See If Your Tesoro Can Pass This Test.

[Happy_Hour]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FFAYBPfJ-s&feature=youtu.be

 

[Walknstik]

I know next to nothing about Wilson detectors but do remember seeing them advertised in the treasure hunting magazines years back. I wonder how the Wilson would perform on Monte's Nail Board Test? I'm pretty sure the Tesoro used in this test had the older D-90 discrimination circuitry....wonder what type of discrimination circuitry that Wilson has?

 

[slingshot]

My Compadre w/5.75" coil passed the test. The Compadre w/8" coil should do even better due to the wrap around effect.

 

[Happy_Hour]

My Compadre w/5.75" coil passed the test. The Compadre w/8" coil should do even better due to the wrap around effect.

 

[slingshot]

I wish I still had my old Compass to test- I think the 15 kHz frequency was perfect for this.

 

[kaolinwasher]

Tjn with the 5.75DD did not pass. Tejon.

 

[slingshot]

Tjn with the 5.75DD did not pass. Tejon.

Hmmmm. Wonder if a rounder coil would do? The dd has a narrow beam.

 

[cal]

I will try it when I get a rusty square nail with my outlaw. I do know the some of the Wilsons had a good reputation in discriminating nails. There use to be Wilson-Neuman detectors. Daytona II was one of there popular models. The box was narrow slim and cool like a box of silver thin cig package. They were decent detectors also.

 

[slingshot]

I will try it when I get a rusty square nail with my outlaw. I do know the some of the Wilsons had a good reputation in discriminating nails. There use to be Wilson-Neuman detectors. Daytona II was one of there popular models. The box was narrow slim and cool like a box of silver thin cig package. They were decent detectors also.

OK. Did I conduct a valid test? I only had a regular nail!??

 

[cal]

I'm sorry! Thought you said a square nail and assumed it would be rusty.My bad! I will try with a regular nail.

 

[Monte]

n/t

 

[amberjack]

seen plenty of vids where the old machines do better in nails iron etc.. no depth but compared to new machines but if stuff is shallow why not use one they work from what I have seen.

AJ

 

[slingshot]

Monte, I know I had a coin hustler, and I think the other was the 77b- had the sensitivity control as well as one or two other controls. It purred like a kitten! The most remembered was the Coin Magnum- you had to go a little slow and recheck some hits- but that was a deepseeker back then. I got hung up on the discrimination craze and let the 77B go. Oh the follies of youth!

 

[slingshot]

I'.m sorry! Thought you said a square nail and assumed it would be rusty.My bad! I will try with a regular nail.

Well, the video DID use a square nail and I don't know if I ran a valid test-although I used a large nail

 

[JimGilmore]

you do seem to swing the wilson very slow compared to all the others..

 

[vito]

Oh no. The Wilson can be swept as fast as the DeLeon. THe R&C was a fantstic detector for it's time.

 

[amberjack]

This test peaked my interest and was something fun to do tonight.

used an Australian shilling 925 silver bit smaller than a quarter and a 3" nail

just grabbed what I had set up and a couple swap outs.

Cibola with CSC : Pass

Vaquero with 6 x 8 Detech DD coil : Pass

Outlaw with 7" concentric coil : Fail

Compadre with 5.75" Concentric coil: Fail

Silver Micromax 4" Concentric coil: Fail

F19 10 x 5 Fisher DD coil : Pass

CTX 11 DD coil: Pass

Compadre 7" DD coil: Pass

Silver Micromax 7" DD coil ass

Silver Micromax 5.75" Concentric coil: Fail

Outlaw 7" DD coil: Pass

Cibola 5.75" Concentric coil: Fail

I didn't move the nail had one the same to make sure it was not making a noise, scanned across the nail like the video, was done inside the house nails in the floor TV on etc.. but each test was equal.

what it all means who knows maybe the DD coils handle EMI better maybe such a big nail wasn't as much fun for the Concentrics being right on top the coin anyway this is what I found and the best hit was on the Vaquero with the 6 x 8 DD Detech coil like smashed the coin, 2nd a draw I recon CTX and F19 as in ID on coin was good and real close to right numbers.

have other coils I could have used but that was enough for one night.

what does this mean for in the field hunting I will leave that to you too work out but it did show me something and I will process that over who knows how long

was a fun experiment and the new Detech 6 x 8 has proved in field to me its a real nice coil and am saving my penny's for a 5 pin need to get out there and find some more gold or something to buy one.

just to add a pass was a solid hit I would dig a fail no dig.

