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One more Golden uMax Question

SkiWhiz

Active member
I really appreciate everyone's input on my other post about my Golden uMax I just bought. I see what you mean about 4 tones plus 2 more, plus more when some of them mix.

I was wondering if my tones are on track or out of whack, here is what I got when I did air test -

iron - low tone
my white gold wedding band - low tone
nickel - next higher tone
penny & dime next higher tone
quarter - highest tone

I would of thought that pennies & dimes would have the same sound as the quarter.

If I turn my disc. up all the way it knocks out the everything except the quarter, I figured that a dime shouldn't be disc. out even at full disc. setting. Looking forward to everyone's thoughts. Thanks agin! Steve.
 
Iron should give lowest tone, nickel second lowest tone, zinc penny third tone, copper penny, dime and quarter both should give highest tone. I had to adjust my Golden, both ground balance and tone range, with the internal pots as it was ground balanced way too positive and the tones were half a tone range below where they should have been. Dimes and quarters were giving a mix of the two highest tones, nickels were giving a mix of two lowest tones. With it adjusted the way it is now, iron gives low tone, small foil a mix of two lowest tones, nickels and new tabs second lowest tone, old style tabs a mix of second and third tones, zinc pennies and screw caps third tone and copper pennies, dimes and higher coins the highest tone. Depending on size, the gold rings I've check can be from mixed iron/nickel tone to zinc/bottlecap tone.
 
[quote JB(MS)]Iron should give lowest tone, nickel second lowest tone, zinc penny third tone, copper penny, dime and quarter both should give highest tone. I had to adjust my Golden, both ground balance and tone range, with the internal pots as it was ground balanced way too positive and the tones were half a tone range below where they should have been. Dimes and quarters were giving a mix of the two highest tones, nickels were giving a mix of two lowest tones. With it adjusted the way it is now, iron gives low tone, small foil a mix of two lowest tones, nickels and new tabs second lowest tone, old style tabs a mix of second and third tones, zinc pennies and screw caps third tone and copper pennies, dimes and higher coins the highest tone. Depending on size, the gold rings I've check can be from mixed iron/nickel tone to zinc/bottlecap tone.[/quote]
Thanks JB, it looks like I have some adjusting to do. Did you set your ground balance a little positive or neutral. My Golden's ground balance setting is negative for my area. The ground balance adjustment doesn't sound to bad but the tone settings sounds like it might be tricky. I have the diagram of the 2 internal trimmer pots. and know which each one is for. Thanks! Steve.
 
Fun post! Good information!
and it always comes back to the same thing...

Gold rings and the various sizes, shapes, and composition of jewelry will pop up all across almost every ID scheme.:devil:
In my experience, so will the different bits of canslaw and bent and twisted Ptabs.:ranting:

I'd REALLY like a TID that tells me, "Dig a ring HERE," but it doesn't exist.

There's just no substitute for dig 'em all!

Sure sounds like you're having fun with that Golden!
HH
rmptr
 
I set the tone settings by air testing certain coins,etc. I set the ground balance to a slight positive setting. I am off now to hit a few parks and will let you all know how I make out with the adjusted "Steve's way settings" Golden uMax. Thanks! Steve.
 
I just came back from hunting a couple of parks. The Golden uMax worked fine,managed to get a handful of clad coins,one piece of junk jewelry, but man o man the tones are not for me. I thought that I would like the multi tones bit I guess after more than 15 years using single tone detectors I can't make the change. So now I have a nice Golden uMax that is for sale. Any takers, get ahold of me at sprice@premierwireless.us I will sell for more than reasonable price. Thanks all! Steve.
 
You can get the that tone between the iron and nickle by leaving your notch switch to the center and veering the notch width knob and you don't have to go inside the detector. Take you some real small gold and play around with it. Take a nickle and go CCw and then CW and you will see what I am saying. You can very the tones on the lower end targets using the Notch width knob. Not so much with the Zincs and the high tones. Take some ear rings and some of your smaller Gold and play around with it next time it is raining and you got nothing else to do. It will surprise you. Mine is set at about 1 0clock to get the in between tone of iron and nickle on the foil signals and the very small gold. It is a distinct audio and you will be able to recognise it. It is a mix of both indicating a very low conductor target. Your real deep silvers and copper pennies dimes will give you a Zinc with a high tone squeak on the end of the tone. That is what JB was talking about as the eight tone for the higher end targets. Like I said my low in between tone between iron and the nickle is at 1 O'Clock. You will have to play around because they are not in the same place on all the machines. :D: :D: HH Jerry aka Tinfoil.
 
[quote SkiWhiz]I just came back from hunting a couple of parks. The Golden uMax worked fine,managed to get a handful of clad coins,one piece of junk jewelry, but man o man the tones are not for me. I thought that I would like the multi tones bit I guess after more than 15 years using single tone detectors I can't make the change. So now I have a nice Golden uMax that is for sale. Any takers, get ahold of me at sprice@premierwireless.us I will sell for more than reasonable price. Thanks all! Steve.[/quote] I have to hold off on the sale, I am giving the Golden one more try. I readjusted it to have the copper and zinc pennies come in at different tones. I think once I have everything tuned right this time, now it shouldn't sound so much like a bunch of ducks with a sore throat. Thanks! Steve.
 
