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New scoop from Reilly's................................

UPS came to day with a scoop that my family bought me for my birthday. The scoop is great but I'm really disappointed in the weld job. I've bought scoops from them before. This the first time this has happened.
What do you think?
 
You really don't need to worry about those welds. Cosmetically it would look better with a continuous weld. It would also be a little stronger. But the intermittent lap weld will not cause you any issues unless you use your scoop like a pickaxe. That weld is by design and not a quality defect.
 
Guess you're right John. Got a reply back from Reilly's and they say that's the way they weld it. Said it will last forever. I'll be giving it a good work out this week.

HH Randy
 
Stitch welds, when welding long runs they prevent warping of the material due to heat build up, and sometimes filled in afterwards.
 
I agree that the welds there will last as long as the scoop, BUT as someone who spent the past 35 years where the welds we made had to hold extreme amounts of pressure I would not be proud of that quality of weld. With the stitch weld it is easy for cracks to start at the ends of the welds and keep cracking over time if they do. The open areas between the weld will collect water and trash between the two pieces, if not washed out well may cause corrosion over the years.Here is a pic. from one of my scoops, you may have to over look the paint I put on it last year, but you can see a big difference in the weld Quality. I fully understand that if less welding products and less labor is used it brings the price of the scoop down, so you give up quality for low cost. Just my 2 cents worth.

A CLEAN CONTINUOUS WELD NO OPEN AREAS TO COLLECT TRASH
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grahamp said:
Stitch welds, when welding long runs they prevent warping of the material due to heat build up, and sometimes filled in afterwards.

Yep

Its perfectly fine, nothing to worry about bud:thumbup:
 
n/t
 
Well, regardless of the fact that that's the way they weld it, I would get somebody to weld that bead all the way across. With the amount of abuse these things take, I think the stronger the weld, the better. I have two scoops that I have had to have re-welded for the very same reason.
 
I just think that someone dropped the ball on this scoop. I know they stand behind their scoops and will repair them if they break. I'm sure if I wanted to send it back in they would take care of it. I know my sister paid over $200.00 for the scoop. I just thought the quality of work wasn't up to par compared to the other scoops I've bought from them. Like Joe said, I wouldn't be proud of the weld job that was done.

HH randy
 
If you ask me the welds don't appear from the photo's to have that much penetration, a little cold lap on a few edges, it's not a standard of tig welding that would be passed by most of the fabricators I supply over here.
I think you could get a better weld from a synergic pulse mig at around 100 amps, and have a continuous weld without any distortion worries.

In photo 1, the weld is actually bridging a gap, now there aint no strength in a gap, all the stress is passed directly into the weld bead itself, me thinks the fabrication and fit-up should be to a smaller tolerence than that.

Just my 2 pennies worth
 
We are the manufacturers of Reilly's Treasured Gold's scoops. We stand 100% behind our scoops. If they break you send it into our shop to get fixed. This scoop is how we have been building stainless scoops for the past 15 years now, stitch welded on the brace. Our aluminum scoops are welded completely on the top. Stainless is different. The scoop that is in the photo has a 2 warranty on it also. No one has mentioned this on the forum and no one reads our descriptions that well. Anyway any problem with our RTG scoops we will fix it.
Thank you, Kevin Reilly (owner)
 
I agree,

Have the welds finished because the aluminum will flex constantly even if you can't see it or feel it. With the long handle on the scoop the leverage you can get is extreme on the bucket. So the ends of the stitch welds will become the weak link. And leverge will always find the weak link on aluminum because of the flexing. Stitch welds work better on stainless and regular steel because of warping.
 
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