I bought a GTI 1500 Garrett and I hate the thing it beeps all the time and it seems like nothing lives up to what it is supposed to do. I am returning it Monday. I have a Tesoro Golden Saber II that I love to hunt with and want a newer Detector. From my experience with the Golden Saber, I would like to get a newer one that has the same abilities as my Golden Saber. My Golden Saber has tone ID or at least I can tell by the tone what I am digging, Notch Discrimination, hunts quiet, and a good Discriminator. Only problem with the machine is that it does not hunt very deep. I usually only hunt old torn down Houses so there is more junk than usual. What currently made Tesoro matches my Golden Saber and would you recommend that model?
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Need Help Please On Tesoro
- Thread starter daddyflea
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dixiedigger57
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Tejon seems to be the choice of many. My eldorado is old but works well, except that it has a widescan coil, and i hunt low disc so i dig a lot of iron. When its too bad, i go to my small coil Amigo II. Lets see if some of the guys suggest a new coil, might solve your problem. a friend hunts an old fort site with a Hayes mark 1, old machine, company i believe may be gone. 69 buck machine, constant tuning, but 100khz, it knocks out the iron, and finds the brass and pewter/ silver. not deep, but neat. i suggest the coil change. saber is good machine. how about it fellas, coil change?
fowlercharles
Member
Hey Daddyflea, I used a Golden Sabre !! for several years and you are right about them not having much depth. Probably one of the best ever descriminators though and it does sound as if you want to stick to what you are familuar with. Tejon is a real depth hog for sure, and expecially with the 5.75 Concentric coil in the trash, but I suggest you continue to stand by for some input on the newer version of the "Sabre" series. "The Golden " is the most recent I think, but there may be others and certainly there are those that can bring you up to date. As for the coil changes for more depth or whatever, there are advantages there to be considered and plenty to learn from those guys swinging them now. Good luck and HH, Charlie
Sven
Well-known member
daddyflea said:
Surprised your having trouble with your GTi1500, had two of them about 8 years ago. Both ran smooth and trouble free and loved hunting with them. Both were bought used but, did remember that I sent them to Garrett for a tune-up/check over, something I did back then when buying a used machine.
daddyflea
I would think that your GSll would be just the ticket for hunting around old torn down house sights. Depth is'nt an issue in trashy places because of target masking. I have your GSll older brother, the Pantera,same detector basically, only the Pantera has a ten turn ground balance. When I am hunting a trashy site with my Pantera, I will turn my 'notch control' fully counter clockwise for a solid low tone, or fully clockwise for a solid high tone. Basically I just run a single tone in the trash, either a high or low tone with the disc at minimum. I also run my notch accept/reject switch in the off position as I find a lot off neat things come in at the pull tab range of conductivity. In the less trashy areas I like to run with the 'notch control' to brake tone on a zinc penny with a 'warble' sound, this way you can 'cherry pick the high tones for copper pennies and up through the conductivity scale including silver coins.My Pantera is'nt a depth monster, but I hunt with a buddy with a E-Trac and I seem to do as well as him in the trash, and some of my signals I get with my Pantera, the E-Trac just 'nulls out" on. My two zincs.
I would think that your GSll would be just the ticket for hunting around old torn down house sights. Depth is'nt an issue in trashy places because of target masking. I have your GSll older brother, the Pantera,same detector basically, only the Pantera has a ten turn ground balance. When I am hunting a trashy site with my Pantera, I will turn my 'notch control' fully counter clockwise for a solid low tone, or fully clockwise for a solid high tone. Basically I just run a single tone in the trash, either a high or low tone with the disc at minimum. I also run my notch accept/reject switch in the off position as I find a lot off neat things come in at the pull tab range of conductivity. In the less trashy areas I like to run with the 'notch control' to brake tone on a zinc penny with a 'warble' sound, this way you can 'cherry pick the high tones for copper pennies and up through the conductivity scale including silver coins.My Pantera is'nt a depth monster, but I hunt with a buddy with a E-Trac and I seem to do as well as him in the trash, and some of my signals I get with my Pantera, the E-Trac just 'nulls out" on. My two zincs.
The Golden uMax is not deep either if you rely on tone ID. In air tests high tone ID for a silver dime goes to 5" max with only 2-3 sweeps using the 8x9" coil. It will beep on that same dime at 8" when super tuned but a dime deeper than 5" it remains in the previous tone. For a silver quarter 6" max for high tone ID in 2-3 sweeps, 9" max for a beep. It beeps on deep coins but its ability to switch tones craps out at 5-6".
Just got back from Hunting. My Golden Saber stopped working completely. Hopefully I can send it back and get it fixed. I am not the original owner. I used the GTI 1500 and my opinion did not change. I hate to say it is junk but it is not fun to hunt with and I know I missed Coins. It may be that it just does not work right. It does not pinpoint very well at all which could throw off the whole machine. Depth meter seems not to work at all. This is coming from a Garrett user that still has a GTA 1000 that works great. Not sure what I will get I am very disappointed in detecting right now.
