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my 3khz coil arrived today

Goes4ever

New member
I tested it out on my coin garden. I have wheats, silver dimes, and quarters buried at 7.5-8" measured. They are on large plastic lids underground to prevent sinking.

With the stock coil I can just barely hit on them with no real good reading at a sensitivity of 26. Wheat gives best reading at all directions, although it still reads 42-46 at all directions, and yes I did the factory preset

with the 3khz coil I can pick them all up with a sensitivity of 22, I bumped it up one number at a time 23, 24, 25, 26. The signals got better the higher I raised it. So I think this was a good test to me that the 3khz does and will hit better on deep silver/copper.

I should get better results on a coin that has been in the ground for 80-100+ years I would think.......because of the halo effect?

I have always heard fresh buried coins do not give that great of a signal
 
I/m looking into getting a 3khz coil pretty soon for my 705. What different sizes do they come in , and do they come in both concentric and double d? What's the best 3khz for coinshooting? Thanks , CoinShooter-Craig
 
Craig...the 3KHz 9" concentric only. Read Diggers post on his thought about the 3KHz coil. TomB
 
You are gonna be spoiled now! The coil is so responsive to iron that in some of my places I hunt that are 6-10 or more iron hits per coil swing I have to discriminate it out. However it is just that responsive to the stuff we look for too.............
 
Friend, I wish I could guarantee it. But, you are going to really like the 3KHz. Good Luck.
 
CoinShooter-Craig said:
I/m looking into getting a 3khz coil pretty soon for my 705. What different sizes do they come in , and do they come in both concentric and double d? What's the best 3khz for coinshooting? Thanks , CoinShooter-Craig

It only comes in the 9" concentric.
 
Goes4ever said:
I was told it is NOT responsive to low conductivity metal such as gold and deep iron
It is very responsive to iron. However it will let you know there is a coin by a chinese carry out on the other side of the earth. I would think it would be a relic hunters dream coil.......................Your coin count should soar too.
 
Not sure where you got the idea that the 3 kHz coil would not respond to iron???? I've posted many times that all three coil frequencies will detect all kinds of metals. Some just do it better (or worse) than others as determined by the audio response provided by specific targets. Here are some of the posts I've made concerning that subject, as far back as 2006. I don't expect many folks will read them all. But those that do will find my analysis has been pretty consistent. HH Randy



http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,799930,805239#msg-805239

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,769633,769758#msg-769758

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,734794,735070#msg-735070

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,728860,731491#msg-731491

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,695047,695386#msg-695386

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,644380,645233#msg-645233

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,615433,615537#msg-615537

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,584790,584814#msg-584814

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,569259,569265#msg-569265

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,555025,555054#msg-555054

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,496339,496572#msg-496572

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?55,454362,454417#msg-454417


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Randy I did not think it would NOT respond to iron, I thought it was LESS responsive to lower conductivity metals like gold and deep iron. I knew it would respond to ALL metal. But JAck Flynn above said "The coil is so responsive to iron that in some of my places I hunt that are 6-10 or more iron hits per coil swing I have to discriminate it out"

and

"It is very responsive to iron."

he makes it sound like it really hits hard on iron, and that confused me. I will read your posts today when I get time! thanks!!
 
ok I read all your posts and I guess the reason I assumed it was less responsive to iron was comments you made like this......

"I use it in open fields and hunting old farmsites. It covers a lot of ground with each sweep, is well balanced and is less sensitive to deeply buried iron (than higher freqs)."

" I think the 3 kHz coil does a better job of "ignoring" those smaller bits of low condutive trash"

"since the 3 khz coil is best suited for silver and copper, it makes sense to me that it isn't as sensitive to lower conductive targets such as aluminum can slaw and small bits of deep iron."

"It likes silver and copper much more than it does aluminum and iron"

"my choice for wide open spaces is the 9-inch concentric at 3 kHz. I have been using it for well over a year now and find that it is not only very sensitive to the silver and copper coins I find. But it also provides less sensitivity to ferrous targets that are frequently found in the sites I hunt."

"The ferrous targets are simply discriminated better at lower frequencies. On the same token, higher conductive targets (silver and copper) are more readily detected"

"the lower frequency responds better to higher conductive targets. And, although there is little difference, I have convinced myself a bit better than the 7.5 as well. HH Randy"

so you see from these type of comments you have made is the reason I wanted and purchased the coil. I hunt the same type sites, old homesites, fields etc....and I really feel this lower freq will help me out. Thanks for all your help and pointers, I find them very extremely helpful!
 
G4e it will amaze you when you start using it at how it will pick up coins. Nice an deep. It is very responsive to them. One of the places I hunt is slap full of old lead and metal but once I discriminate that to where I can hear, I pick up those coin signals. You're gonna go nuts over the depth too. Like I mentioned last night a relic hunters dream coil. Just use the machine to your advantage for what you are looking for and get a bigger longer shovel.
 
OK enough of the BS. Now go out and use it . I think you will smiling like a Cheshire cat afterwards.
 
I got an old farm lined up, got permission last night HOWEVER it is raining and is going to all day!
Tomorrow's forecast is sunshine though! :clapping:
 
because there is more to each of them than you copied and pasted to your response. Much more. Not wanting some of the newbies to be mislead, I have gone through each one again and will share the parts you left out, concerning audio response.

** any of the three will find silver, copper, gold, lead and brass, with very little difference in depth of detection. However, I do find that the 3 khz provides a very distinct audio response on deeply buried iron. As one who hunts in multiple tone, all metal mode, I listen to everything, ignoring the low tones of ferrous targets. What I have found is that iron gives a broken tone at the edges when using the 3 kHz coil. And, is far less likely to provide a consistent audio tone on deep iron. Especially when working the coil around edge of the target, listening for variances in the pitch.

