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Setting Sensitivty

I must have missed your post of all the finds you say you found, must have been lost in all in the string of post about the same thing you post over and over again. Seems like there is very few post of great finds like there was before as some wonder if we are to post finds or not as it seem like it is just test after test you do with some we agree with and some we like to say something so that are new to the Sovereigns don't get the wrong idea how they work and sell them because they don't work like us that find some deep coins and those in with iron.
It is rare i can max my sensitivity and also rare I have to go to auto or lower than 12 o'clock position, but it does happen in some places, but if you want the depth you have to put up with a little false signals and learn how to deal with it by EXPERIENCE not by reading about it and doing air test, or burying coins in the ground on either the Sovereign or Explorers/E-tracs. If my threshold is stable and not changing I know it is not working like it is meant to be, but don't want a solid null either so the sweep speed has to be slower so the coil can see everything close to the iron. Been to lot of different area in 3 different states and even did a little beach hunting in NJ with the Explorer with the worst ground has been around train station where the old clinker from the steam locomotive are and have used auto there, but know I will not get the deep targets as this is bad ground. Been it some tough ground with a lot of nails and it is close to a solid null, but slow the sweep speed down make a difference. Lot of thing like this we see by using it and learning it that you will never see in any test you do at home.

Been detecting since 1973 and using a Sovereign since 1996 and used to amaze many people plus myself at what the Sovereign can do once you use it, understand it and learn what it is telling you all by Experience in the Field, like I say you learn something new each time out with it detecting, learn nothing sitting in the closet.
Have a good one Critter and detect how you would like, but be careful what you post as some of us experiences users may question you if it is different than what we see in actual hunts, we got to give people actual facts from experience and sometimes those of us that know it well don't agree every time either as we may see it different as the way we hunt is different.

Good luck

Rick
 
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I had used a different detector before I got the Sov. I had the basic understanding of what a detector does and what the controls do.
It was obvious that the Sov was going to be different, so there would be only some similarities. So I made myself a plan . Every time out, I was going to check out different controls and methods. At first I was getting answers but was coming up with more questions than answers. Finally I was getting mostly answers and few new questions.
I checked out every target from a lot of angles and different rates and widths of sweep. I also played with the control(s) that I was testing that day. I listened to tones and sound patterns as I did this.
By the time I found this website I had the Sov pretty well figured out on my own. I heard about different things and tried them. Some were useful at times so I added them to my bag of tricks. There were some that were just plain bunk because I had already tried them and rejected them. I also used my Sov in all kinds of dirt at different locations and under a lot of different conditions. It does not take long to figure out that setting up and using the Sov just one way is not going to be practical. It can be very counterproductive under some circumstances.

I decided on this philosophy.....
Try everything that only costs you time, but do not blindly follow. Get the feel of sound and motion. Think on your feet and roll with the punches.

HH
 
Like you we learned the Sovereign by using it and trying different setting to see what it can do. I did a lot reading on the Sovereign too and all the post I read back then too from others, some good and some bad, but I was told then also that you learn more from doing and trying different settings then reading about them and trying to figure out what is the best way to use the detector. I really believe this with the Explorers more so as so many want to know the patterns to use, I feel everyone areas are different, so different setting as what works for one in one area will not and can not work in another, so you have to start off with the factory setting and learn what works the best for you and your area.

Good to see you post again as you too like a few others that have spent the time to get to know your Sovereigns have some valuable wisdom to share.
 
I have read this more than once and I usually don't get involved in debate but I just feel the need.I bought a sovereign xs2a pro when they first came out.I thought I'd screwed up but I got used to it.that's been over 10 years ago.I know my sovereign better than I know my wife.as far as sensitivity goes I never ever hunt in auto.if you do you will lose deep signals.the whole thing is,you can run it about as high as you want.I just about always am running above three quarters to max.BUT you have to slow down if there is a lot of iron.)You can find deep coins when the threshold is nulled.if you notice that when you stop your threshold comes back,then its just closely spaced iron.80 per cent of the places I hunt are like this.I do know that you will not detect deeper with a sovereign with the sens turned down.if it is on the fringe at max sens and you go to half sens then you are going to lose it or get a weeker signal.I've used about every detector made and I always come back to the sov because I've used one for over 10 years exclusively.a lot of people think that you can use it like an xlt but it just doesn't work that way.if there is a lot of iron/nulling. Just slow down a little.it has the effect of bringing back the threshold because you are giving the machine a chance to recover and also you won't be sacrificing any depth.and once again just because the machine is nulled,it will still detect coins at depth.anyway that's my 2 cents worth
 
