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New Fisher CZ Unit

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earthmansurfer

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I'm not sure if you all have heard about the new CZ that will hopefully be released late this year or there abouts. It isn't advertised and it's better I don't say who said it, but it comes from a reliable person and I don't think it's actually a big secret per say.

Anyway, I wonder what you CZ users are looking forward to seeing. I bet they still might make some changes so now might be the time to let them know. I am currently using an E-Trac and would love a lighter unit that cuts into iron mineralized ground as well.

The one thing I really hope they do is make it work outside of the US market, meaning not high toning in the Nickel range (just have a Neutral or Foreign coin mode).

Hopefully the weight is down, great backlight and some form of detailed VID or 2D screen would be nice, if not a patent issue.

Looking forward Fisher,
Albert in Germany
 
Well Dave, I have said it before, we love our CZs. I like this rumor better than some of the others though. Keep that boss happy.

Don
HH
 
The GB/G2 expresses a lot of my personal philosophy about what makes a good metal detector, not that there aren't other ways to make a good metal detector. Although designed with world markets in mind (no target icons indicating US coinage, no "notch" system), the GB/G2 machines have been well received in the USA. ......I see people in this thread asking for light weight (and implicitly good ergonomics): with the intro of the T2 several years ago we became the undisputed industry leader in ergonomics. We have under development new approaches to displaying the character of the target, no comment on what those approaches are, sorry! Double-D loops have their advantages and disadvantages, but my preference runs strongly toward the DD's in higher end products.

All that provides clues to some of what you'll likely see coming from El Paso in the future. Good stuff, whether or not it has anything to do with a "CZ rumor".

--Dave J.
 
What a blast to have Dave J. here!

Looking forward to that new way of displaying the character of the target! :clapping:
 
I never liked icons and have never used notching on any detectors I have had that had it so the GB/G2 model is cool with me.

Would love to see, if the unit is a dual frequency machine like the CZ, the ability to run in single frequency mode with either ( using the CZ as an example) 5 Khz or 15 Khz. Something similar to what the DFX has as options when it comes to running frequencies. Also, an 8 inch round, water proof DD as an option !

Tell you one thing...you guys hit it right with the Gold Bug and how it can ground balance in wet, salt sand. It's the best, single, higher frequency machine I have ever used in those conditions. Runs super smooth there ( at least all the beaches I hunted with it here in NJ) and can be used in heavily iron laden areas. I had it on a beach in Atlantic City NJ which is known for all the small and large iron and I pulled silver coins and gold outta that mess. Glad I had the GB Se that day ! Now only if it was waterproof ( HINT HINT ).

Can't wait to see what comes out.
 
New approaches to target character? That should be interesting based upon what is already out there.

We've got histographs, spectographs, and signagraphs,
We've got TID, VDI, and Segments,
We've got ferrous and conductive plots,
We've got bells, rings, saturated, proportional, and tone roll audio,
We've got polar plots, sizing graphs, and bars,
We've got sizing, depth, and intensity
We've got meters, readouts, dashboards, and graphs.

Looking forward to a WOW!.

HH
Mike
 
The ancients named gold-and-silver alloy "electrum" in prophetic visionary anticipation of the day that Fisher introduces a model with your proposed user interface feature.
 
I have GP with the 11 coil and I'm heading to the beach for the first time with it. I can't wait!

As for a new land CZ, here what I'd like to see:

Get the machine as light wieght as possible. If you can waterproof it, great, but I'd rather have lighter weight.

Include a frequency for around 6-8 kHz on top of the low and high kHz already used so we get better hits on coins, or adjust the processor inside the machine accordingly.

Keep the multiple tones. 3 is fine by me.

Tweak it as best you can for depth on coins, like the CZ-3D is designed to do.


Thats my wish list.
 
I just can't wait to get this electrifying, shocking machine!!----It'll make me a WONDERFUL Christmas present!!! ;)
 
Dave, with the new advances in the Iphones and other hand held devices, I see some unbelievable stuff coming down the road, I just hope I live long enough to see and use some of it and the ground is still free to dig, good luck on what ever you think up and the market treat you good :)
 
Lots of different namelabels for what is Visual ID with rather limited telltales of the object found.

VS..

Tone ID and the possibilities to read information and nuances in the sound by the human ear.

Fished done very well with the GB/G2 sound nuances and I hope they will continue on that road, maybe with a user selectable modulation potentiometer and iron volume potentiometer. Or rather below tonebreak volume potentiometer.

One thing that no one has done yet with visual ID is to give you a visual of the sound nuances in a graphic of some sort together with the ID nr. With todays fine electronics it must be possible to get a digital readout of the nuances sent to the sound channel. A graphic with lots of information in one " symbol "
 
Heck a 1-100 screen would do it for me and have used CZ's for 20 years...

On the downside understand it would be cost inefficient to produce a new version and well the new Fisher has flooded the market with different versions of the F series and like units and honestly if anything can see the CZ getting discontinued not updated...
 
Caretaker me said:
Dave, with the new advances in the Iphones and other hand held devices, I see some unbelievable stuff coming down the road, I just hope I live long enough to see and use some of it and the ground is still free to dig, good luck on what ever you think up and the market treat you good :)
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Great point. I definitely foresee a manufacturer NOT including a screen but having Blue Tooth or some other connectivity to an android phone or the like. This would also allow people to write code to interact with the base unit - sort of like an app store for a detector (if they allowed). I tell you know, whoever does this will have a big advantage on their hands. For one, free developers working for them. Something along these lines is bound to happen and I do know that one company with the smartphone connectivity exists. Look up the Rover detector (not that it is good but it does what I mean to a point.)

I really look forward to a CZ having a new numbering system, sort of giving the same functionality as an E-Trac does - meaning one set of numbers being indicative of depth or colocation with iron (Fe number on E-Trac). Clearly an advantage there, especially if you don't have the best ears! (Which really amounts to time with your machine, but we all don't have that.)

I absolutely love my E-Trac now, after only 2 months, but my back can't handle another year of swinging it.
 
bfodnes, I like your idea!

One thing that no one has done yet with visual ID is to give you a visual of the sound nuances in a graphic of some sort together with the ID nr. With todays fine electronics it must be possible to get a digital readout of the nuances sent to the sound channel. A graphic with lots of information in one " symbol "

You could get a lot of information into that.

HH
Mike
 
bfodnes said:
Lots of different namelabels for what is Visual ID with rather limited telltales of the object found.

VS..

Tone ID and the possibilities to read information and nuances in the sound by the human ear.

Fished done very well with the GB/G2 sound nuances and I hope they will continue on that road, maybe with a user selectable modulation potentiometer and iron volume potentiometer. Or rather below tonebreak volume potentiometer.

One thing that no one has done yet with visual ID is to give you a visual of the sound nuances in a graphic of some sort together with the ID nr. With todays fine electronics it must be possible to get a digital readout of the nuances sent to the sound channel. A graphic with lots of information in one " symbol "
Click to expand...

BRILLIANT and I can't say it hasn't crossed my mind before ;-)
This could almost introduce a pattern matching functionality with sounds represented as pictures of some type, but a relatively raw version as to not lose too much of the subtleties. But then again you gurus out there would know how to best represent it.
 
whatever it is,we know it'll be "right" before it hits the market!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
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