As set by the factory my Golden would drop a tone on deeper coins. A dime at 5 inches in the ground gave a high tone, at 6 inches a mix of the two highest tones and from 6 inches to it's depth limit of a tad less than 7 inches on a dime only the second highest tone. Copper pennies and quarters would do the same but they were a little deeper before the tone changed. However, the tone range can be adjusted with an internal pot so the Golden will hold a tone deeper, at least mine can. I adjusted it to where a zinc penny on top of the ground gives a mix of the two highest tones, which resulted in copper pennies, dimes and higher coins holding the high tone until right at the Goldens depth limit before giving a mix of the two highest tones. It also resulted in nickels giving a mixed tone, but it doesn't drop a full tone on deeper coins like it did. My ground is basically mineral free though and the results might, and probably will, be different elsewhere, but with a 7 inch Shadow X2 coil on the Golden it will get dimes at 6 inches with a high tone, 6.5 inches to maybe 7 with a mixed tone, and a quarter at 8 inches or a tad more before giving a mixed tone. That's with the all metal mode threshold set to a just audible level, the disc set tight on nickels, tabs notched out and ground balanced to my ground with the internal GB pot. I had two Golden Sabre II's back in the 1990's and liked using them, but the Golden goes a couple of inches deeper and even an old arthritic geriatric like me can swing it for a long time before getting too tired to use it. Photos are of recent Golden finds. They ranged in depth from a couple of inches for the sterling ring to 8 inches for one of the wheaties and one of the silver quarters and a little deeper for the heart shaped thing with New Orleans on it.
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fowlercharles
Member
Go ahead and send your GS 11 home for some TLC. I sent mine back last year for a tune up and got it back in great shape real soon.. They fix-um so long as it has Tesoro on it no matter how many owners it has had, so long as it has not beem abused or modified.in some way.HH, Charlie
fowlercharles said:
Did not know that. It will hopefully go back Monday and hopefully Monday I will order a new Detector. I at least have my choices down to the Golden UMax or the Cortes. The Cortes is twice the price and a big draw back is that I do not want to get in the habit of checking that display all the time.
Can I use Rechargeable Batteries with these Machines?
fowlercharles
Member
Daddyflea, I did a quick search here on Find's forum and also did a Google on Tesoro and Recharagables and it looks like lots of folks use rechargeables but with very mixed results.Some good and some not.May be why Tesoro Reccomends using Alkalines. I wanted to ask before but didn't, if you had considered getting a Tejon.I do believe you should at least check it out. It is a real depth monster and very good in the trash with the 5.75 Concentric.Of course , no meter, and a language of it's own to learn, but the real meat eater of the bunch. HH, Charlie
Your Garrett has a bad coil as the GTI series had this problem and time for a trip to the shop for repair...
Having used every notch tesoro ever made the old units just have audio variances the new ones don't so I feel you are looking for something that doesn't exist...Just my opinion as I have an oldie but goodie Pantera and will run rings around the newest Golden U-max which has too many tones and notches which run into each other. No reflection on those fellas that use the Golden with great success but will stick with my Pantera and you might look for a used Golden Sabre 11 which is the newest of the old Tesoro's and hasn't been made for years.
Having used every notch tesoro ever made the old units just have audio variances the new ones don't so I feel you are looking for something that doesn't exist...Just my opinion as I have an oldie but goodie Pantera and will run rings around the newest Golden U-max which has too many tones and notches which run into each other. No reflection on those fellas that use the Golden with great success but will stick with my Pantera and you might look for a used Golden Sabre 11 which is the newest of the old Tesoro's and hasn't been made for years.
My error I thought he had the original Golden Sabre not the 11 so strike out my last sentence..Older Tesoro notch units certainly not depth demons but love gold rings and again have audio variances not found in the new fangled units with all the bells and whistles. Sure they are making them lighter and deeper at Tesoro but somewhere along the way their are give and takeaways
so hold onto your GS 11 and even Tesoro recommends a tuneup so give Tesoro a call....as age may have taken a toll on your older unit and again Tesoro service is unbeatable...
so hold onto your GS 11 and even Tesoro recommends a tuneup so give Tesoro a call....as age may have taken a toll on your older unit and again Tesoro service is unbeatable...
I got it used from Alexander Enterprises in South Houston Texas and sent it back to them. They can be reached at this site Alexander Enterprises I sent it back today and they are not open today. If you are interested in it, I would contact them this Wednesday.
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Dan-Pa. said:
I still have my Golden Saber II but it went down this weekend as well. Just was not getting Power. I sent it back to Tesoro and ordered a new Golden Umax as well. I am supposed to be off this week so I wanted something to hunt with. Last Summer I took off for a week and took my Camper to a great Fishing Spot, only to have my Boat Motor go out the first day.
Every time I hunt my Son grabs the "New" Detector and lets me choose which of the other three I want to hunt with. With a new Golden Umax and the Golden Saber II he can have his pick and I will be happy regardless.
I have not kept up with the new technology but it really seems we are not making a lot of gains just adding gimmicks that sell machines instead of making the new machines a lot better than the old ones.
My favorite Garrett was a Ground Hog, which I sold to get a much newer GTA 1000, and now trying the GTI 1500. I still rate these Garrett machines in that order.
Only Tesoro I have had is the Golden Saber II
Am sure the GS 11 will come back from Tesoro working well as Tesoro service is second to none and even carry parts for 25 year old units..As far as the newest version the golden U-max some love it and some hate it and hope its your cup of tea...Used both above mentioned units and as far a Tesoro notch units a Pantera is my cup of tea so good luck....