Minelab Manticore

[CoinShooter01]

Im courious about the guys who have pre-ordered....
Where did you pre-order from, and why did you choose that particular dealer?

 

[silvercoinboy]

Im courious about the guys who have pre-ordered....
Where did you pre-order from, and why did you choose that particular dealer?

kelleyco

 

[CoinShooter01]

I saw the video Wednesday when that statement was made. That statement plus another is what reignited the subject. I just hate it when people don't get what they expect when they spend their money. Something should have been done to make this right but it never will. Taking the machines as a trade in on the Manticore would have made things right. I have 2 Equinox 800 that I will try to sell soon.
When I do sell them I'm definitely going to tell any potential buyers about the flooding problems and the coil ears breaking. So I'm definitely expecting to take a hit on the selling price.

I dont believe you will have any trouble selling a used Equinox.
They seem to hold their value very well!

 

[sprchng]

Buying either a 600 or 800 out of warranty is like playing craps. With it's maintenance history every push of a button could be a $350 to $400 bill.

 

[DigDog]

Buying either a 600 or 800 out of warranty is like playing craps. With it's maintenance history every push of a button could be a $350 to $400 bill.

Buying anything out of warranty is like shooting craps. Especially if it has history of hardware issues. Software issues,updates is not effected by warranty.

 

[sprchng]

Buying anything out of warranty is like shooting craps. Especially if it has history of hardware issues. Software issues,updates is not effected by warranty.

Some can be repaired for a reasonable sum ,(not Minelabs , I admit) but not the NOX detectors with the sealed control pod. I'm not sure how many manufacturers are going that route but you basically end up with a coil , a stick and a replaceable control pod for "parts". I warned everyone about this when Minelab had their big introduction and was either banned from forums or panned by Minelab homeboy sycophants. For some I'm sure the chickens have come home to roost because of the four people I know who use either NOX , all are on at least their second ones. They were all on warranty then but not anymore.

 

[DigDog]

Some can be repaired for a reasonable sum ,(not Minelabs , I admit) but not the NOX detectors with the sealed control pod. I'm not sure how many manufacturers are going that route but you basically end up with a coil , a stick and a replaceable control pod for "parts". I warned everyone about this when Minelab had their big introduction and was either banned from forums or panned by Minelab homeboy sycophants. For some I'm sure the chickens have come home to roost because of the four people I know who use either NOX , all are on at least their second ones. They were all on warranty then but not

Don’t even get me started. We have reached new lows on the internet and social media. I still believe the truth always comes out though.

 

[silvercoinboy]

We all know they possibly leak and that the coil ears and cuffs are crap. But it is fully covered by a 3 year warranty. My detector is pretty beaten up by 3 years

 

[Mark kus]

I guess they can't admit but so much. I'll put this in as gentle terms as I can.
Think about it: They have this machine advertised waterproof to 10 feet. THAT IS A BIG SELLING POINT.
I think my opinion that MOST units actually used under water for an extended period of time do leak is very possible. Again, not wading but actually submerged. There are too many reports and videos of individuals having multiple units leak.
So, this machine is not performing as expected in the waterproof department.
So, even though most people will never submerge their detector, they bought a detector that they were expecting to be waterproof to 10 feet.
So.................
It would be nice if we could trade in the Equinox 800 for maybe a credit on a machine that hopefully is actually waterproof.
Ok, I'm done

Yep trade in the flooded ones!
Mark

 

[DigDog]

We all know they possibly leak and that the coil ears and cuffs are crap. But it is fully covered by a 3 year warranty. My detector is pretty b eaten up by 3 years

We all know they possibly leak and that the coil ears and cuffs are crap. But it is fully covered by a 3 year warranty. My detector is pretty beaten up by 3 years

I don’t know though if you went to buy a car and the salesman showed you a model notorious for carburetor problems and said, sure they flood and don’t start once in a while but you have a three year 36,000 mile warranty, maybe you are one that says sure I’ll take it! Everyone looks at things differently.
As for Markus saying just trade them in, if your detractor was flooded you basically have a used shaft and coil. (Maybe $50) all i have to say is ive seen throughout the years of hurricanes cars totally submerged user water, months later end up in a car lot near you. Nope nothing wrong with this car totally clean.some will pass their problems to others with no conscience, again different people out there.

 

[CoinShooter01]

For land users, I have seldom heard of an issue with the Nox, besides coil/cuff breakage, and who knows if they were using the Nox as a walking stick???
Even the battery seems to be holding up very well after 5 years.

 

[marcomo]

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I've been impressed with the Equinox that I've been using pretty much exclusively for the last three and a half years. It performs quite well and I haven't had a lick of mechanical trouble with it. I could quibble about this deficiency or that, but I only have one major complaint...EMI!!!

As a primarily urban coin hunter, EMI can too often become a vexing problem. The easy fixes of using noise cancel and changing modes usually don't help. Decreasing sensitivity to the point of serious depth loss is not a viable option. What often helps (but not always) is going to the 6" coil or switching to a single frequency. Unfortunately, the Nox performance is diminished (particularly in regards to IDing targets) in single frequency. And using a sniper coil in less than busy areas is frustrating.

