Thanks DigDog, I'm getting use to the vdi's I have the gold kruzer ( awesome machine) it's on the 0-99 scale , the legend has so much fine tune adjustments , it's gonna take a while to pull it all together , I'm gonna start knocking on some doors to get better hunting grounds , but yeah the 6" is deeper than my pulse will go on some targets, I dug a few deep pennies nothing to old , and the frequency shift on the fly is cool , first hunt with it was pretty good , and the wireless headphones was great , they will come in handy in the thick brush with no cord to snag , but I will have to come up with a cover for the coil. And I added a koosie over the control box with a pocket warmer to keep it running smooth in the cold air , I like it alot