That made my day:). Actually, that's pretty much how I felt the first few times I used the Golden, but it didn't take long to adjust. Would be nice to have the option of choosing between multitones and a single tone like the Discovery Electronics SST. I sent an SST back today I've been checking out and it allowed choosing between 9 tone, two tone or multitone audio. I thought the 9 tones would be harder to adjust to, and to listen to, than the Golden but they weren't. I still have problems separating the two middle tones on the Golden at times but I had no problem distinguishing all of the tones on the SST. Not knocking the Golden, I really like it and the audio, but Tesoro could have had a little wider separation in the frequencies of the two middle tones:).
 
[quote Tinfoil]You can get the that tone between the iron and nickle by leaving your notch switch to the center and veering the notch width knob and you don't have to go inside the detector. Take you some real small gold and play around with it. Take a nickle and go CCw and then CW and you will see what I am saying. You can very the tones on the lower end targets using the Notch width knob. Not so much with the Zincs and the high tones. Take some ear rings and some of your smaller Gold and play around with it next time it is raining and you got nothing else to do. It will surprise you. Mine is set at about 1 0clock to get the in between tone of iron and nickle on the foil signals and the very small gold. It is a distinct audio and you will be able to recognise it. It is a mix of both indicating a very low conductor target. Your real deep silvers and copper pennies dimes will give you a Zinc with a high tone squeak on the end of the tone. That is what JB was talking about as the eight tone for the higher end targets. Like I said my low in between tone between iron and the nickle is at 1 O'Clock. You will have to play around because they are not in the same place on all the machines. :D: :D: HH Jerry aka Tinfoil.[/quote]

I've never tried to adjust the tone or GB on my Golden. Also, what is CCw and CW? Can you explain how you are re-setting the tones different. I've heard you can do this by adjusting certain pots on the board. Also explain how to set the GB on the Golden. Thanks, TonyTX
 
[quote TonyTX(MXT)][quote Tinfoil]You can get the that tone between the iron and nickle by leaving your notch switch to the center and veering the notch width knob and you don't have to go inside the detector. Take you some real small gold and play around with it. Take a nickle and go CCw and then CW and you will see what I am saying. You can very the tones on the lower end targets using the Notch width knob. Not so much with the Zincs and the high tones. Take some ear rings and some of your smaller Gold and play around with it next time it is raining and you got nothing else to do. It will surprise you. Mine is set at about 1 0clock to get the in between tone of iron and nickle on the foil signals and the very small gold. It is a distinct audio and you will be able to recognise it. It is a mix of both indicating a very low conductor target. Your real deep silvers and copper pennies dimes will give you a Zinc with a high tone squeak on the end of the tone. That is what JB was talking about as the eight tone for the higher end targets. Like I said my low in between tone between iron and the nickle is at 1 O'Clock. You will have to play around because they are not in the same place on all the machines. :D: :D: HH Jerry aka Tinfoil.[/quote]

I've never tried to adjust the tone or GB on my Golden. Also, what is CCw and CW? Can you explain how you are re-setting the tones different. I've heard you can do this by adjusting certain pots on the board. Also explain how to set the GB on the Golden. Thanks, TonyTX[/quote] CCW is counter clock wise & CW is clock wise. Here you can see how to set the ground balance on the Golden uMax http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,643296,page=2
 
And turning the Notch Width Clockwise ( turning knob to the right) or Counter clockwise ( turning the knob to the left. You have to play around with it till you find the inbetween tone. You have to use small gold to do it or some small tinfoil targets. I just don't know how else I can explain it. :D: :D: HH Jerry aka Tinfoil.
 
Cool... Thanks. I'll have to give it a try! Lot's of good advice on the Tesoro Forum :clapping: HH TonyTX :)
 
Gosh Ski, don't get MAD at that poor little Golden!
Just work with it a while and you'll be happy... or NOT!

It's like the old huntin' dog thing...

If you love your dog, set him free.
If he returns, you got a friend for life.
If he doesn't return,
Hunt him down and kill him!

...A duck with a sore throat...
Now that's funny, right there, I don't care who yah are!

...That's the ONLY noise my 1280-X makes...

HH
rmptr
 
[quote rmptr]Gosh Ski, don't get MAD at that poor little Golden!
Just work with it a while and you'll be happy... or NOT!

It's like the old huntin' dog thing...

If you love your dog, set him free.
If he returns, you got a friend for life.
If he doesn't return,
Hunt him down and kill him!

...A duck with a sore throat...
Now that's funny, right there, I don't care who yah are!

...That's the ONLY noise my 1280-X makes...

HH
rmptr[/quote] Nah I never get mad, I am going to try it again tomorrow if it doesn't rain. I readjusted the internal tone trimmer & hope that it soothes the sore throat of the duck. I thought that the Ace I had honked alot but the Golden honks and quacks at the same time. At least with the 1280-X you can take it under water to quiet it down ;). Steve.
 
Thanks for the link Corteser, but it will probably go too high for my budget. Me and the Golden's tones are not getting along so well. I have it listed in this forum. I will most likely go back to the tried and true Silver uMax. I have it listed for $325.00 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?44,699484 but if anyone wants it in the next little while I will let it go for $300.00 shipped to there door. Thanks! Steve.
 
[quote SkiWhiz]Thanks for the link Corteser, but it will probably go too high for my budget. Me and the Golden's tones are not getting along so well. I have it listed in this forum. I will most likely go back to the tried and true Silver uMax. I have it listed for $325.00 http://www.findmall.com/read.php?44,699484 but if anyone wants it in the next little while I will let it go for $300.00 shipped to there door. Thanks! Steve.[/quote]


Hey Steve that is an awesome price! I am sorry to hear the Golden did not work out for you. I have heard very good things about the Silver. I hope it all works out for you, Beale.
 
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