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Night hunting???:goodnight:
- Thread starter metalmedic
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metalmedic
Member
Amen!
D-Tex said:
mudpuppy said:Hmmm...never once had any problem out at night checking or setting traps...'course, I've been at it since I was 13..so thats only 40 yrs or so of experience talking here..and that includes some year round work as a damage control contractor in 3 States...when I was young, a guy had to check traps before school, skin flesh and stretch, and I just carried that pattern on through...anyway, theres not a leg hold made that is gonna hurt a guy by "stepping in it", maybe a bear trap? not even a #4 or #5 double long spring would grab a guys foot?, I trapped smaller things..like beaver, rats, raccoon, coyotes, 'cats, fox, mink...etc....largest traps that MAY have posed any danger to me were 220 and 330 conibears...but setting them is all muscle memory after a while....snares are the ticket, no danger at all, and a guy can carry alot of them, still, to be a responsible and profitable trapper, you gotta go check asap, every day, which means in the dark, all sorts of weather, no excuses...yes, I have fallen through the ice plenty of times, no harm done, but that seems to be the thing that will kill a guy quickest out checking traps at night or day, my greatest fear was getting up on a moose in a beaver swamp and getting stomped down into the mud, black bears always run away, I never carried a firearm on the trapline, just a club...so I was very quiet and invisible, just like I try to be while detecting...falling through the ice and not being able to get back out in a hurry is probably the big thing..
To get back on topic, night hunting on the beach is easy...you just scoop up the ping and pop it in your pouch and keep hunting..you have a good idea what the ping is by the tones and feel of it...the bummer about only hunting when theres a "good breeze blowing", means its an onshore breeze, and that means big surf and rips, nearly impossible and very unsafe to hunt...the best days are when theres an offshore breeze, the water is flat and easy to hunt, but at sun-up the biting flies come pouring out of the dunes and tear a guy up..I doubt you know any sensible trappers, or any trappers at all, so dont jump up and talk smack...some of us working men cant afford to hunt all day in the bright sunshine like you obviously do, with a butler along to hold an umbrella, carry water, and scoop your finds for you! But, I guess what ever makes you happy, to each his own..
Mud
My my - you sure sound like a "know it all - done it all" although your sarcasm at the end of your tale does bespell complete ignorance.
I can live with that just by laughing at such an attitude
skookum
Yeah, Skookum, Sorry about that Man, I felt bad about it later..got carried away...I was only really good at one thing in my life, and that was trapping, so I felt I had a little something interesting to offer regarding being out at Night....
In reality, you are right, no sensible person would attempt to hunt for most anything at night if they can do it in the daytime....I dont know you or your circumstances or experiences in Life, I do wish you a good one though!
MarkCZ, that is one great offer you made to your Forum brothers that want to give night hunting a go!!
Mud.
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In reality, you are right, no sensible person would attempt to hunt for most anything at night if they can do it in the daytime....I dont know you or your circumstances or experiences in Life, I do wish you a good one though!
MarkCZ, that is one great offer you made to your Forum brothers that want to give night hunting a go!!
Mud.
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OK, everybodies cool again! 
The problem is, theres not enough light in one day for all we want (or have to) do! So It stands to reason we have to align ourselves with hobbies that we can do in the off dark hours...when nobody notices we are gone!
I cant be out in the sun, my skin doctor carves me up like a Christmas goose every so often, looks like I lost a knife fight with Edward Scissorhands!...so hunting before sun up or on overcast days is perfect for me.
Mud.
The problem is, theres not enough light in one day for all we want (or have to) do! So It stands to reason we have to align ourselves with hobbies that we can do in the off dark hours...when nobody notices we are gone!
I cant be out in the sun, my skin doctor carves me up like a Christmas goose every so often, looks like I lost a knife fight with Edward Scissorhands!...so hunting before sun up or on overcast days is perfect for me.
Mud.
