steve herschbach
New member
Hi,
Well, I have a new Matrix M6 and am getting ready to take it on Christmas vacation with me to Hawaii. I consider the M6 to basically be an MXT focused on the Coin & Jewelry Mode so I figured this forum to be the best place to post this.
Some background on me. I got to use the first White's MXT in Alaska, and was the first guy to find gold with it at Ganes Creek, Alaska. Story at http://www.whiteselectronics.com/mxtalaskaw.php I consider the MXT to be one of the finest multi-purpose detectors ever designed, if you define multi-purpose as meaning real good at finding gold nuggets but also good for coins, relics, jewelry, etc. I talked a lot of people into using the MXT at Ganes Creek, and so I'll take some credit for indirectly having helped prove the capability of the MXT in that arena.
<img src="http://www.recminer.com/images/m61.jpg"><br><b>My new toy, outfitted with Eclipse 10" elliptical DD coil instead of stock coil</b>
I have used the MXT for coin hunting, but frankly, like many, I thought the machine a bit "noisy" when compared to most coin detectors. And like many I also wanted something a bit better on the target id than having to eyeball numbers for every target.
White's has introduced the new Matrix M6 and in my opinion it is basically an MXT locked into Coin & Jewelry Mode, and thus is the unit designed to answer these desires on the part of MXT coin hunters. The Mode switch is gone and so there is no Relic or Prospecting Mode. The threshold is now silent and the Threshold knob has also been removed. If you turn the "SENS" knob (White's no longer calls it GAIN!) up over 100 interference starts to break through and give the impression of a ratty threshold, but it is not the same thing as a true threshold adjustment. The dual function of the DISC control has been reduced to just a single turn DISC knob as there is now no Prospecting Mode and so no SAT to adjust. The TRAC switch is now marked "Beach", "Lock Off", and "On" instead of the "Salt", "Lock", and "Ground" markings on the MXT.
So the box now has three controls instead of five. You get a combo sensitivity/power off control, single turn discrimination control, and three position ground switch.
The final control is the trigger switch. In normal center position you get the single tone of the MXT Coin & Jewelry Mode, albeit without a threshold. That good old-fashioned White's "boom box" response. Now kick the trigger switch into the locked forward position, and you get the biggest new feature on the machine - seven tone audio. The preset tab notch on the MXT C&J Mode is no longer included. Squeezing the trigger gives you the standard depth/pinpointing mode.
The M6 is based on the Pro series rod with trigger mounted in a post. Personally, I've always preferred the smaller round grip. I know others prefer the pistol grip, so this is a personal preference thing for sure. I like the trigger being truly out of the way and it is now almost impossible for the pod to ride on top of your hand. So personally I prefer the M6 rod setup over the MXT.
<img src="http://www.recminer.com/images/m62.jpg">
<b>M6 Rod and Trigger Detail</b>
The pod and LCD readout are the same as the MXT Coin & Jewelry mode. The decal has been replaced with one that shows the Coin & Jewelry Mode only and a large bar showing IRON/GOLD/SILVER that I think looks kind of nice and which reveals a certain "gold bias" on the part on the M6. One thing White's could have done here to really help out would have been to incorporate break points for the 7 tone audio into the decal. Color coding the VDI scale would have been nice but simple lines would have sufficed.
<img src="http://www.whiteselectronics.com/images/m6display.gif">
<b>Matrix M6 LCD Display</b>
The tones are the big new thing on this unit, and White's has chosen to break the VDI scale up via tones in such a way that it seems to me the unit was almost designed more for jewelry detecting than coin detecting. All the audio resolution is on the low end.
Here is White's published VDI/Tone scale:
-95 = 57Hz (Low tone)
-94 to -4 = 128 Hz
-5 to 7 = 145 Hz
8 to 26 = 182 Hz
27 to 49 = 259 Hz
50 to 70 = 411 Hz
70 to 95 = 900 (High tone) Hz
First, we have some discrepancies. The -94 to -4 = 128 Hz and -5 to 7 = 145 Hz ranges overlap at -4 and -5! I have not had time to find the exact targets to find out where the real break is. I'm guessing the -5 should have been -3. And 50 to 70 = 411 Hz overlaps with 70 to 95 = 900 Hz. So is 70 441 Hz or 900 Hz? Minor niggle but it reflects a rush to print.
Here is my interpretation of the audio scale (with guessed corrections):
-95 = 57 Hz (Very Low) Hot Rock
-94 to -4 = 128 Hz (Low) Iron Junk
-3 to 7 = 145 Hz (Med Low) Gold Earrings, Chains - Foil
8 to 26 = 182 Hz (Medium) Womens Gold Rings/Nickel - Small Pull Tabs
27 to 49 = 259 Hz (Med Hi) Mens Gold Rings - Large Pull Tabs
50 to 69 = 411 Hz (High) Zinc Penny/Indian Head Penny - Screw Caps
70 to 95 = 900 Hz (Very High) Copper Penny/Dime/Quarter/Dollar
You average coin hunter will be listening for the 900 Hz Very High tone and possibly 182 Hz Medium for nickels or deeper 411 Hz High for Indian Heads. Or just crank that DISC control all the way up and hear 900 Hz High only!