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dladams76 said:
I have read this more than once and I usually don't get involved in debate but I just feel the need.I bought a sovereign xs2a pro when they first came out.I thought I'd screwed up but I got used to it.that's been over 10 years ago.I know my sovereign better than I know my wife.as far as sensitivity goes I never ever hunt in auto.if you do you will lose deep signals.the whole thing is,you can run it about as high as you want.I just about always am running above three quarters to max.BUT you have to slow down if there is a lot of iron.)You can find deep coins when the threshold is nulled.if you notice that when you stop your threshold comes back,then its just closely spaced iron.80 per cent of the places I hunt are like this.I do know that you will not detect deeper with a sovereign with the sens turned down.if it is on the fringe at max sens and you go to half sens then you are going to lose it or get a weeker signal.I've used about every detector made and I always come back to the sov because I've used one for over 10 years exclusively.a lot of people think that you can use it like an xlt but it just doesn't work that way.if there is a lot of iron/nulling. Just slow down a little.it has the effect of bringing back the threshold because you are giving the machine a chance to recover and also you won't be sacrificing any depth.and once again just because the machine is nulled,it will still detect coins at depth.anyway that's my 2 cents worth

Daniel I agree with Rick here, its obvious youve been paying attention to the sov as you hunt and youve learned it well. Ive argued with many people about the sovs ability to still find targets when nulled, I guess youve gotta experience it to believe it, and youve seen it also:thumbup:
Paying attention like your doing is what learning is all about!
 
Sensitivity ? .......".its all site dependent as some have stated" ....... There is NOTHING better than EXPERIENCE !!......Spend the time , as Art said , and learn your macine, and make DARN SURE you try out what people post ..... ......Go out and do some of the experiments that people post .....Take NOTHING as Gospel !!......Believe 1/2 of what you see, and NONE of what you hear ....... I have problably found the at least 1/2 of what I have read on the various forums is complete B.S., and this not only comes from forum members , but also from well respected folks in the industry that have an agenda to sell detectors !!..... ..... WHen you read something , and then go out and try it , you will THEN know whether or not what you read works for you or not ..... I continue to hear various ways that people do things , or different settings that they use , and some MIGHT work while most don't in my area .......It's all SITE DEPENDENT !!.... I can go to a park that I freqent and have to keep the Sensitivity on Auto quite a bit of the time in certain area's because the ground conditions change so much , and some area's have more trash than others, some hold water more than others, etc ......less than 4 miles from this park , I'm on the beach and I can run my Sensitivity to the MOON !!.... I'd be NUTS to keep my sensitivity in one spot .... I would venture to say that if I kept my sensitivity at 3 o'clock at the beach that I would probably loose at least 60% of my finds, especially as sanded in as the beaches around here have been this year !!......EXPERIENCE !!.....is key !!.....Jim
 
I think the site is a big factor on how the sensitivity is set but the search coil used is very important.Take an old BBS 1000 coil it requires a lower sensitivity adjustment to get a stable and quite performance.Go too high with the sensitivity of the old BBS 10 inch coil and it gets very erratic and makes it very unpleasant to use.One of my favorite coils the small 800 BBS or Tornado is very stable and smooth.With the small Tornado I can run the sensitivity at max in most of Michigan parks.Another example run your WOT coil at high sensitivity and by the end of the hunt you'll hear a ringing noise long after your search.My conclusion the search coil and site are the biggest factors to determine your sensitivity settings.
 
Ron
There is much more to it than that. Let's take optimum conditions...you could run the sensitivity at max with any coil without problems of falsing, nulling , or any other detectable problems.
Around here, the optimum setting for my Sovs is always the same for three of the four coils that I have unless conditions cause problems. Any kind of dirt and moisture content other than completely saturated dirt where I can run almost another hour higher. I NEVER run sensitivity higher because I know what will happen.
I let conditions (including trash) dictate which coil will be the best choice. Then I will never run higher than my optimum setting anyway, but I will sure go lower if I have to. Sometimes into auto if things get too hairy.
Only one manual setting to watch and not exceed, but running as close as I feel practical. Otherwise I could care less where the knob is set. I would even be happy if there was an adjustable stop on the sensitivity knob, but that would block out auto.

hh
 
Art, I agree there are other factors,but the larger coils in area's where I search will settle down with the sensitivity lowered.Like you said the area and conditions dictate your coil size used. Thanks Ron
 
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