Park hunt with the modified trashy park program

[Mosley]

Thanks! great information.

 

[Bill_S]

That would be great Bill..........If I ever make it down your way from NE Iowa, I'd like to hook up with ya for a hunt!

No problem Hawkeye, if you ever get near central Missouri let me know.

Thanks! One other dumb n00b question about exchange software... Do I upload the mode only or the mode and the pattern file to my e-trac?

From what I understand from the manual, the mode contains all the settings including the pattern? Is that right?

Yes Beachdude the mode file should be all you need.

 

[beachdude]

I am just back from a 3 hour hunt using your pattern Bill_S and I have to say as a new E-TRAC user, this pattern helped me a lot, and it even works in my Canadian environment although I am pretty sure all our newer cheap quality steel ,clad is being screened out.

It dramatically reduced the number of signals for pop tabs and foil coming into the headphones, making the hunting experience less frustrating for a new E-TRAC user like me. I didn't find that much, but I did find a couple of dimes, a couple of nickels, an old Canadian cent from the 1941, and 1946 wheat penny. The most important thing was it simplified the hunt, making it easier for me to concentrate on the good signals coming in while I learned what the signals meant by digging them.

I would highly recommend it to a new user of the E-TRAC.

 

[Bill_S]

Thanks for the update. You may have to make some adjustments for some of your coins. It was geared towards US coins. Glad it helped you out.....;o)

 

[Prep1957]

Great video,really liked it,and I love your digger going to order one, we are very dry in Illinois also.

 

[trappercnc]

Excellent video Bill!
I am new to the E-trac and am a little confused as to the difference between TTF and Conductive Multi Tone. In Conductive , instead of a low tone , there is a null (using stock coin or trashy park patterns). In Conduct. Multi-tone I get alot of falsing (high tone , 12-40 something #'s) after the null. In the old days we called this overshoot. Very frustrating to me thus far.
I have not yet tried TTF. Is this method going to alleviate the falsing , even with the stock coil? I have given up on some very deep holes (12") that showed good #'s , but shallower depth reading than the hole depth I am digging. I am assuming these are actually iron targets giving me false readings.
I guess my question is , is the opening up of the bottom of the trashy park pattern key to this being a successful method. ie: allowing the machine to give a tone (positive signal) to iron thus eliminating the falsing ? I mean , is the nulling caused by the stock pattern causing the falsing?
Thanks for the video , I hope it can help me with this dilemna.
Also , would you strongly recommend the pinpointer used in your video? I can see some real advantages to it but wonder about the additional weight. Is it a factor to be concerned with , or do the benefits outweigh this?
My goal with the E-trac is to go back to areas we worked to death years ago and find what we missed. Thus far I am not experiencing that. :-(.

 

[Oregon Bob]

Very informative video. Thank you for posting it.

 

[Bill_S]

I am new to the E-trac and am a little confused as to the difference between TTF and Conductive Multi Tone. In Conductive , instead of a low tone , there is a null (using stock coin or trashy park patterns).

Its not the tone but the discrimination pattern that is causing the null. Let me see if I can get this right. In Ferrous mode the low sound is at the bottom and gets higher as you go up, in Conductive the low tone is to the left and gets higher as you go to the right if you are in multi tone.

Multi-tone I get alot of falsing (high tone , 12-40 something #'s) after the null. In the old days we called this overshoot. Very frustrating to me thus far.

I really dont seem to have that problem with mine. Sure every once in a while you may get something like that in iron but not very often.

have not yet tried TTF. Is this method going to alleviate the falsing , even with the stock coil? I have given up on some very deep holes (12") that showed good #'s , but shallower depth reading than the hole depth I am digging. I am assuming these are actually iron targets giving me false readings.

Or maybe deep cans or something similar, probably a larget target. It think it would still depend more on the discrimination pattern than the tone.

I guess my question is , is the opening up of the bottom of the trashy park pattern key to this being a successful method. ie: allowing the machine to give a tone (positive signal) to iron thus eliminating the falsing ? I mean , is the nulling caused by the stock pattern causing the falsing?

Yes I think if you open it up that would help. I dont think the nulling has anything to do with the fasling.

