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Secrets stashed inside the 250...

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There are more electronics inside than in expensive detectors and the chip is twice as large which means there is more horsepower than is being used now.
Go to the URL listed and take a look at the gold coins found by Carl Mathies ( a Garrett factory rep ) with the 250 trailing behind three Explorers and with the sensitivity way below 50%. There were actually more gold coins found than what is shown in the picture.
Bill
 
You guys now i like Garretts... but a Garrett factory rep. finding a few goldcoins walking behind an (or three) Explorer(s) on a lawn is hard to believe.
Why didn't the Explorer guys find them ?
Why a Garrett factory rep. ?
So hundreds of 250 buyers and i don't see one gold coin and the Garrett rep. guy walks behind three Explorers and find a few gold coins...that story is even better than that tesoro hyping from the Mayor.
I know the 250 could find gold coins and it's a great detector, but stories like that make people believe the other good posts about the 250 is just hype too.
HH,
Andy
 
I'd like to know a few more details, myself. I don't believe I've ever heard of anyone on here coming up with even one gold coin, much less a handful of 'em at once. Now, not to say it's not true, but.....
 
I didn't mean to start a firestorm but it's not hard to believe. It just proves that you never get it all. I've followed behind guys before and picked up a slug of coins they missed. I trailed three guys one time and picked up about $2.50 in coins they had missed and they were walking almost side by side. When I showed them the coins they refused to believe it. There is no way any detector in the world can cover every square inch of turf no matter how wonderful it is claimed to be. I believe I have an article on that very subject in the Online Magazine at TD and also an old issue of Lost Treasure or Treasure Facts, complete with diagrams.
There is an old park a few blocks from my house that I have hunted for 30 years and never found a gold coin but other guys did, detecting in the very same spots I had covered many times, and one guy that found a gold coin was using an old TR machine. The only way one could completely cover every inch of any area would be to dig it up and methodically sift every square inch of soil several times.
I once conducted an experiment then wrote about it in Lost Treasure. I visually staked out a small area ( about 20' x 20' ) then hunted it north to south, east to west, then hunted it diagonally from each corner and found coins and trinkets each time that I had missed going in the other directions. I also overlapped each scan by more than 50%. As I recall I pulled over $7.00 plus trinkets out of that plot. I done the same thing on a grassy knoll in front of a high school auditorium and pulled out over $13.00 in coins, a bracelet watch, two gold rings, and one silver ring, plus other trinkets. It is very time consuming but very productive but most people don't want to spend that kind of time and effort, they want instant results. Your hunting style, method, and time spent, has everything to do with what and how much you find not the detector you are using.
Bill
 
Yeah there is a post on the TD Garret Forum by a guy we all know who was for days on end bad mouthing the 250 big time, and then the pic at Dixies detectors. I have about six Garretts and I'm going to dissect a couple along with the 250 and see what I find but I already know from 41 years in this hobby ( and field testing a slew of detectors ) that the 250 doesn't perform like a $199 detector, and I discovered that from the very minute I started using it.
When I first tested the 2000 and 1500 years ago I discovered a feature on them that Garrett didn't even advertise or mention in their catalogs and brochures. It is now called Scan Track.
Bill
Bill
 
If you could boil the crap out of this FANTASTIC tale, there wouldn't be anything left. Reminds me of the detector that he advertised in early 70, as being able to detect paper money....Anybody remember that one??
 
i knew that...but the point is a guy from Garrett with the newest top seller walking behind 3 (not one)user of a top of the line other brand detector and finds 5 or more gold coins (not a quarter or a nickel).
I guess that they forget to turn the Explorer on and on accident a coin collector lost the coins there a few years ago while mowing the lawn, hehehehe.
Andy
 
That would explain the numerous gold coins he found. What information that is missing is what everyone else was hunting at this meet, and/or how many coins were planted in the first place. That puts this whole story into a somewhat realistic scenario.
 
My freind is proof that thing are never hunted out. He hunt a fort site everyone has hit for 20 years and still finds stuff. But a 250 behind 3 Explores this is hard to believe. I would like to see a 20 by 20 foot area rope off. Then let my freind who run his Explore in all metal go through it with 50% sensitivity. Then let the 250 with the most stable sensitivity go through it. I would bet my freind will almost clean it competely out. I have been using the Sov and EXcal. for a long time and can not clean it out totally but I won't leave much behind. My piont is take people with good knowledge of the Minelab product for this test.Not trying to start anything but come on.Just my thoughts,Joe
 
If you look at the pic and the size and depth of the hole, in a wide open grassy area, with six $20 gold pieces in it - it was hardly a planted hunt or a hunt at all. Where did that tale originate?
Bill
 
Ah, our resident cynic? <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)"> Yeah I remember that one but I also remember all the other hundreds of claims by the nearly 100 detector manufacturers back then. I also remember some of the early, primitive, field tests by the first treasure mags. One editor placed coins under the carpet in his office and that was the field test.
Bill
 
Andy you need to get out more. Seems you have led a sheltered life. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
Some years back my buddy, Ken Weinman, penned a story about a buried train robbery loot in New Mexico. Two guys in Texas read the story and went looking for it. They made nine trips up to New Mexico every weekend and on the last trip they located the loot. I have one of the silver dollars from that loot.
Ken also traveled from his home in New Mexico to interview two guys in California who some years ago dug up a gallon jug full of gold coins in the california desert, and he wrote a story about that. Somewhere around here I have pics of those coins. Just because you ain't found any don't mean they ain't out there and just because you own an Explorer or a dozen of them doesn't mean you can conquer the world of detecting and it certainly doesn't mean that it's impossible to miss a coin or cache of coins just because you are swinging an Explorer.
To hear some of these Explorer users you'd think they were vacuum cleaners and once they went through an area it would be devoid of all coins. In my nearly 42 years in this hobby I have heard and seen every BS scenario ever conceived. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
Bill
Bill
 
Like I said, in a 20'x20' area you have 57,600 square inches to possibly hold a target. You have to realize that when your signal penetrates the ground to depth it ain't the size of your coil anymore. It has shrunk considerably so at depth you are covering a whole lot less real estate than your coil is covering on the surface. Some signals at peak depth will only be covering an area the size of a half dollar so even if you overlap 50% you are still missing a lot of terrain. Visualize that.
Most people never consider this or the sheer mathematical logistics of coinshooting. I have gone over covered holes left by other detectorist and found coins in or near the hole. But perhaps they weren't uing a magic Explorer. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":)">
Bill
Bill
 
so clear in fact:
If they would have claimed the Ace followed 3 GTI2500's, you would have been the one calling BS!
<img src="/metal/html/lol.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":lol">
DAS
 
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