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John Dryja

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Convex shape, size of a nickel
I need to identify this, found near house built in 1850 in Western New York
 

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Convex shape, size of a nickel
I need to identify this, found near house built in 1850 in Western New York
Yes sir, fwcrawford nailed it. Great save. A Grand Army of the Republic button. Seems the G.A.R. was started in 1866 for the Union war vets and existed till 1954 when the last veteran died. There is also a womens and sons chapters. I would hit that site again. Good luck. Mark
 
Yes sir, fwcrawford nailed it. Great save. A Grand Army of the Republic button. Seems the G.A.R. was started in 1866 for the Union war vets and existed till 1954 when the last veteran died. There is also a womens and sons chapters. I would hit that site again. Good luck. Mark
So a little history here. Perhaps my biggest hero, second only to Theodore Roosevelt was George Westinghouse. He founded and built Westinghouse Airbrake In Wilmerding, Pa. For those too young, the invention of the airbrake made train travel significantly safer. Before it was about as safe as flying on a terrorist owned airline. Anyhow in 1894 the G.A.R. was scheduled to have its reunion here in Pittsburgh. Old George said I have a building at my factory that hasn't been outfitted yet and donated the site for the reunion. He fitted it with spiral staircases, chandeliers, the finest of everything. Think first class dining on the Titanic. He paid for everything. Turns out he was a civil war vet and a member of the G.A.R. He was the first to build his employees housing with indoor plumbing and electricity. Gave them workers insurance in the event the worker was disabled or killed the family wouldn't be out in the street. Also believed in a safe work environment and did his best to make it happen. While the other robber barons like Carnegie, Mellon Scaife, Frick and the like were exploiting the workers he understood the value of giving his employees a job with good wages and working conditions. He partnered with Tesla which brought about AC current and won the contract over Edison to power up the Chicago World's Fair.
Anybody that comes to Pittsburgh, I recommend a visit to Schenley Park. There is a memorial there in his honor. It was built and paid for by his employees. He was so revered that when he died in 1914 they shipped him home to Schenectady, his pallbearers paid their own way .
Footnote. You can detect in Schenley , me and at least a hundred others have pounded the place. But there is always a chance to find something old as the park dates back to the 1890s
 
Just imagine
If the South had won the Civil War (the way they won this last election), there would have been no GAR. A statue of Grant would have been unthinkable. That wouldnt have been tolerated by the the survivors in the North, much less the CSA. Only Southern Generals allowed on courthouse squares and no looking back at what could have been. If Mr. Westinghouse wasn’t imprisoned or worse after the war, and somehow managed to start his company, he would not have been able to compete with a slaveholder industry, so he would’ve either failed as a businessman or moved to a more developed country. Could he have manufactured generators and turbines using slaves? Yes. Would he have? I don’t think so. Some other country would have been the leader of the free world using his technology, skill, and ethics. The CSA would’ve had no need for a man like him. The country would have ended up with a population: 75% slaves, 20% poor whites, 5% rich fat white men. That’s pretty close to the population ratio of the South in the 1850s. No need for all those great patented inventions you could buy out of the Sears Catalogue to make farming more competitive. Maybe in Europe. Cars and trucks would have been made in Europe for rich slaveowners and Europeans.They would not have joined the fighting in WWI because they were not equipped and didn’t care. Germany would have won because the USA wasn’t there to help. Then, after taking over most of Europe, Germany would have come for the CSA. The dominoes keep falling.
In other words, I’m really glad you were able to find that button.
 
Excellent find on the button! Congratulations!

If the South had won the Civil War (the way they won this last election)
By popular vote with proper ID? For sure would have saved thousands upon thousands of American lives.

If Mr. Westinghouse wasn’t imprisoned or worse after the war,
I'm trying to remember who marched clear to Atlanta destroying everything in their path, especially pertaining to industry and food production, except what they wanted to keep for themselves.

Are you still sore from the last election? The Constitution says if the government is not acceptable, people have the right to form a new government. You could try that but, as a warning, it didn't work that well when the Southern states tried it. The federal government couldn't afford to lose the raw materials and money back then. I doubt it would be any easier today.

75% slaves, 20% poor whites, 5% rich fat white men. That’s pretty close to the population ratio of the South in the 1850s.
Far fetched anti South (then and now) opinion and false facts!

Official census 1850
 
Excellent find on the button! Congratulations!


By popular vote with proper ID? For sure would have saved thousands upon thousands of American lives.


I'm trying to remember who marched clear to Atlanta destroying everything in their path, especially pertaining to industry and food production, except what they wanted to keep for themselves.

Are you still sore from the last election? The Constitution says if the government is not acceptable, people have the right to form a new government. You could try that but, as a warning, it didn't work that well when the Southern states tried it. The federal government couldn't afford to lose the raw materials and money back then. I doubt it would be any easier today.


Far fetched anti South (then and now) opinion and false facts!

Official census 1850
I’ll be sore about the election for the next 4 years.
Nothing good ever came from going backwards.
I’ve lived in the South all my life and know that the South surrendered on paper only. Still very proud of the generals and government officials that lost the war and the flag they waved.
Secession from the union is not a change of government. It formed an illegal foreign country outside the United States of America. The opposite of constitutional and patriotic.
You sent an 1860 US census to make what point?
I mentioned the 1850s in the Southern states.
 
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