Question of ultra-deep target responces with the E-Trac.

[gibsondan]

Here's what deep silver sounds like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaCONrDiC3I

 

[Jason in Enid]

What we need with the videos, are the settings used, and to be able to see the Fe Co numbers. Sounds don't tell the whole story since a 01-42 sounds the same as a 35-42 which can sound the same as a 10-05 depending on the settings used.

 

[jbow]

It may not be any use to me, I always use ferrous sounds and two tones. I still have my SE though, I may try that at a place I know where I have found silver and one spot had some deep IHs.

Thanks,

J

 

[terrywl]

I really found it useful, thanks. I have been digging much "iffier" signals than that and not finding much. I found a '64 Lincoln yesterday that read 09/42 in heavy trash. It was my only coin for the day in an area that has produced many silver coins back to the late 1800's. Your video sound is great, could you verbally say it is a 12/47 or whatever? I watch every video posted and look forward to them. Many thanks to all of you that take the time to do so. HH Terry (San Diego)

 

[Ray-Mo.]

I will give it a try as soon as I get back in the field in a few days if all goes well,Ray.

 

[digitrich]

If you do, then it's time to check which one seems to work better. There is something to it. I have had days where I started hearing and digging targets in some areas that were really heavily pounded by me before. On those days, it is important to go as long as you can, because the following day, that depth and separation just may not be there. Several times I thought, heck I am tired, I'll hit it again tomorrow, only to find that they were no longer popping out of the ground....At first I thought it may have been a change in moisture content of the soil, but then I realized the EMI amount or frequency changed. Sometimes the wind would change direction and instead of blowing the EMI from the power lines away from me it, would now be blowing toward me and robbing my depth.

 

[digitrich]

Ray, good to see you back. Thanks for answering my post. I was kind of amazed when I originally posted it why more people didn't get something from it. Seemed important to me. My wife was in the hospital for the last month, and I had to take care of my 4 boys and business, so I have not been out hunting at all, warmest Oct/Nov in Iowa history, and I couldn't find time to hunt once.. She just got home two days ago, and everything is fine, so maybe I can get some hunting in before frost. I am starting to work an all metal angle on this Etrac, I have seen it pull targets in disc that the SE couldn't...so there has got to be a way for it to outshine in all metal and I am determined to find it.

I agree with you on the: it is mostly with copper/brass/lead targets (low conductors), silver does it too, but only if it's real deep or on edge. The warble is allot more pronounced in mineralised soils verses neutral soils. Seems allot easier to hear in the hotter soil. I have been using the 5 inch Sun Ray, in extreme iron, in auto plus 3, and when I get an iffy, I go into manual sensitivity, push it, and see if it improves, every so often, I have dug some pretty heavily masked coins this way, and I am getting very respectable depth too, in the 8 inch range which boggles my mind. The deepest target I have dug with the SE and the SR 5 inch was in the 6 inch range and that was a textbook "clean" signal with the coin parallel to the sky and coil. I am using the dense trash setting, fast on, and deep off. Many guys get an iffy signal and switch over to all metal to check it out, and then hear it disappear, and move on. I am wondering if that is a mistake. The dense trash setting maybe helping that signal come through the head phones, un-masking it, in all metal, it just locks onto the strongest signal. I have on several occasions, switched into all metal, lost the high tone, switched back into disc, found the high tone and dug a high conductive target, that I otherwise would have missed. Now, none of those targets were worth much, mostly small, like horse tack and such, but sooner or later, one is going to be a coin, probably on edge. Look forward to hunting with you sometime. Thanks for the post.

 

[Ray-Mo.]

Glad to hear you got your E-Trac dialed in so it is working for you.Just proves the old saying about perseverence pays off I guess.One of these days we will have to meet some where in between and do some hunting.I to believe a lot of people are failing to dig a lot of good ( deeper ) targets because they are hung up on digging the textbook perfect signals/IDs and are not taking the time to learn what the E-Trac is telling them.
I also was astounded with the depth I was getting with the little 5" Sunray coil and the 8x6 has been exceptional for me as well.Just dug a 1853 quarter yesterday at over 10" and partway on edge and it locked on at 1-46 but had that perfect high silver tone that just screamed deep silver! Boy is that silver tone addictive huh ???
Dug several ate up Indians at depth that were sounding just like I posted.I was to short on time or I would have Video recorded a couple for others to be able to see and hear.I think it would be a real eye opener for a lot of E-Trac users and help there Indian count go way up,Ray.

 

[biggboy101]

I'm new to the safari but i talked to minelab technical support and they said to noise cancel it not on the ground but i know Andy from what I have read is very experienced so idk? Ive tried both and not really noticed much of a difference

 

[Southwind]

Tone Variability sound low. That sounds like a penny to me. I crank my variability to 30 and you know when you have silver.

 

[Caretaker me]

I get deep coin signals 12 46 and the depth on the machine is on the bottom, I dig and find nothing, I have gone 2 feet down could it be iron or dig deeper, it's a field so I can dig a crater if I want