AJ

 

[Monte]

[size=medium]Monte, I know I had a coin hustler, and I think the other was the 77b- had the sensitivity control as well as one or two other controls. It purred like a kitten! The most remembered was the Coin Magnum- you had to go a little slow and recheck some hits- but that was a deepseeker back then. I got hung up on the discrimination craze and let the 77B go. Oh the follies of youth![/size]

The 77B was the top-of-the-line straight TR model offered by Compass. That and it's twin variant the 77-Auto which had a 2-speed auto-tune pushbutton selector. The 77B and 71B just had more controls/features than the 99B, 94B and Coin Hustler versions, but they all used the Double-D coils and really had very similar performance.

My 99B takes two 6-AA battery packs, has the 8" DD coil, and works fine, for how they worked, with the need for operator-controlled coil-to-ground relationship that could get challenging in a ghost town or other site with rough-textured ground. My Coin Hustler, a very simple, lower-end model with one knob and powered with one 9-V battery, comes with the handy 6" DD coil and still calls for operator controllability, but ... it is small, light, and handy to take along on many trips I make to iron nail infested sites where it can still do very well, as long as I do my part to control the coil-to-ground relationship mandatory with all the original straight TR detectors of long, long ago.

Today is just a keep-it-simple day, as I head out shortly with my Remington shotgun for some Dove Hunting, my Leupold binoculars for some Deer scouting as that season opens a week from today, and with my primary-carry detectors along, it will mainly be a Tesoro Silver Sabre [size=small]micro[/size]MAX used at a couple of old school sites I plan to check out that date to ± 1920's era.

I have other sites for the simple TR's to provide some entertainment.

If you had a Coin Magnum that worked properly, you had one of maybe about 50% that came off-the-line. That model came about kind of at the start of the decline in Compass business when they, and many other metal detector manufacturers, were struggling at about the peak of the industry ... which was about 1983 to 1986. They needed something new on the market to stay competitive and they rushed the release of the Coin Magnum into production before all the bugs were worked out. Kind of sad, but we saw a lot of that back in the 1980's, and then many brands fell to their demise, including Compass, and those remaining still seem to hit some struggling points with models that have jumped the gun with an early release model or two with problem plagued issues.

Oh well, I have one modern production unit that is solid and reliable, and four good, all-time favorites from Tesoro that were manufactured from 1/'93, a couple brought out in 10/'97, and one introduced in 3/'01 which all work excellent, and ought to continue to provide excellent service long into the future. My Racer works well. I am patiently awaiting the release of the Teknetics Omega 8500, which also ought to work well. But I'll continue to rely on the proven field performance of these four older-issued Tesoro's as long as I can still get out and enjoy this great sport. They make my 'primary-use' detector pick easy for most of the old, iron littered sites I encounter.

Yes, there were the "follies of our youth" for many of us, if we got started early on and learned to appreciate the better models that were out there, and that's why I am pleased to still have these two Compass models in my detector arsenal. When I do let them tag along and enjoy using them, I often get more enjoyment out of the fond memories I have of good times past than I do from any good target finds, and that adds to the enjoyment of this great sport.

Honestly, fond memories are also on my mind all the time I am using my favorite old-reliable Tesoro models. Relying on a 22+ year-old production detector, with a modern 6" Concentric coil mounted, to do 95% to 100% of my searching on a recent 5-day ghost town outing sure triggers great memories, periodically interrupted with that beautiful audio hit on a 'dig-me' target response.

Well, 45 minutes until sunrise so Miss Rikki & I am out of here!

Monte

 

[slingshot]

Well, if I ever find a square nail, I'll try again. Good to know it works with a large carpenter's nail. Did you try it with the nail just ticking reject?

 

[fowlercharles]

Hi Texadillo. I went outside and tried my Wilson "Coin Select" on a 1906 Barber quarter laying on the grass with a bent square nail on top of the quarter . Also happened to be standing under the power line going into my house. Anyway the Wilson hit hard on the quarter at "several" (elbow bending bunch) inches! I went back inside and did like the video and the "Coin Select" got real quiet with the nail on books over the quarter. I sure hope someone comes along and proves me wrong, but I have tried same test before and had the same results. I have heard others say that the other older Wilson Coin and Relic was a better( different) machine. Also heard it said they were the same.?? I can say though that as for me ,my Coin Select did not pass. Next test will be in the dirt, where it needs to be. I guess I have to go and try my Compadre 5.75 again because it didn't pass either. Someone said their's did. That is great! Tried several other T's and they did not pass either. That is very interesting about the DD coils dong so well! Did not try my TJ 10 X5(DD) yet, but will! Big surprise was after trying the Compass Coin Hustler "8" and (of course) it passed, I tried the HAYS MK II and it blew my mind. Inside test on the nail ,books quarter just like the others I set it "silent" on the edge of threshold and it Passed with surprising depth(air) over the nail. I set it up with the regular buzz/hum and it gave even more depth as it should be expected. All that remains to be seen meaning anything unless it happens in the dirt but it is fun playing with it inside and taking a break now and then with some coffee and a cookie, instead of being outside feeding Mosquitos ! HH, Y'all Charlie