Also , would you strongly recommend the pinpointer used in your video? I can see some real advantages to it but wonder about the additional weight. Is it a factor to be concerned with , or do the benefits outweigh this?
My goal with the E-trac is to go back to areas we worked to death years ago and find what we missed. Thus far I am not experiencing that. :-(.

The sunray is a good probe. It has some advantages and some disadvantages. Yes is will add more weight and some say the extra cable may make it more prone to EMI. The good thing is it will make the same sound as the Etrac so you will know if the target is iron or something in the coins area. I would take pistol probe or the sunray as my first choices. Hang in there it will all start to click.....;o)

 

[cosmic]

I don't post much but here's my thoughts.. I been using this pattern for a couple years now ..In TTF you have two tones, 18 ferrous and higher is high and 19 and lower is low tone.. There is a 4 tone option, but this works very well.. Just watch the cursor from movement low to high to see if there is a mixed signal from co-located targets..The biggest help with falsing is, disc out 49 and 50 conductive and to set your response to long !! A iron type false will sound the same but a solid signal will be unmistakable.. Another tip is to run wide open and find deep iron.. Then reduce the sensitivity until it breaks up or you lose it.. Run at that..That will make a major difference... You would be amazed at the depth you Will get at 10-15...

 

[trappercnc]

Thank you , Bill , for taking the time to answer my questions. I really appreciate it. You have been most helpful and given me some food for thought that will surely help me next time out. I am hanging in there and not ready to give up yet on the E-Trac!

Thank you too , Cosmic! I have much to learn as this is a different animal than I am used to using!

I think it is great to have this sight and so many good people willing to lend a hand to shorten the learning curve for us "newbies"! Thanks again.

 

[Bill_S]

If you have any more questions don't be afraid to ask. I may not know the answer but there are a lot of people on here with years of experience that will be willing to help.....

 

[Sailorman]

Well I tried this new approach in an old park that has been pounded since the invention of metal detecting (and I'm not kidding!) and is a trash hole. Now the spot I tried is also a spot I myself have hit many times with both my machines and managed some 60's coinage in amongst the boozers Olde English 800 screw caps, pull tabs and iron.

Today I tried your approach with the X-5 in a section I'd finally given up on. No silver (silver is a very rare find around here) but I did snag more good clad out, often right among iron trash. Still got busted by some Old English caps but there is something about that particular one that seems to drive detectors crazy. As soon as I get the chance I'm going to try this on the square nail harvesting site that was an old mansion I know and see what I can do!

 

[Bill_S]

Glad to hear it worked for you Sailroman. Even pulling a few coins from hard hit places is saying something. I went out again today and used it some more and managed to pull some more coins out of the trash too. I dont know why this certain setup seems to work so good but it does for some reason...........

 

[looknforgold]

Bill, what line did you open up at. I use TTF fairly often and it has proved itself to be a great tool when you need it. going to try it with your TPP, Thanks, LFG

 

[cosmic]

Not Bill but 19 and below I believe

 

[pescadore]

Great video ... very informative !!

 

[MNetrac]

Thanks for the helpful video! I couldn't help but fnid myself rooting for one of those pennies to be a silver - felt like you deserved it after going through the effort of making the video! Hope the hunt for deep sliver was fruitful.

 

[elki1052]

Hi Bill, Just to let you know that I've been using your pattern and SUCCESS!!!, yesterday I hit the mother load on a tiny park that I've seen a lot of detectorists including my self, but this time I hunt in an strip area at the end of this park and I find 7 whets the older 1911 and THE NEWEST 1952, a 1908 Liverty neckle, few clad coins, silver pendent, silver earing and a Gold ring, it was my best day ever.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR PROGRAM WITH US!!!!

 

[banditicey]

Hi Bill, Just to let you know that I've been using your pattern and SUCCESS!!!, yesterday I hit the mother load on a tiny park that I've seen a lot of detectorists including my self, but this time I hunt in an strip area at the end of this park and I find 7 whets the older 1911 and THE NEWEST 1952, a 1908 Liverty neckle, few clad coins, silver pendent, silver earing and a Gold ring, it was my best day ever.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR PROGRAM WITH US!!!!

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Please Post your Pictures

 

[elki1052]

Ho bytheway I have not cober the entire strip of the park so I will be coming back to get everything out!
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