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Pre-civil war era Powder Flask.... Help finding year please

burlbark

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If this is as old as the 20 stars on the flag than I found my most significant relic of my life and it may be either way.

Using the 4x6 and mixed mode, I found it 40 yards south of the house dump on an old wagon trail. The powder measuring part of it was a couple of feet away and down 4-5 inches, both where found at around the same depth.

The land was granted to a soldier from the Indian wars here in California around 1875. From what I can ascertain he was here around ten years before being granted the land.

Can someone tell me what year this was made? It has 20 stars in the flag and that would put it around 1818. However the pistols with the barrels crossed look like a mix between a revolver and a flintlock. This gives me a range of 1818-1836 at the earliest.

Was this standard issue? There is also an anchor, sabre, paddle and bugle.

I hope there is no issue with posting this twice. Once in todays finds for maximum exposure. I am pretty thrilled. :clapping:
 
Burlbark--

Congratulations on a super find. Those are the type of finds that get my heart beating a little faster.

I remember about a year or 2 ago seeing an article in Western & Eastern Treasure about professional artifact restorers. I was very impressed with the work that they were able to do on damaged relics. If you are so inclined, it may be worth investigating. Great find!

Happy Hunting!
Blind Squirrel
 
Blind Squirrel said:
Burlbark--

Congratulations on a super find. Those are the type of finds that get my heart beating a little faster.

I remember about a year or 2 ago seeing an article in Western & Eastern Treasure about professional artifact restorers. I was very impressed with the work that they were able to do on damaged relics. If you are so inclined, it may be worth investigating. Great find!

Happy Hunting!
Blind Squirrel

Thanks, I had to sit down and collect myself for a bit and take a break after finding it. My buddy said start looking for the top, I didnt think there was a chance at finding it but that little 4x6 squeeked it out.

I have thought about having it restored and some of those guys do an absolutely awesome job.

My business is actually antique restoration but I have not done much copper restoration. I have worked on gold, silver, brass and specialized in furniture and lamps for 15 years or so. I may attempt it but have to do some more research first. I have an idea how I would work it with a sand bed, but I will just appreciate it for a while first.

The local archeologist wants to review my finds and I am happy to share them with the community. There is very little monetary value to it, but its priceless to a collector of local history. I am on the pacific coast in northern Ca and any pre civil war items are "very rare".
 
[size=large]the problem of sharing with an archie , is they tend to say it's such and such old and therefore must go to them for stuy. in some places anything over a hundred years old is theirs. i'd be careful. great find but be careful.

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Burlbark, that little 4X6 coil is a good one. It's my coil of choice in trash or at sites that are "hunted out." Good job finding the top of that flask.

I know what you mean about having to collect yourself after making a find like that. A few years back while hunting an old Texas Trail with my DFX, I "knew" that there had to be a plate there. There had previously been some very deep relics dug in the area so I adjusted my settings and strategy and was able to dig an Officer's Sword Belt Plate made between 1851 and 1874. It was dug at a measured 14 inches. I imagine that my excitement was similar to yours when you unearthed that flask.

If you decide to restore your flask, please post the before and after pictures?

The historical aspect of that find makes it that much more significant for your area. Hopefully, the flask is just the tip of the iceberg at that site. Best of luck and...

Happy Hunting!
Blind Squirrel
 
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Wow, and he did not have the top part to it either.
 
Thanks guys.

Obviously mine is not worth a whole lot in the shape its in. Its been burried for over a 100 years, however it his my most historical find and will be hard to top around here.
 
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