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Outlaw Vs Vaquero

allcav said:
Not in this case. Basically when you turn up the threshold, you turn up the base level and it kicks the faint sounds really load. It not amplifying it. I use that word because it is easier to understand it better.

nice to know that, get it.

basically it may again depends also on location and operator. I tell you my story, I used to run my vaquero super tuned until I give a try for experiments on a well-hunted spot by the compadre, this vaquero super tuned and another detector costing almost twice the vaquero, I decided running the vaquero stable making possible to switch modes with my thumb, well on that spot I found a nice gold earring, I later discovered how handy the vco is at detecting hotrocks (I have pleanty of then around here, it drives me nuts!), so that made me change my approach to that machine.

something is true, Tesoro makes great simple machines
 
I know what you meant , in clean ground is the same as on paper, both = your detector is running great and will find the deepest targets.
Super Tuned = you will find deep targets many of then trash some of them good targets, it's all about your ground and how good the detectorist is guys. Les in the UK
 
I enjoy the way this kind of threads end, use what works best for you :)
 
and sterile working environment such as a laboratory, will the Vaquero go deeper than the Outlaw. Please don't bring the coil size in to play, lets say the Vaquero has the 8x9" and the Outlaw has the 8".
I believe that is the question that many people would like answering. Les in the UK
 
Les in the UK said:
and sterile working environment such as a laboratory, will the Vaquero go deeper than the Outlaw. Please don't bring the coil size in to play, lets say the Vaquero has the 8x9" and the Outlaw has the 8".
I believe that is the question that many people would like answering. Les in the UK
I believe that Robert (allcav) says that the Outlaw is not deeper than the Vaquero.
 
Yes I did say this. however I also said how often do you find quarters at 10 1/4". In the best ground, that is what the Outlaw is capable of. If you do not super tune the V, it doesn't go that deep.
I'm starting to think that a field test from Monte is in order before this gets out of hand. :laugh: what do you think.
 
Hi Les in the UK,

Everybody is curious about the OutLaw, but it has not made it out into the general public yet, just a select few testers is what I undestand. The only news I have heard about the OutLaw is Robert's original test and the partial test done by Andy S. So....... until then, It is anyone's guess on the difference of the performance, and features between the "V" or the "O." I called a major distributor about 10 days ago and they were about filled up on pre-orders on the OutLaw, but as of yet none have hit the street. In do time I think Monte will do a full test on this newest offering of Tesoro.
 
There is no need to run the Vac in Super Tune. You can accomplish the same thing by using a set of high quality headphones such as Gray ghost, sun ray, or any of the other equivalent brands. Then you have the use of your all metal mode when ever you need it.
A quality set of headphones, on any detector, will increase your finds many times over. Including in the spots you think you worked out.
 
plidn1 said:
There is no need to run the Vac in Super Tune. You can accomplish the same thing by using a set of high quality headphones such as Gray ghost, sun ray, or any of the other equivalent brands. Then you have the use of your all metal mode when ever you need it.
A quality set of headphones, on any detector, will increase your finds many times over. Including in the spots you think you worked out.

the same here
 
Monte offered his thoughts on the Outlaw and the entire post was deleted. He even said he'd be glad to field test one, but apparently nothing came of that.
 
allcav said:
Super tuning amplifies the audio. This allows the machine to find deeper targets.

What else does it affect? I've spent a fair amount of time with a Cibola testing super tuning and usable threshold and find that high levels of super tuning greatly reduce the ability to discriminate out undesirable targets. It is particularly evident in old farm fields that have lots of deep broken off plow tips, lost bolts, chains and other things that fell off the equipment and got turned under.

Is the Outlaw circuit designed so that super tuning is of no benefit? Similar to the Tejon that does not benefit from super tuning, except that the Outlaw is not based on the H.O.T. platform.
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