The key Manticore issue for me: Will it be a significant improvement over the Nox in regards to mitigating EMI?

 

[CoinShooter01]

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I've been impressed with the Equinox that I've been using pretty much exclusively for the last three and a half years. It performs quite well and I haven't had a lick of mechanical trouble with it. I could quibble about this deficiency or that, but I only have one major complaint...EMI!!!

As a primarily urban coin hunter, EMI can too often become a vexing problem. The easy fixes of using noise cancel and changing modes usually don't help. Decreasing sensitivity to the point of serious depth loss is not a viable option. What often helps (but not always) is going to the 6" coil or switching to a single frequency. Unfortunately, the Nox performance is diminished (particularly in regards to IDing targets) in single frequency. And using a sniper coil in less than busy areas is frustrating.

The key Manticore issue for me: Will it be a significant improvement over the Nox in regards to mitigating EMI?

I too hunt a lot in urban area, and I find if I utilize the noise cancel function a few times, its good to go.
Ive never considered EMI an issue, and usually run the sensativity somewhere between 18 and 22.

 

[Mark kus]

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I've been impressed with the Equinox that I've been using pretty much exclusively for the last three and a half years. It performs quite well and I haven't had a lick of mechanical trouble with it. I could quibble about this deficiency or that, but I only have one major complaint...EMI!!!

As a primarily urban coin hunter, EMI can too often become a vexing problem. The easy fixes of using noise cancel and changing modes usually don't help. Decreasing sensitivity to the point of serious depth loss is not a viable option. What often helps (but not always) is going to the 6" coil or switching to a single frequency. Unfortunately, the Nox performance is diminished (particularly in regards to IDing targets) in single frequency. And using a sniper coil in less than busy areas is frustrating.

The key Manticore issue for me: Will it be a significant improvement over the Nox in regards to mitigating EMI?

Same here with the finds we make with it I will put up with its short comings that was a joke about trading them in.
Mark

 

[marcomo]

My experience has not been the same as coin shooter's. Then again, I'm not a happy camper if I have to run the sensitivity as low as 18. And there have been plenty of times with the stock coil, especially near overhead power lines, when the EMI noise is intolerable even as low as 18 sens. It's always a happy surprise for me on those rare occasions when the noise cancel actually quiets EMI significantly down. Going to a single frequency mode (or switching to the sniper coil) has the highest EMI mitigation success rate for me, but I didn't buy the Nox to use it as a single freq. and the ID when not in multi is below par. With the Nox in single freq, when it comes to ID accuracy, I'd even lean towards giving the edge to my Teknetics Minuteman (rebranded Eurotek Pro) a $149 detector.

The times I have used the Nox in remote areas/ghost towns far away from any significant EMI the depth has been astounding. To the point of digging a large plug and then digging out additional dirt several times on five bar targets before getting a peep out of my pinpointer. The first couple times it happened I was thinking to myself this must be a false signal. As I kept digging very deep targets I was thinking to myself wow, this detector really has some serious punch.

 

[DigDog]

Same here with the finds we make with it I will put up with its short comings that was a joke about trading them in.
Mark

Here’s the thing I think the Nox is a good detector but has an obvious leaking issue that is important for someone like me. If i didn’t care about the waterproofing i would use it. But i don’t go bashing the detector as a total piece of crap everywhere like coinshitter is doing with the legend.
His best argument is it has alot of software updates/ bug fixes. So do our cell phones. I dont go around on iphone forums or android forums bashing them. I will inquire about an issue though if it’s something that effects me.
Here is something to note. At least NM is trying to fix something on a product just released. Unlike ML, has not done anything about it for years now.
I also have given ML quit a bit of money through the years for detectors and should have a say in what concerns me about the products. I would like to know how much money CS has given NM for detectors or if he has developed better software himself since he criticizes it so much.
He should put his money where his mouth is but please wash it afterwards because I wouldn’t want to touch it knowing where his mouth is.

 

[CoinShooter01]

We all know they possibly leak and that the coil ears and cuffs are crap. But it is fully covered by a 3 year warranty. My detector is pretty beaten up by 3 years

If not for the Manticore, Id probably purchase another Nox just to have around as a back up!

 

[Ted S]

I like to use my ears as target ID....

 

[CoinShooter01]

I like to use my ears as target ID....

Me too.
I believe that the 2D screen will also aid in making a dig or no decision, but will probably rely mostly on audio tones.
Minelab always has had great audio tones, and the Manticore seems to have taken that one step further!

 

[Mark kus]

Me too.
I believe that the 2D screen will also aid in making a dig or no decision, but will probably rely mostly on audio tones.
Minelab always has had great audio tones, and the Manticore seems to have taken that one step further!

Yes minelab is top dog with tones I agree it’s hard to get use to another brand,
Mark