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Omega 8000 vs T2
- Thread starter all iron
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The trigger, the stock coil and the frequency. The omega can notch and the t2 can't.
If you buy the 11 inch DD coil for the omega, there really isn't much of a difference except frequency, the t2 is higher.
I have both and love them both but if I were FORCED to get rid of one, it would have to be the t2 because of the notching ability of the omega.
If you buy the 11 inch DD coil for the omega, there really isn't much of a difference except frequency, the t2 is higher.
I have both and love them both but if I were FORCED to get rid of one, it would have to be the t2 because of the notching ability of the omega.
lafatlife said:
If they were to combine the best features of the T2 LTD and the Omega they'd almost have the perfect machine
lafatife I find it interesting that if forced to choose between the T2 & O8 that you'd pick the O8 due to the notching. I take it that if both machines are using the 11" DD you feel their equal in depth?
reltolbert
New member
I can swing the Omega 8000 with the 5"DD coil all day which is great in trash
areas and I always find coins and I'm 66 years old. So, if I can swing it all day
then anybody can do the same. Light weight detector.
areas and I always find coins and I'm 66 years old. So, if I can swing it all day
then anybody can do the same. Light weight detector.
Teknetics T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] Vs Omega 8000 are very close, in some ways, yet a bit different in others. Here are some basic differences:
Operating Frequency: T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] is 13 kHz and the Omega 8000 is 7.8 kHz.
Battery System: T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] is 4-AA alkaline batteries and the Omega 8000 uses 1-9V alkaline battery.
Ground Balance Differences: Both the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and Omega 8000 feature the quick "auto-balance" with the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] trigger-activated called Fast Grab and the Omega 8000 touch-pad activated method called Ground Grab. Different name, but the same function.
The main difference for me comes when I want to make a manual Ground Cancel adjustment as theT[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] requires switching to the All Metal mode and then menuing to the GC adjustment which the Omega 8000 can be manually adjusted in either the All Metal auto-tune mode or in the motion Discriminate mode.
An additional 'difference' is that when making a manual CG change, there are 5 'steps" between one whole number and the next with the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] while there are 10 "steps" between whole numbers with the Omega 8000. In some applications this will provide a little more "fine tuning" with the Omega 8000.
Numeric VDI read-Out: Both the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and Omega 8000 provide excellent VDI numeric read-out.
Graphic TID Read-Out: The T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] has adequate Target ID for most "Coin hunters" and will give a pretty decent lock-on with mainly shallower coins, while the Omega 8000 seems to provide a much better coin-based and common trash Target ID with their segments. Probably a little better for most "Coin hunting" applications IF you're quite dependant on visual TID.
Search Coil Options: As we know, quite a few hobbyists seem to really like the 11" BiAxial DD coil which is standard on the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup], and many have found it to appeal to them on the Omega 8000 as well. However, while I personally like it for certain applications, such as where I favor a T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and on occasion grabbing an Omega 8000 with the 11" mounted, the Omega 8000, like the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] can also use an excellent 5" DD coil for very trashy and/or confined spaces. Still, the Omega 8000 has two coils not available for the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup], to include the very nice 10" concentric wound elliptical coil that is 'standard, as well as the 8" round concentric coil that comes on the Alpha, Delta and Gamma models.
Weight & Balance: I like both the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and Omega 8000 more than most any other detector on the market, but I find the Omega 8000 to be slightly lighter and a little better balanced of the two models.
Discriminating Differences; The two models have somewhat different rejection levels for the same sample targets, but that's fine as we learn each model. One "feature" or "function" that does attract some day-to-day coin hunters is the ability for the Omega 8000 to employ "Notch Discrimination." That feature is not found on the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup].
Certainly there are other small differences, but these are basically the ones that seem to strike me as more 'different' from one model to the other.
I own both models. I like both models. I favor the Omega 8000 most of all, however, due to the weight, maneuverability, and the 3-coil options, combined with the types of hunting I do the most, I tend to grab my Omega 8000 most of the time, usually with either the stock 10" concentric or 5" DD coil. Site environment makes the choice difference.
