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- Thread starter gunwolf
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No Problem
I look forward to our next Hunt
Your Silver or Mine?
It is unlikely that your machine/coil has an issue but a very real possibility and the side by side tests should give you some answers.Also you will get much better depth results with your machine in manual sensitivity verses auto even if the manual setting is the same as what the auto +3 value is.On the other hand the machine will be much more stable in the auto setting at many sites.
Another factor to consider is that the E-Trac/Explorer series machines do not test well on freshly buried targets compared to ones buried a long time with minimal soil disturbance.
Looking forward to your findings
Another factor to consider is that the E-Trac/Explorer series machines do not test well on freshly buried targets compared to ones buried a long time with minimal soil disturbance.
Looking forward to your findings
These guys may be right and wrong at the same time.
The characteristics you are describing sound like it could be due to iron masking...but people need to realize that this doesn't have to come from man made iron items (rusty nails, etc) that the ground itself can have natural iron in it that will have the same effect on your detector. I have bands of it throughout this area in which you can take any VLF machine on the market and bury a coin or relic at any place in the ground that you so desire...you can take magnets to it and all of that...and when you place the object in the ground beyond 6 inches....every VLF machine on the market will read it as iron. Every. That is a big statement...trust me, I've spent a couple/few thousand dollars over the years to figure this out. Some are better at it than others...but after a certain point beyond 5-6 inches, they will all begin reading things in the ground as iron. It is very frustrating when you see the guys on YouTube with said machines, in their parks getting those nice clear flue like signals and perfect IDs...and they dig 8-10 inches for a silver dime. In this ground you can take a silver half dollar and put it in the ground flat at 8 inches and it will read as iron IF it reads anything at all. Most people will argue and say it's not set up right...the only way to make a believer out of them is for them to see it for themselves.
I took my eTrac relic hunting this morning at a site with very very little trash. I ran in open screen with manual sensitivity at 24. I dug 3 drop minie balls at depths between 6 and 9 inches deep...all three of them never read above 34 on the ferrous side. In other words they would have been totally discriminated out even with the downloadable "extensive nail program" and most other relic disc patterns. I have the extensive nail program downloaded and loaded in my machine but it would only OCCASIONALLY make a peep on the bullets. In open screen they read 34-35 the entire time. The only reasons I dug them....#1 I know what kind of dirt I hunt in and what it does to detectors. #2 it never gave a double blip signal like a nail does. The only time they read like they should, is when I had them out of the ground and in my dirt pile.
Yes you are correct....it's almost scary when you think on what you've walked over trusting your ID in this kind of ground. Some sites you just can't go to and dig every signal to see what they are...but in the ones you can, it will amaze you what comes out of the ground that doesn't read like it should. In some of my better dirt sites locally, I can take the eTrac in there and if a silver dime is at 6-7 inches it will read it 12 ferr and between 42 and 44 cond. And be just as sweet of a signal as can be...but I know when I hit the iron mineralized dirt, that all bets are off on IDing anything old. That is usually when the pulse machines come out.
The characteristics you are describing sound like it could be due to iron masking...but people need to realize that this doesn't have to come from man made iron items (rusty nails, etc) that the ground itself can have natural iron in it that will have the same effect on your detector. I have bands of it throughout this area in which you can take any VLF machine on the market and bury a coin or relic at any place in the ground that you so desire...you can take magnets to it and all of that...and when you place the object in the ground beyond 6 inches....every VLF machine on the market will read it as iron. Every. That is a big statement...trust me, I've spent a couple/few thousand dollars over the years to figure this out. Some are better at it than others...but after a certain point beyond 5-6 inches, they will all begin reading things in the ground as iron. It is very frustrating when you see the guys on YouTube with said machines, in their parks getting those nice clear flue like signals and perfect IDs...and they dig 8-10 inches for a silver dime. In this ground you can take a silver half dollar and put it in the ground flat at 8 inches and it will read as iron IF it reads anything at all. Most people will argue and say it's not set up right...the only way to make a believer out of them is for them to see it for themselves.
I took my eTrac relic hunting this morning at a site with very very little trash. I ran in open screen with manual sensitivity at 24. I dug 3 drop minie balls at depths between 6 and 9 inches deep...all three of them never read above 34 on the ferrous side. In other words they would have been totally discriminated out even with the downloadable "extensive nail program" and most other relic disc patterns. I have the extensive nail program downloaded and loaded in my machine but it would only OCCASIONALLY make a peep on the bullets. In open screen they read 34-35 the entire time. The only reasons I dug them....#1 I know what kind of dirt I hunt in and what it does to detectors. #2 it never gave a double blip signal like a nail does. The only time they read like they should, is when I had them out of the ground and in my dirt pile.
Yes you are correct....it's almost scary when you think on what you've walked over trusting your ID in this kind of ground. Some sites you just can't go to and dig every signal to see what they are...but in the ones you can, it will amaze you what comes out of the ground that doesn't read like it should. In some of my better dirt sites locally, I can take the eTrac in there and if a silver dime is at 6-7 inches it will read it 12 ferr and between 42 and 44 cond. And be just as sweet of a signal as can be...but I know when I hit the iron mineralized dirt, that all bets are off on IDing anything old. That is usually when the pulse machines come out.