**Again, I won't say that the 9-inch, 3 kHz concentric is any deeper than the 9-inch, 7.5 kHz concentric. But I will say that the distinct audio response of iron is much easier to decipher using the 3 kHz than it is the other two frequencies. It has saved me digging a ton of old farm implements!

**When I am hunting an old homestead, I'm convinced that the 3 kHz concentric provides a much more distinct "low iron growl" on those deep scraps of iron, than the other two freqs.

**Due to lower frequencies being more "in-tune" with higher conductive targets (such as silver and copper), it is LESS "in-tune" with lower conductive targets (such as iron and aluminum can slaw). Running the 3 kHz coil in all metal, with multiple tones, is the combination I use on old farmsites and open areas that allow the larger coils. It may not hunt any deeper than the other two frequencies. But it provides a very distinct audio tone on deep iron and other ferrous targets "bordering on" a high conductive reading.

**I like the 9-inch concentric at 3 kHz due to the distinct audio tone that the lower frequency provides me on ferrous targets.

**I won't say that the 3 kHz concentric will detect targets any deeper than the other two freqs at 9-inch concentric. But I use it for two reasons. One, it is very good at detecting old silver and copper coins. And two, it provides a more distinct audio signal on deep iron and modern trash, (than the other two freqs) when running in all metal mode.

**In my opinion, not only is the 3 kHz coil "hotter" on silver and copper. I think the 3 kHz coil does a better job of "ignoring" those smaller bits of low condutive trash. Iin all metal, it still detects them. But they provide an audio response that allows my ears and brain to determine whether I want to dig or not.

**my choice for wide open spaces is the 9-inch concentric at 3 kHz. I have been using it for well over a year now and find that it is not only very sensitive to the silver and copper coins I find. But it also provides less sensitivity to ferrous targets that are frequently found in the sites I hunt. When I am hunting in the 4-tone, all metal mode, it makes a more distinct "low tone" audio response to iron targets, helping me to make a decision whether to dig, or not.

**I won't say the 3 kHz hunts any deeper than my 9-inch concentric at 7.5 kHz. But I can sure tell a difference in the audio tones of ferrous targets. Your results may vary, depending on your soil conditions and the sites you hunt.

**I like the 3 kHz coil. I hunt in 4-tone, all metal most of the time. And I simply ignore the low tones. I am convinced that the 3 kHz coil provides me a more definite audio response to low tone iron than even the 7.5 kHz coils. And far better than the 18.75 kHz coils. This more defined audio response allows me to separate targets better and spend less time checking and rechecking those "iffy" signals. With that said, if someone took the tags off of my LF and MF coils, based on depth, sensitivity and separation characteristics, I'm not sure I could tell them apart.

**Having all 3 frequencies of concentric coils, as well as the 10.5 DD at 18.75, I use the 3 kHz concentric coil most of the time. In all metal, I can differentiate the masking sounds of iron better than with the 18.75 coils.

**you will find very little difference in the detection depth or the ability to detect coins, or coin sized targets, with the three various frequencies. I say this because the difference between 3 kHz to 7.5 kHz to 18.75 kHz is not very much. I have convinced myself that the 3 kHz coil will allow me to hear the low tone created by iron, when adjacent to a coin, better than the other two frequencies.

**I haven't found any coins using the 3 kHz that I couldn't have found with the 7.5 kHz due to depth. But I have dug less iron using the 3 kHz, due to the audio differences I mentioned before. And, I am convinced I was able to "unmask" several old IH cents from iron infested ground that I wouldn't have with the 7.5 kHz. So as to not leave any frequency out, I don't use the 18.75 kHz much because the sensitivity is too hot for the types of places I hunt. If I have to lower the sensitivity of the detector to compensate for a "hot" coil, then what is the point if I am coin shooting for silver and copper? When the X-50 and X-30 were introduced, all I used were the 7.5 kHz coils. In fact, if you search the first 12 months of posts, you will likely find some posts I made saying that I preferred the 7.5 and couldn't tell much (if any) difference in comparing detection depth between coils or detector models. For the most part, I still feel that way about the three detector models. However, just as with the X-70 itself, the more I use the 3 kHz coil, the more I like it. Theoretically, the 3 kHz coil should be more sensitive to copper and silver. And, I swear I can hear a subtle difference in the audio produced by iron targets with the 3 kHz coil than I can the other two. So, to "not really" answer your question again, I guess it is just my preference based on my hearing the tones and interpreting them. That and I want that low freq/high conductivity theory on my side!


HH Randy
 
Digger, I guess I'll have to swear with you. That 3KHz at least to me, also, delivers that funny sound on iron.
 
you can swear with me. Just don't swear at me! :rofl:

Good to know someone else can hear those low conductive harmonics. HH Randy
 
I bought the 3khz coil recently largely because of Digger's posts. I hunt old farmsites and thought I could use an edge on deep copper and silver. When it arrived I immediatley put it on and proceeded to go out and dig a bunch of iron. I remembered that he said it was very responsive to iron, but that it gave a distinct audio that allowed him to ignore iron signals, but I was missing that somehow. After a couple of hunts where I dug a lot of iron, I decided I would put the 6" DD HF back on until I had time to go back and reread all his 3 khz coil posts and then try it again. Lately I have been so busy with work that I have not been out detecting, but hope to soon. I usually hunt in all metal with 3 or 4 tones.
 
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