Monte
Operating Frequency: T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] is 13 kHz and the Omega 8000 is 7.8 kHz.
Battery System: T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] is 4-AA alkaline batteries and the Omega 8000 uses 1-9V alkaline battery.
Ground Balance Differences: Both the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and Omega 8000 feature the quick "auto-balance" with the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] trigger-activated called Fast Grab and the Omega 8000 touch-pad activated method called Ground Grab. Different name, but the same function.
The main difference for me comes when I want to make a manual Ground Cancel adjustment as theT[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] requires switching to the All Metal mode and then menuing to the GC adjustment which the Omega 8000 can be manually adjusted in either the All Metal auto-tune mode or in the motion Discriminate mode.
An additional 'difference' is that when making a manual CG change, there are 5 'steps" between one whole number and the next with the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] while there are 10 "steps" between whole numbers with the Omega 8000. In some applications this will provide a little more "fine tuning" with the Omega 8000.
Numeric VDI read-Out: Both the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and Omega 8000 provide excellent VDI numeric read-out.
Graphic TID Read-Out: The T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] has adequate Target ID for most "Coin hunters" and will give a pretty decent lock-on with mainly shallower coins, while the Omega 8000 seems to provide a much better coin-based and common trash Target ID with their segments. Probably a little better for most "Coin hunting" applications IF you're quite dependant on visual TID.
Search Coil Options: As we know, quite a few hobbyists seem to really like the 11" BiAxial DD coil which is standard on the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup], and many have found it to appeal to them on the Omega 8000 as well. However, while I personally like it for certain applications, such as where I favor a T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and on occasion grabbing an Omega 8000 with the 11" mounted, the Omega 8000, like the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] can also use an excellent 5" DD coil for very trashy and/or confined spaces. Still, the Omega 8000 has two coils not available for the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup], to include the very nice 10" concentric wound elliptical coil that is 'standard, as well as the 8" round concentric coil that comes on the Alpha, Delta and Gamma models.
Weight & Balance: I like both the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] and Omega 8000 more than most any other detector on the market, but I find the Omega 8000 to be slightly lighter and a little better balanced of the two models.
Discriminating Differences; The two models have somewhat different rejection levels for the same sample targets, but that's fine as we learn each model. One "feature" or "function" that does attract some day-to-day coin hunters is the ability for the Omega 8000 to employ "Notch Discrimination." That feature is not found on the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup].
Certainly there are other small differences, but these are basically the ones that seem to strike me as more 'different' from one model to the other.
I own both models. I like both models. I favor the Omega 8000 most of all, however, due to the weight, maneuverability, and the 3-coil options, combined with the types of hunting I do the most, I tend to grab my Omega 8000 most of the time, usually with either the stock 10" concentric or 5" DD coil. Site environment makes the choice difference.
Monte
Jackpine Savage
Active member
Besides what has already been mentioned the T2s' tone options are tied to different signal processing modes while the Omega seemingly uses the same type of signal processing regardless of the number of tones selected. Also, the Omega's ability to use both concentric and DD coils gives the user the ability to tailor it a bit more to conditions giving better signal responses on certain types/depths of targets.
Lest we forget, the Omega is "quieter in iron" and thats a good thing... for most intents and purposes.
If the Omega had an all metal trigger switch it would be nearer to perfection for me. Not a big issue but only for the fact that everything else is near perfection.
Tom
Lest we forget, the Omega is "quieter in iron" and thats a good thing... for most intents and purposes.
If the Omega had an all metal trigger switch it would be nearer to perfection for me. Not a big issue but only for the fact that everything else is near perfection.
Tom
Thanks for some excellent insights, Monte.
One more insight, if you don't mind. You said the Omega had 10 steps between each manual GB number and the T2 had 5 steps which would provide more fine tuning for the Omega. As much as the the ground matrix changes from sweep to sweep, I would think that would be a difference that's functionally insignificant in real world hunting conditions. With what applications would you want that extra fine tuning?
One more insight, if you don't mind. You said the Omega had 10 steps between each manual GB number and the T2 had 5 steps which would provide more fine tuning for the Omega. As much as the the ground matrix changes from sweep to sweep, I would think that would be a difference that's functionally insignificant in real world hunting conditions. With what applications would you want that extra fine tuning?
