New detectors from Whites and Minelab.

[Sunny Jim]

I know the itch when a new machine hits the market. Honestly, I went out on a limb to buy the F75 early-on. I have no regrets. Yes we all like better info on a target and depth and that is why the 'hunted out areas' are fun to pull silver or gold rings out of. The thinking goes that newer is better. I wish Microsoft would come up with a OS that was as robust as my F75. I really do not know how they will top the F75, but I am sure they have ideas. The machine is fast, deep and offers all the info I need at a glance. The final choice is between my ears on targets that do not ID due to depth or masking. Any of a number of machines are great for the guy who doesn't want to get their knees dirty and bends over for a sure thing on the surface. Looking back over the last 12 years or so, there have been some great machines put into production. I bought some of them. I think the high end machines are for the TH'rs that want to recover what was passed by. There may only be a few inches in depth advantage in some models. I also consider how technical the machine is and simplicity of use. One thing for sure is the extra info is desired by those hunting on the edge of detection. Many of us detect with little or no discrimination because it is a well known fact that discrimination is costly on depth. The F75 in AMM is so powerful and quiet that it is my favorite mode. The two coils are all I really need and are nuts-on as a single frequency machine. What is sad is that while the grass may look greener on the other side, the F75 is overlooked as old technology. As for the limits of depth with any machine, a matched coil (load) and transceiver just cannot be beat. ML knew that with the 'terras, and it was not a gimmick to sell more coils. At first glance the F75 coil looked a little funky but the configuration makes for a powerful coil optimised for one frequency. Stay with the f4 frequency when you can (default). Maybe there is another machine in the works but I honestly cannot say the F75 is 'old hat'. It will be a long time for me to go back to all those 'picked clean' areas and see what was left behind at the limits of depth the f75 delivers. It detects way into the pulse range for some targets and though you may not have ID numbers, the discrimination can be done in the audio quality and only gets better as you near the target. Yes, I am PRO F75, it kicks my MXT in the butt in so many ways and the MXT is an awesome machine, I guess I followed the designers because I know what they can do, they know what they can do and most importantly, they know the design limits to get the best performance in one configuration. How the F75 can be topped is a wonder to me, but there is always hope. remember,, function before aesthetics. Both are a sweet deal in the F75.

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

I think you are right about the F75 almost 3 years and it still pulls out targets that have been missed even by me. I am using the small coil and locking on to iffy targets the larger coil missed. It would be cool to just see the F75 maybe moved to the next notch.

 

[jimmyk]

I couldn't agree more. I sold my MXT after getting an F 75. I'm relic hunting in All Metal Mode and getting lots of bullets I missed with the mXT and a 12" coil. The MXT is a fine fmachine. I dug tons of stuff with it. But the weight and features of the F 75 make for a better machine. I'm sure if I had concentrated on all metal signals with the MXT, I would have dug more, but the F 75 is a better fit for me.

After seeing what the new White's Vision has to offer, I can't wait to see what Fisher comes out with next. Hold on to your seats, boys. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

keep on diggin'

jimmyk in MIssouri

 

[jim tn]

n/t

 

[OzarkTom]

I couldn't agree more. I sold my MXT after getting an F 75. I'm relic hunting in All Metal Mode and getting lots of bullets I missed with the mXT and a 12" coil. The MXT is a fine fmachine. I dug tons of stuff with it. But the weight and features of the F 75 make for a better machine. I'm sure if I had concentrated on all metal signals with the MXT, I would have dug more, but the F 75 is a better fit for me.

After seeing what the new White's Vision has to offer, I can't wait to see what Fisher comes out with next. Hold on to your seats, boys. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

keep on diggin'

jimmyk in MIssouri

And Dave Johnson designed both the MXT and F75, just in case someone here does not know.

 

[Sunny Jim]

thanks for the compliment. I am still having issues selling my MXT. BTW have any of you heard the audio threshold from the new V? Sounds like the old MXT. Somehow I think there is a difference compared to the F series. Any comments? I do not wish to make this a bash or hammer on Whites new V, but to get a coil to work on three frequencies is either an big compromise or some kind of new electronic breakthrough. I have a 5 HF band antenna, and each band is tuned for low SWR where I want it. I noticed there is greater power consumption at 2.5KHZ and that means an impedance mis-match or,.....? You tell me what is going on. No doubt that it works, but how well it works is my question. Maybe the difference is too small to measure or be concerned about, but a big alarm went off when battery consumption was not the same for each independent frequency. That works, but if my F75 was so inefficient, I would need more batteries, more often. Most would not even notice the fact, but it was big as day to me. The scope display is an interesting feature and I cannot deny it is a little sexy.

 

[jim tn]

n/t