Scuba got a great bargain for $250 - nice job. I'm really surprised you couldn't get good offers for it jmann - perhaps it was just the timing. I used to look at Ebay now and then and the used ones were usually being bid on up to the $400-$700 range. Like I said, maybe it was just the timing.
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Question! what is the resale value of CZ20 on good conditios :please:
- Thread starter elki1052
- Start date
The CZ-20 and/or 21 are the go-to MD at the salt water beach. They are the same except . . .
The CZ-20 has been identified as not being leak proof as advertised if taken deep enough for an
extended period of time. It's well documented where it will leak and why.
The CZ-21 is a redesign of the CZ-20 that simply replaces the control case and pin point button
with reliable water proof replacements . . . that's it.
It's not a cheap conversion and only Fisher can do it.
I asked Fisher for a quote on a conversion but so far no word.
I would not consider $250 to be tooo cheap for a heavy, used CZ-20 that has been through a couple
of owners and subjected to unknown use and facing an expensive conversion. I would, however, con-
sider $500-$600 to be way too much. Just MHO considering . . .
You can buy a newCZ-21 for around $950.
The CZ-20 has been identified as not being leak proof as advertised if taken deep enough for an
extended period of time. It's well documented where it will leak and why.
The CZ-21 is a redesign of the CZ-20 that simply replaces the control case and pin point button
with reliable water proof replacements . . . that's it.
It's not a cheap conversion and only Fisher can do it.
I asked Fisher for a quote on a conversion but so far no word.
I would not consider $250 to be tooo cheap for a heavy, used CZ-20 that has been through a couple
of owners and subjected to unknown use and facing an expensive conversion. I would, however, con-
sider $500-$600 to be way too much. Just MHO considering . . .
You can buy a newCZ-21 for around $950.
scubadetector
New member
mcgov51 said:
NO Word??
Read my post earlier. 299.00 and that includes a one year warranty. IF it needs a new coil and/or headphones expect to pay more. Turn around 7 - 10 days and only they can do it BECAUSE only they can pressure test them. IF your machine is NOT broken don't bother.
Call Felix at First Texas if you need any more help.
TVR - If you're a dealer or reseller . . . sorry but
The eBay AD said . . . NEW . . . Last One Left . . . $958
I watched it for 3 weeks. . . it just sold.
I'm sure many other forum members here saw it.
*When I buy . . . I will buy new and avoid paying more than
the used product is worth and by-pass the risk of unforeseen
damage.
*If I can find a location to justify this kind of expenditure.
Most locations open to MD'g are constantly hammered.
The eBay AD said . . . NEW . . . Last One Left . . . $958
I watched it for 3 weeks. . . it just sold.
I'm sure many other forum members here saw it.
*When I buy . . . I will buy new and avoid paying more than
the used product is worth and by-pass the risk of unforeseen
damage.
*If I can find a location to justify this kind of expenditure.
Most locations open to MD'g are constantly hammered.
scubadetector
New member
Well, if you can wait till winter, just like boats and scuba gear, they seem to go cheaper. Yes, I saw the one in question. But if you find a CZ-20 cheap enough, EVEN broke and you have to spend 299.00 to have it repaired and made into a CZ-21 AND you will get a 1 year warranty, I would say snag it.
Anyplayce that is hammered is still open to fresh drops. One ring will pay for the machine. I have found over 4 grand in gold this year. I am guessing at least a third is fresh drops.
Anyplayce that is hammered is still open to fresh drops. One ring will pay for the machine. I have found over 4 grand in gold this year. I am guessing at least a third is fresh drops.
Hey Scuba - I agree but for me I'm on the fence for new.
Then, you know, Fisher is coming out with a new model too.
Might be a CZ, might be a new F ???
Fresh drops . . . yeah true . . . just don't take your finds to a pawn shop
unless you are happy with $0.20 on a $1.00 type deal.
There's a realatively small beach 90 minutes away in my area that is visited
by no less than 50 MD's a week. It's tough to justify that kind of expense . . .
gas, tolls, time.
Then, you know, Fisher is coming out with a new model too.
Might be a CZ, might be a new F ???
Fresh drops . . . yeah true . . . just don't take your finds to a pawn shop
unless you are happy with $0.20 on a $1.00 type deal.