Yes, many sites might seem 'insignificant', especially if you were constantly tracking and adjusting. That's true. However, I hunt in some locations where I do like to "fine tune" a manual Ground Balance/Ground Cancel setting for various reasons. Maybe to deal with certain 'hot rocks,' or when I am working in some nasty black sand area, and there can be more. While it's not a big deal for many or even most hobbyists, there are some who like to know the subtle differences between these two models and that's why I posted it.marcomo said:
Note that BOTH of these models will "fine tune" better than most of the competition out there so they each have an advantage over the competition.
I missed a few things, of course, such as the T[sup][size=small]2[/size][/sup] does allow the operator to select the Sensitivity setting for each independent operating mode while the Omega has one Sensitivity control.
So many little differences that might or might-not appeal to so many of us, but the beauty is that they are both well-equipped model that can perform quite well.
Monte
johnnybegood
New member
You might want to look at the T2 limited or "special edition" as for it has a boost mode and a cache mode.If i had to choose between the both i would get the t2 special edition...Super deep detector..
Cal_Cobra said:lafatlife said:
If they were to combine the best features of the T2 LTD and the Omega they'd almost have the perfect machine
lafatife I find it interesting that if forced to choose between the T2 & O8 that you'd pick the O8 due to the notching. I take it that if both machines are using the 11" DD you feel their equal in depth?
Yes they are close in depth with the 11" DD on both of them. The target depth reading is a little off on the O8 with the larger coil. The targets tend to be a little deeper than what is reported.
otlew said:
For me that is a tough question. I have had 3 shoulder surgeries so I wind up switching arms during my hunts unless I am digging a lot. Even though the T2 weighs more than the omega, it is so well balanced that you don't noticed the difference in the weight.
Both can be used for several hours without fatigue.
But I see that you have already ordered an Omega. You won't be disappointed I promise you that. Let it speak to you and learn it's language and you will be getting better finds than some of the people with much more expensive machines!!
Good luck and happy hunting!
[/quote] For me that is a tough question. I have had 3 shoulder surgeries so I wind up switching arms during my hunts unless I am digging a lot. Even though the T2 weighs more than the omega, it is so well balanced that you don't noticed the difference in the weight.
Both can be used for several hours without fatigue.
But I see that you have already ordered an Omega. You won't be disappointed I promise you that. Let it speak to you and learn it's language and you will be getting better finds than some of the people with much more expensive machines!!
Good luck and happy hunting![/quote]
Thanks,
Considering your shoulder your opinion is valued. I read one post where Dave Johnson the Chief Designer for First Texas Products said the Omega is his personal favorite, along with some other positive comments (and price to be honest) I decided on the Omega. I will let it speak to me, my wife is not reluctant to give me a good talking to, so I am used to being spoken to.
Both can be used for several hours without fatigue.
But I see that you have already ordered an Omega. You won't be disappointed I promise you that. Let it speak to you and learn it's language and you will be getting better finds than some of the people with much more expensive machines!!
Good luck and happy hunting![/quote]
Thanks,
Considering your shoulder your opinion is valued. I read one post where Dave Johnson the Chief Designer for First Texas Products said the Omega is his personal favorite, along with some other positive comments (and price to be honest) I decided on the Omega. I will let it speak to me, my wife is not reluctant to give me a good talking to, so I am used to being spoken to.
I had a garrett 2500 and loved that machine but after I hurt my shoulder I just couldn't swing it anymore. Last year I went through a few detectors and chanced upon the Omega. It was a wonderful thing!! The machine was amazing and I understood what it was telling me. I had a safari and it blew me away. I just couldn't stand all the constant beeping over every little piece of metal. I like to detect because it is relaxing to me. I don't like getting frustrated with a machine and just go home.
The omega as well as the t2 are both great machines but as I said earlier if forced to give up one, it would be the t2 mostly because of the notching feature of the omega.
The omega as well as the t2 are both great machines but as I said earlier if forced to give up one, it would be the t2 mostly because of the notching feature of the omega.