problems are first time users, like myself...And yes if not for this forum, I would be having trouble too & would have swore that my detector was screwing up....TT
 
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