There's a realatively small beach 90 minutes away in my area that is visited
by no less than 50 MD's a week. It's tough to justify that kind of expense . . .
gas, tolls, time.
scubadetector
New member
Yes NO pawn shops and NO jewlery stores. And no WE BUY GOLD stores. Read the thread about ARA in the Metal Detecting Forum or on Beach and Scuba. They give you 98% of the value and can't beat it.
I am only here to help people. NOT to promote one detector or company to sell gold to. Water hunting is dangerous and I have had a friend drown while wading and another person I knew drowned wading and detecting. If you only have one beach and it gets hit that hard yes hard to justify.
I live in Michigan. Not only the 4 Great lakes are here But also Lake St. Clair which is a gold mine, and 11 thousand other lakes are here and gold has been dropped since forever ago. My oldest dated ring is 1879. I find between 6 and 25 thousand a summer. So far this year I have a tad bit over 4. grand just in gold.
And yes I have read the rumor that a new CZ might be out before Christmas. BUT no idea if its a new water machine and I am not holding my breath!! (except when I dive!)
The CZ is my detector of choice. The main reason is I dive 90% of the time with it and I am in super shallow water. I need to hear boats and jet skiis and the CZ is silent until you find a target. Becoming propeller bait isn't my idea of having fun.
I am only here to help people. NOT to promote one detector or company to sell gold to. Water hunting is dangerous and I have had a friend drown while wading and another person I knew drowned wading and detecting. If you only have one beach and it gets hit that hard yes hard to justify.
I live in Michigan. Not only the 4 Great lakes are here But also Lake St. Clair which is a gold mine, and 11 thousand other lakes are here and gold has been dropped since forever ago. My oldest dated ring is 1879. I find between 6 and 25 thousand a summer. So far this year I have a tad bit over 4. grand just in gold.
And yes I have read the rumor that a new CZ might be out before Christmas. BUT no idea if its a new water machine and I am not holding my breath!! (except when I dive!)
The CZ is my detector of choice. The main reason is I dive 90% of the time with it and I am in super shallow water. I need to hear boats and jet skiis and the CZ is silent until you find a target. Becoming propeller bait isn't my idea of having fun.
TVR - Yes the pricing on that one was a little ahead of its time but . . .
I would expect the close-out of the current model to be considerably less than
what it is now when the new promised CZ Model comes out in 4 more months.
That is even if the new model is only . . . just as good but lighter.
Wouldn't be surprised to see DD interchangeable coils.
I would expect the close-out of the current model to be considerably less than
what it is now when the new promised CZ Model comes out in 4 more months.
That is even if the new model is only . . . just as good but lighter.
Wouldn't be surprised to see DD interchangeable coils.
scubadetector
New member
mcgov51 said:
A couple of problems with your statement. Even IF a new Fisher detector is coming out, we haven't heard if its a CZ and we haven't heard if its a water machine. We are only hoping its BOTH and has some of the features we want.
diggindirt
New member
A CZ20 with 10" coil and travel case sold last Aug, 28th on Ebay for $570. and appeared to be in very good condition too.
IMHO, I would think anyone that doesn't quite have the money for a "new" CZ21, Excal or other top flight machine would go to around $500. for a decent detector.
That would be true for a cleaner working machine which would allow someone to recoup the cost with just a few good finds.
I'm sure there's many new hunters that would like to get into the water with a top quality machine and spend no more than 5 bills to do so. I also own a perfect CZ20, which was sent to Fisher right around the time the company was being sold.That CZ20 had been sent for possible repairs/checkup and a completely rebuilt CZ20 was sent back (should still have many good years left on it)!
Anything for sale is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.................Still seems like good working CZ 20s can get between $400 to $550. from what I've seen recently on Ebay
IMHO, I would think anyone that doesn't quite have the money for a "new" CZ21, Excal or other top flight machine would go to around $500. for a decent detector.
That would be true for a cleaner working machine which would allow someone to recoup the cost with just a few good finds.
I'm sure there's many new hunters that would like to get into the water with a top quality machine and spend no more than 5 bills to do so. I also own a perfect CZ20, which was sent to Fisher right around the time the company was being sold.That CZ20 had been sent for possible repairs/checkup and a completely rebuilt CZ20 was sent back (should still have many good years left on it)!