MarkCZ
Well-known member
Skookum, in that one post you seemed to have came across direct and harsh, sort of like you may have been cranked up over something and was a little short with anyone that disagreed with you. Your views are valid ones and should be considered. But if you've got an open soccer field and a couple of detecting buddies then maybe for the heck of it get together for maybe a little late evening hunt until maybe a couple of hours after dark, in the mid summer heat it can be a bit refreshing, just a thought?
The first few times I hunted at night it was, well Different! Odd, wasn't sure if I should be even doing it! And there have been areas where I started to but then changed my mine.
Metal detecting is for the normal thought of as a daylight hobby and in almost all places it is, but there is some places were it can be pulled off safely. I always have several different smaller types of lights and I use them as NEEDED! being one, or sometimes two at a time.
Jogging/running/brisk walking at night to me would seem to be more of a threat than metal detecting, your somewhat fast pace, your pretty high stepping, so tripping, stumbling, twisting an ankle is more likely.
Metal detecting is or for me a MUCH slower pace, the slow swings of the detector coil can act as a bit of an alert to something in front of you (a blind persons waling stick), but I've never hunted in such darkness that objects that near I couldn't see at lest its outline.
Late fall, early spring when the weather is cooler the benefits of hunting at night is not as much.
If I was going to maybe advise someone who is thinking about trying some night hunting I might suggest that they try a few EARY before daylight hunts to get the feel of it, or maybe try a couple of late evening hunts starting a couple of hours before dark and planning on staying maybe a couple of hours after dark. This would give a person a good feel for it, it would also help them to determine the equipment they may need. Other than that you may want to move a little slower than you normally do, work more open areas where for the most part your focus is downward. If your not hunting for deep silver then you could also consider the use of earbuds instead of headphones that way you can hear more of what's going on around you.
And NEVER make use of the night (darkness) to access private or posted property!! its tempting, but don't do it!
Mark
The first few times I hunted at night it was, well Different! Odd, wasn't sure if I should be even doing it! And there have been areas where I started to but then changed my mine.
Metal detecting is for the normal thought of as a daylight hobby and in almost all places it is, but there is some places were it can be pulled off safely. I always have several different smaller types of lights and I use them as NEEDED! being one, or sometimes two at a time.
Jogging/running/brisk walking at night to me would seem to be more of a threat than metal detecting, your somewhat fast pace, your pretty high stepping, so tripping, stumbling, twisting an ankle is more likely.
Metal detecting is or for me a MUCH slower pace, the slow swings of the detector coil can act as a bit of an alert to something in front of you (a blind persons waling stick), but I've never hunted in such darkness that objects that near I couldn't see at lest its outline.
Late fall, early spring when the weather is cooler the benefits of hunting at night is not as much.
If I was going to maybe advise someone who is thinking about trying some night hunting I might suggest that they try a few EARY before daylight hunts to get the feel of it, or maybe try a couple of late evening hunts starting a couple of hours before dark and planning on staying maybe a couple of hours after dark. This would give a person a good feel for it, it would also help them to determine the equipment they may need. Other than that you may want to move a little slower than you normally do, work more open areas where for the most part your focus is downward. If your not hunting for deep silver then you could also consider the use of earbuds instead of headphones that way you can hear more of what's going on around you.
And NEVER make use of the night (darkness) to access private or posted property!! its tempting, but don't do it!
Mark
fowlercharles
Member
Hi Fellers, I'm glad that I don't recall reading one mention of "Fire Ants." Snakes, skeeters and even wasps can be a real pain at night but believe me, one Fire Ant Bed (they aren't always bedded) will give you a brand new outlook on detecting at night. Summertime of course, and it is good that many of you do not have them to contend with. They are bad enough during daytime! HH, Charlie
MarkCZ
Well-known member
Well, I got back in a little while ago from my first after dark hunting this year.
I was at our local city park,
I was using my Tejon (detector mounted light and my headband light)
I started around 5:00pm and hunted until 10:40pm.
