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New CZ-3D user..

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bobnoodle

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I was away from detecting for a lot of years, and I just came back.. I purchased a CZ-3D, and have spent several hours with it. I like how it feels, and I am getting an idea how it handles things.
I went to a spot this afternoon for a couple of hours that I had hunted 15 years ago. It was nice to find a little lunch money, but it was my goal to find even one silver coin..
I know it doesn't seem like a lot, but I was happy in finding one Mercury dime! lol..
I've learned a few things reading many posts... There is a lot of knowledge floating around here.. I look forward to reading a lot more.
Bob

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I've had my 3D for three summers now. I've tried some other detectors and I now also own a Minelab Explorer II. I will not get rid of my 3D. It is a very good and simple machine. It has quite a few options you can buy for it as well to make it more versatile. There are 5,8,10.5 and 12" coils available and Sunray also makes an inline probe for it. I have it and it really helps to locate the coins in the hole.

When I 1st got my 3D, I saved all of the posts which provided good info on learning it so I could refer back to it. Olde Tymer has put that file on his website. It will help you learn your machine. Here's the link.
http://www.thetreasureleague.com/CZ3D_Tips.htm

Good Luck,
Dave
 
Thanks for the welcome!

I have several hours on my CZ-3D now. It is beginning to feel more familiar all the time. Part of the time I've used the stock coil, and part of the time I've used a five inch coil. I've found I can pinpoint a little tighter with the small coil, and it does a little better in my trash laden backyard.

I have a good chunk of lunch money, a few interesting little artifacts, and one mercury dime. The coins have been mostly a lot of pennies, some dimes, and several quarters. I have yet to find a nickel, and that is starting to bother me. I am not sure if they're just not there, or if I'm passing them up.

I have NASA Tom's latest dvd, and found useful information on it.

I am just using a set of small headphones, but I have a pair of Gray Ghost Ultimate headphones on the way. I used to use a large military knife for digging, but didn't want to have issues with it in public, so I purchased a Lesche digging tool. It rocks!.. A very well made tool, and works great!

I want a pinpointing tool of some sort. I have considered the small hand-held beeping/vibrating units, but I really like the idea of the Sunray probe. Anyone have one on their 3D..? I would like to know what kind of range/depth they possess.

I think I may buy extra lower sections so that i can swap coils in seconds, and it would give me a spare if I ever needed it.

Thank you in advance for any information offered.

Bob
 
Lol.. Yes.. Even so, I still wouldn't turn down a dump truck load of those crappy quarters!
 
Bob,
I have the Sunray and it "rocks". You get about 3" depth from it. I also have a Vibraprobe, which is OK, but at best, you get 1.5" off the tip. Usually, it's about 1". The Sunray also gives you tone ID in your headphones. I believe it is the single best investment after the metal detector itself. You number of "empty holes" will greatly be reduced. You can also use your machine's pinpoint button with the Sunray. The Sunray will make the detector a little heavier so be ready for that.

Get some permissions around 100+ yr old houses and you will see your 3D's good finds increase. You won't find as much pocket change but the 3D will be more in it's element looking for older coins.

Good Luck,
Dave
 
Thanks for the advice Dave! The more I think of it, the more it seems like a great idea! I spent a couple of hours running time this afternoon going through the volleyball court of a local tavern. It's only been there a few years, but I wanted to get some time in on the machine.

I did learn a couple of things. I got to feel a little bit of coins on edge. A sort of double blip one way, and a single the other, with the coin being in the middle.

I also learned that the most commonly lost coin on a volleyball court is a penny! lol.. I picked up a few nickels, and that made me feel better, because I had been feeling like I had been walking over them somehow.

I seem to like to have my discrimination set on zero, so that I hear everything. Is that a common way to run?

I'm glad that I don't have to wait to buy the Sunray until I find enough lunch money! lol.. I think I'll have to order one this week.

Bob

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I run all of my machines so I can hear everything. Then you know when to slow down to a crawl because of the trash or switch to a smaller coil... :)

-Bill
 
Just like Bill said, running disc 0 is best. That way you can hear the iron and trash so you know when to slow down. It's easy to run disc 0 on the 3D and listen to all the tones. I disc a lot of stuff with my Explorer because I'm not used to the tones.

I hope you ran the 3D in salt mode on a newer place like a volleyball court. It will ID the new nickels more accurately that way.

Dave
 
Yes, I ran in the salt mode. This was the first time that I did that consistently, and it is also the first time that I picked up nickels.. I think we've solved that mystery.

If I keep picking up tips here, and keep watching that NASA Tom DVD, and spend more time with the machine, I might just learn something.. It seems to have gotten more of my time lately than the seat of my Harley, or my Jeep project, but it's all good...

Bob
 
It certainly does give you a great indication of the trash in the ground! I bought a five inch coil, and did some experimenting in a really trash filled area in my yard before I did any digging. I did find that it is a definite plus to have a smaller coil available for scooting around in the junk!

Bob
 
I have all three coils for it, and each coil has it's own lower- and middle-stem extensions. It takes me a minute or two at the most to switch coils.

HH from Allen in MI
 
Yes, a small coil is always a plus. A small coil also forces you to slow down if you truely want to cover the ground as good as possible.

-Bill
 
Yeh, the salt mode works well on new nickels but when you think V-nickels or buffaloes are lurking in the ground, enhanced mode will ID them better. Your salt mode will ID a lot of the old nickels as foil. I've dug many V-nickels and one shield nickel that did this. I even re-covered an area that I had covered with my Explorer and the 3D picked out an 1890 V-nickel that I had missed with the EXP.

Dave
 
I think that idea rocks Allen! That just makes things much easier to swap around.. at the very least, just the lower section..

Bob
 
I picked up several nickels today in the salt mode Dave. Both areas were very trash laden. I did dig a few pulltabs that sounded good too though.. lol..

I have a couple of houses that are 100 years old or so that I will get to hunt as soon as time allows. I am looking forward to those. Hopefully there are some older coins there.

I met a guy today that was using a CZ-5 with the Sunray probe on it. His feeling was that he wasn't getting much more than an inch of depth with it, but he really did like it. He appeared to be using it on nearly everything that he dug.

Bob
 
as you can wrap the extra coil around that part. This way you won't have to mess with all the coil when you're changing coils. It's also really, really, quick to loosen the cam lock, push the button, and BAM, it's separated. Of course, I've got years of practice, but it's easy to pic up.

HH from Allen in MI
 
in that due to the many different shapes and sizes, they can come in in several different places on the meter. Some of the newer pulltabs come in solid Nickel. In my area, there is an older pullring, smaller than most, that also comes in solid Nickel. Broken/damaged pulltabs almost always come in as a Nickel, since due to the damage, the conductivity of the target has reduced a bit.

HH from Allen in MI
 
Yes! I think that is the plan! As we get older, we like to make things a little easier on ourselves!

I rec'd my new headphones in the mail today. I had to check them out at lunchtime! I got the Gray Ghost Ultimate set. They're a definite improvement over the ones that I had been using which were actually intended for a digital music player.

I also got a permit for hunting in the county parks here. In this county it's a free permit that is issued annually, but it's required.

Bob
 
I don't mind digging a few of them. I am simply going to have to put together a marketing strategy wherein the end result is me getting wealthy by selling them.. lol..

I do find that some of them seem to pinpoint as a little bit of an elongated object, but that doesn't seem like a definite science. I am sure some famous person said "when in doubt; dig it out"..? lol..

Bob
 
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