Anything for sale is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.................Still seems like good working CZ 20s can get between $400 to $550. from what I've seen recently on Ebay
triplehooked
Member
diggindirt said:Anything for sale is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.................Still seems like good working CZ 20s can get between $400 to $550. from what I've seen recently on Ebay
Sounds about right.
I just traded my CZ with 8" coil for a CZ3D with accys. and some boot. It worked out to be in that price range. I'll be looking for a CZ20/21 with the 10" coil next spring. They are great detectors.He gave me a very good solutions to my problems, as did other members on the web...
To me, it's all about condition, but like the forum members that know what the real deal is in respect to the quality and defects of a detector, listen to the them. It became well known that CZ 20's had defected face plates and that the pin point buttons were in the same boat, even the Fisher 5, 6, and 6a had problems with their pin point buttons.
If you are an original owner with the life time guarantee, your alright, but, most of original owners have sold their CZ 20's, so if you buy a used unit, you are at one time or another going to have to up grade to the CZ 21.
If you buy a used CZ 20, you are taking a gamble as to when the unit will need to be up graded when one of the defects kicks in. I bought one, and it looked new, used it once in the water, didn't leak, but the pin pointer got stuck, and I had completely washed her after using it.
Now (if) I would have make a real good find, it would have off set the repairs, and it would have been great. But, to have to send in the CZ 20 thinking it was going to cost only 185.00 plus tax a like couple of years ago, and not be able to repair it because I just did not have the money. So I stored it in the closet, took out the batteries, wrapped in plastic.
Decided to water hunt again, and the repair price went to 299.00 and was not happy, not only did I did not have the funds to repair the CZ 20 again. So this summer, I bought a used CZ 20 at a little more of what it would have cost to repair the 20 I had, but, it's a gamble, and I made the wrong decision, and was able to go on a couple of hunts in the water, and again, my finds were nothing to write home about. Now, this 20 I made sure that I had sealed it correctly, and the battery compartment still leaked, but no water in the upper housing, so that was good. I plan to up grade both 20's and sell them off at very little lost, as the beach season here is over, and to leave an up graded CZ 21 detector in the closet, to me, is very unproductive. So, if you purchase a used CZ 20, even it it's working, get the best price you can and send it in for the up grade, especially if it's fall or winter and you hunt the north east. HH...
Philo
To me, it's all about condition, but like the forum members that know what the real deal is in respect to the quality and defects of a detector, listen to the them. It became well known that CZ 20's had defected face plates and that the pin point buttons were in the same boat, even the Fisher 5, 6, and 6a had problems with their pin point buttons.
If you are an original owner with the life time guarantee, your alright, but, most of original owners have sold their CZ 20's, so if you buy a used unit, you are at one time or another going to have to up grade to the CZ 21.
If you buy a used CZ 20, you are taking a gamble as to when the unit will need to be up graded when one of the defects kicks in. I bought one, and it looked new, used it once in the water, didn't leak, but the pin pointer got stuck, and I had completely washed her after using it.
Now (if) I would have make a real good find, it would have off set the repairs, and it would have been great. But, to have to send in the CZ 20 thinking it was going to cost only 185.00 plus tax a like couple of years ago, and not be able to repair it because I just did not have the money. So I stored it in the closet, took out the batteries, wrapped in plastic.
Decided to water hunt again, and the repair price went to 299.00 and was not happy, not only did I did not have the funds to repair the CZ 20 again. So this summer, I bought a used CZ 20 at a little more of what it would have cost to repair the 20 I had, but, it's a gamble, and I made the wrong decision, and was able to go on a couple of hunts in the water, and again, my finds were nothing to write home about. Now, this 20 I made sure that I had sealed it correctly, and the battery compartment still leaked, but no water in the upper housing, so that was good. I plan to up grade both 20's and sell them off at very little lost, as the beach season here is over, and to leave an up graded CZ 21 detector in the closet, to me, is very unproductive. So, if you purchase a used CZ 20, even it it's working, get the best price you can and send it in for the up grade, especially if it's fall or winter and you hunt the north east. HH...
Philo