Question on V3 recovery speed.

[Old California]

Recently, meet a newbie to the hobby he's been detecting for a year. Invited him to a relic hunt this past weekend. Surprising, he did good after giving him a few tips.

My question is, and its the same issue when I owned a V3 when they first came out the recovery speed is too slow. With my V3, remember increasing the recovery speed and it was great after that. However, for the life of me couldn't find the right menu on his V3 so he was stuck in super slow recovery which was terrible for the relic areas laced with iron.

Kind of surprised the preset recovery is so slow?

HH, Paul

 

[liondogs]

Press the MENU button twice on the control pod then scroll down to EXPERT MENU then select FILTER AND SPEED and then adjust RECOVERY DELAY.

 

[Old California]

Thanks Joe, I'll do that next time I see the V3 user.

Appreciate this allot, and so will he.

Thanks again,
Paul

 

[Elton]

I'm sure it varies with sites and dirt..But in general what seems to work best for everyone.

I'm use to an XLT recovery speed..What setting would more match that recovery speed ??

 

[Rob (IL)]

I just got home from Texas. First remember it is recovery delay on the Spectras. The easiest solution is simply to have the recovery button on your live controls.

Most of the programs were set to 80 but the the Hi Pro is 65 and the deep Silver as I remember is 40.

Again, if the recovery button isn't in the live contols that should be addressed.

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[Larry (IL)]

I don't know what the XLT is set at Elton but I was playing with recovery delay yesterday and in trash I have settled on a delay of 45 which is pretty fast. When hunting in fields and other less trashy areas for deep targets, I like the fuller sound better and recovery is set at 100. With faster recovery (lower numbers) your target response is shorter and the opposite is true with longer recovery times. You get more of a BONG instead of a chirp with higher recovery numbers. When making adjustments, everything is a tradeoff, gain something, lose something.

 

[Rob (IL)]

Go to Configure->Live Controls->Extend->Order.
Scroll down to highlight a desired item.
Press/Hold ENTER, then press UP/DOWN to move to item through the list.


There is a special item {~The End~} that marks the end of the Control Bar contents. Move it up first to shorten the contents, then move in/out individual items.

 

[Elton]

n/t

 

[Elton]

I don't know what the XLT is set at Elton but I was playing with recovery delay yesterday and in trash I have settled on a delay of 45 which is pretty fast. When hunting in fields and other less trashy areas for deep targets, I like the fuller sound better and recovery is set at 100. With faster recovery (lower numbers) your target response is shorter and the opposite is true with longer recovery times. You get more of a BONG instead of a chirp with higher recovery numbers. When making adjustments, everything is a tradeoff, gain something, lose something.

Thanks Larry I appreciate the explanation...

 

[daddyflea]

I use from 35 to 45 myself. Best way to test it is to get a penny and a nickle and put them just a little more than a coil width apart. Going both ways you should be able to hear both coins at your normal swing speed.

 

[gabbyhayes]

In the cleaned out beach that I do much of my hunting, I use 120 and the V3i seems to go a little deeper at that setting.

 

[5900_XL-1]

I use from 35 to 45 myself. Best way to test it is to get a penny and a nickle and put them just a little more than a coil width apart. Going both ways you should be able to hear both coins at your normal swing speed.

I've found it a problem using that method if one coin is say, a quarter and the other a dime or penny. The quarter will dominate when the coil passes over it first. That's a glitch for an accurate RD setting IMO.

 

[daddyflea]

I use from 35 to 45 myself. Best way to test it is to get a penny and a nickle and put them just a little more than a coil width apart. Going both ways you should be able to hear both coins at your normal swing speed.

I've found it a problem using that method if one coin is say, a quarter and the other a dime or penny. The quarter will dominate when the coil passes over it first. That's a glitch for an accurate RD setting IMO.

No its not. Notice I said use a Penny and a Nickle. If your recovery is too long or your sweep speed too fast the Penny will always dominate the Nickle. If it is dominating your not getting full recovery. In other words, if you hit a large can with a penny or dime laying beside it, you are going to miss that target every time. Same could be said for a piece of iron. The best example would be hitting a Pulltab that IDs say 48 that has a ring or a Nickle laying beside it one coil width. You will miss that ring or Nickle every time because your machine has not recovered from the higher signal. If I am wrong somebody please correct me, but this is my trial and error experience.

 

[5900_XL-1]

We don't just swing over a dimes or pennies. You can't use those as basic standards.

 

[Blind Squirrel]

I believe that Daddyflea and 5900_XL-1 both make valid points. My solution to the challenge of getting good targets in close proximity to trash (or other good targets) is to stop and approach the signal from different angles with a much slower physical sweep speed. It works for me. I've been able to pull my share of mercs out of the same hole with rusty nails, rusty bottle caps and/or screw caps. Best of luck and...

Happy Hunting!
Blind Squirrel

 

[daddyflea]

We don't just swing over a dimes or pennies. You can't use those as basic standards.

I agree but for this method to work you must have a higher conductor (VDI) and a lower conductor positioned that coil width apart. Then you must hit the high conductor first then the lower and hear them both. Most any RD setting will pick up two equal conductors (VDI) as you pass over simply due to fading. There is arguments both way in that a long RD is usually best because you will always hear that low signal when going one direction. But the High signal will always dominate the other direction. This is exactly where the experienced detector operator may be well aware of this and explore that lower VDI just before the Higher conductor hits. Then there are guys like me that are rushing along and hit that High conductor first never hearing the Low conductor because it was dominated. I raise my Coil to find a Crushed Can and leave that Buffalo nickle or Mercury dime laying next to it because I have too long a RD and never heard it.