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unearth

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Ok, I give up. Where do you find the Pattern Discrimination Screen. I've spent about 2 hours trying to do so. BCOOP shows a beach pattern screen with ALL the Fe and Co squares. 1- 35 Fe and 1-50 Co. Where is that screen? Am I to guess, for example, where Fe 27, or Co 42 is while making a discrimination pattern? I've looked at the manual several times and it has not helped me to find this screen.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
Was BCOOP using the Xchange2 program to show the Beach Pattern? I know in the Xchange2 Program the squares and the editing options all show, both for the pattern files and the Tone ID as well. I haven't tried to edit any patterns in the machine itself, so I can't help with that part.
 
XChange2 has the screens for you to edit or build from. Ferrous 01 - 35 runs top to bottom. Conductive 01 - 50 runs left to right. In your example, FE27 CO42 would be 27/35 down the page (about 3/4) and 42/50 across the page (a little over 4/5) But again, if you pull up XChange2, you'll be able to count all 1750 grids. (35 X 50) HH Randy
 
What??? Are you kidding me??? I don't have a PC. Are you saying I can't make a discrimination pattern by just using the ctx???
 
Let me rephrase my last reply. I can make a discrimination pattern with the ctx. What would help would be to have the screen with the 1750 grid squares to help build the pattern. If that is not available on the ctx, then Minelab dropped the ball on this and should be considering doing a software update to the ctx that would allow patterns to be made without a computer. You could make a pattern on the etrac with the numbers and without a computer.
 
I assume you can edit your program right on the CTX just like you can with an E-Trac by accepting and rejecting fields and then saving. I haven't tried it on the CTX, it's much easier to open XChange 2 and do it on the computer name it and up load it to the CTX.

BCOOP
 
bcoop said:
I assume you can edit your program right on the CTX just like you can with an E-Trac by accepting and rejecting fields and then saving. I haven't tried it on the CTX, it's much easier to open XChange 2 and do it on the computer name it and up load it to the CTX.

BCOOP
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I'm not sure what you're assuming. I don't have a program on the ctx except what came with the machine. I can get to the edit program. I can accept all or reject all. What I cannot do is move the edit pattern cursor while seeing any numbers or the grid to see what numbers I'm editing. I cannot find the pattern discrimination screen you used to make your beach pattern.
 
unearth said:
What??? Are you kidding me??? I don't have a PC. Are you saying I can't make a discrimination pattern by just using the ctx???
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I'm making an honest effort to help you out. Your sarcasm is not well received.

Yes, you can make a discrimination Pattern from your CTX. Each Search mode has 2 separate Patterns. And you can edit any of the discrimination "grids" that you want, from your detector. Go into the Search mode you want to edit and select either Pattern one or Pattern two. Once you select the Pattern, the display will have the existing Pattern with the little frame editor in the middle. If you want to edit more or fewer "grids" with each press of the Identity pad, Page 9 shows that we press and hold the Identity pad to change the Edit Frame size. Use Manual editing to move the Edit Frame around the Discrimination Pattern. You can use the Identify button to edit areas of the pattern to accept (white areas) or reject (grey areas) certain targets. Remember that using a larger Edit Frame will change the exact target coordinates plus one or two segments either side.


The grid of the detector screen is comprised of vertical and horizontal axis. The display marks these by 10's. If you think of it as a piece of graft paper that is 35 squares up and down X 50 squares left to right, it makes it easier to understand. Starting in the upper left corner is square one, representing FE 01 and CO 01. The square in the lower right corner would be 35/50, representing FE 35 and CO 50. The entire top horizontal row is FE 01, and the grids across that line go from 01 - 50, left to right. The second row down is FE line 02. And again, the grids across that line go from 01 - 50, left to right. The third row down is FE line 03. And the grids across that line go from 01 - 50. And on and on and on. So if you were wanting to reject FE 19 X CO 24, you would set to reject the 24th box to the right, on line 19. A zinc penny comes might come in at 12/37, meaning the image would appear along the 12th line down, the 37th grid over to the right. If you read pages 34 and 35 in the manual, it tells you how access the Edit Menu to change your discrimination Patterns. It also tells you how to manually move the edit frame around the discrimination Patterns.
 
your not going to find the screen that I posted, that is the XChange2 progam that comes with the CTX on a CD or loaded from Minelab's web site.

BCOOP
 
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