No snakes,
Didn't get mugged,
Didn't fall in any holes,
Didn't trip on any falling limbs,
I did use a tad of OFF bug spray,
Metal detecting at night I noticed that I kind of Low Step (almost dragging my feet) the pace is also SLOW! the ground was easy to see with only the detector mounted headlight, I only used the headband light to see to dig and retrieve targets.
I was also by myself.
Coin total tonight for the park was pretty good, 31 total coins,
A good bit of trash,
It was very peaceful out,
Its was cool,
The detector worked well with reduced EMI.
Out at evening and in the transition from daylight to dark your eyes has plenty of time to adjust to the changing light.
Our park has a jogging/walking track around its outskirts and I just fit right in with the people that was enjoying walking their dogs, walking and some were even jogging and they were just carrying small flashlights. Most of those folks cleared out by 10:30pm I could have easily stayed a couple more hours without any problems at all.
Also, being there a couple of hours before dark gave me plenty time to get comfortable with the terrain and the overall condition, which was nice!
Night hunting it seems isn't for everyone.
Its not for everyplace either.
But, its not really near as bad as some "Think" it would if done in the right place.
Good Night!
HH
Mark
I was at our local city park,
I was using my Tejon (detector mounted light and my headband light)
I started around 5:00pm and hunted until 10:40pm.
No snakes,
Didn't get mugged,
Didn't fall in any holes,
Didn't trip on any falling limbs,
I did use a tad of OFF bug spray,
Metal detecting at night I noticed that I kind of Low Step (almost dragging my feet) the pace is also SLOW! the ground was easy to see with only the detector mounted headlight, I only used the headband light to see to dig and retrieve targets.
I was also by myself.
Coin total tonight for the park was pretty good, 31 total coins,
A good bit of trash,
It was very peaceful out,
Its was cool,
The detector worked well with reduced EMI.
Out at evening and in the transition from daylight to dark your eyes has plenty of time to adjust to the changing light.
Our park has a jogging/walking track around its outskirts and I just fit right in with the people that was enjoying walking their dogs, walking and some were even jogging and they were just carrying small flashlights. Most of those folks cleared out by 10:30pm I could have easily stayed a couple more hours without any problems at all.
Also, being there a couple of hours before dark gave me plenty time to get comfortable with the terrain and the overall condition, which was nice!
Night hunting it seems isn't for everyone.
Its not for everyplace either.
But, its not really near as bad as some "Think" it would if done in the right place.
Good Night!
HH
Mark
MarkCZ
Well-known member
Cleaning up my finds and sorting the trash I came across one interesting find, probably for the most part worthless.
Its an ink pen cap! it was deep enough to be in the pre 1950 period.
Its looks to be maybe a mix of gold leaf and gold plating, with some kind of inlays outlined with the gold leaf to form a flower pattern.
For just a cap its pretty heavy @ 12.3grams.
Somebody went to some trouble to make this pen.
I know I stated gold, but it could be something else, but for it to shine all I did was wash it off, I didn't polish it.
Whatever the flowers are made of its not paint! nor plastic!
My other items were,
Two larger pieces of Iron,
a couple of pull & Toss tabs,
and the most was aluminum screw caps!
I only had two crown caps.
Mark
Its an ink pen cap! it was deep enough to be in the pre 1950 period.
Its looks to be maybe a mix of gold leaf and gold plating, with some kind of inlays outlined with the gold leaf to form a flower pattern.
For just a cap its pretty heavy @ 12.3grams.
Somebody went to some trouble to make this pen.
I know I stated gold, but it could be something else, but for it to shine all I did was wash it off, I didn't polish it.
Whatever the flowers are made of its not paint! nor plastic!
My other items were,
Two larger pieces of Iron,
a couple of pull & Toss tabs,
and the most was aluminum screw caps!
I only had two crown caps.
Mark
metalmedic
Member
Whew! I glad to hear you survived!! Interesting pen...even more interesting if it turns out to be gold.