Frankly, this is all very well, but I have to say that I am disappointed White's did not give us independent notching capability on the M6. The machine was obviously influenced by the "listen to everything" crowd. I have no problem with having a notch system and being able to leave it all set to accept if I want to listen to everything. But I do not like having to listen to everything if I do not want to, and some ability to notch out targets would be welcome on the M6. Even the preset tabs notch on the MXT is lacking. A "Coins Only" preset notch would have been nice in lieu of an independent notch system. But as a jewelry hunter I want notching for the opposite reason. I'd like to set about VDI 60 on up to not beep. I'm only interested in low VDI numbers. So the lack of an independent notch system is my number one and possibly only complaint about the M6.
Get over it, Steve, and just learn that audio! This is at least a step up from the MXT and the constant need to refer to the VDI readout. With practice one should be able to hunt totally by ear with the M6. I will be listening for Med Low, Medium, and Med Hi tones. The sweet spot for me, not to be ignored, will be the 8 to 26 = 182 Hz (Medium) Womens Gold Rings/Nickel - Small Pull Tabs range. This is the hot rings range. I may dig this range exclusively in many parks. For sports fields I would also pay attention to the 27 to 49 = 259 Hz (Med Hi) Mens Gold Rings - Large Pull Tabs for larger mens rings. And for any easy digging areas like beaches or sand lots I'd add in -3 to 7 = 145 Hz (Med Low) Gold Earrings, Chains - Foil.
So to sum up, low tones for iron, medium tones for gold/nickels and high tones for coins. And if you'll note, that is pretty much what that IRON/GOLD/SILVER decal is trying to tell you.
The 950 coil has been redesigned and the M6 sports the new version. I was told the old version was impossible to service but the new version can be repaired if problems develop. I'm sure it is a nice coil but for my first real hunt in Hawaii with this machine I am using the 10" DD elliptical and 6" DD elliptical coils. I figure they will handle the salt and mineralized soils of Hawaii better. And I have to say I think the elliptical coils look sportier! My main goal will be to hunt micro jewelry like chains and earrings in the drier sand with the Shooter coil. I'll be using my Surf PI Pro in the wet sand and in the water. I'll try the M6 on the wet sand for fun and putting the M6 up against a PI unit is kind of unfair - but I'll do it anyway!
So what about all the stuff I've seen on other posts about M6 silver capability and other supposed new performance features? Well, I'll let others duke it out. I can't swear to have done extensive testing but this baby just seems to be a silent search MXT. The ground tracking is supposedly improved. Yeah, whatever. I normally run in fixed anyway. I do not expect any real discernible performance differences between the M6 and MXT beyond the obvious fact that the M6 lacks the alternative modes available in the MXT. I think that for those wanting versatility the MXT is worth the extra $100 bucks. In Alaska I do not expect the M6 to make a very big dent in MXT sales. But for those who want something more focused on coins and jewelry than the MXT and also want to save a few bucks the Matrix M6 will be just the ticket.
What about the competition? I have a Minelab X-Terra 50 and have made a few posts about in on the X-Terra Forum. And I have a Fisher ID Edge on the way. One of the advantages of being a multi-line dealer is I get to play with them all - lucky me! All three of these units have a street price of about $600 plus or minus, and so they are obviously going head-to-head in the marketplace. So comparisons will be drawn and some of it gets pretty silly, in my opinion.
Some may question me being a dealer. Well, all I can say is I am a detectorist first and a dealer second. I got into selling detectors because I love detecting, not vice-versa. I own and have owned all the particular brands, and so have no brand loyalty. I use what I like and what works for me, regardless of brand. As a multiline dealer I really do not care what brand a person buys. In some ways a business can be the ultimate form of democracy. People vote with their wallets, and my only goal is to stock what they want, not sell people what I want. And frankly, in my opinion my ability to use any machine I want for free removes a certain bias that I see from those who must buy their machines and therefore prove they made a smart investment. But if you think being a dealer makes me biased please stop reading right now!
On the other hand, I believe in being polite. I will not talk down a White's machine compared to a Minelab on a White's Forum or vice versa. I believe in trying to keep my comments focused on a machine in question as filtered through my own views on detecting. I like to try and use machines to their best capabilities, and so I am always looking for what is best in a detector. "How do I make this unit work for me" is how I tend to go about it. I proceed from the basic concept that they all work, and so I know for a fact that I can go out and find great finds with a White's M6, or Fisher ID Edge, or Minelab X-Terra 50.
The reason I use all of them is to see what it is I personally like about them, and I am willing to share my thoughts on the internet. But I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, and the fact is things I like matter not a whit to some people. Things that bug me about a unit may not matter at all to others. It is 90% operator, 10% machine, folks!! So lets avoid detector wars, please.
Just so you know where I am coming from.
Again, my focus is jewelry, not deep coins. So my way of looking at these units is filtered through that basic goal. I like the fact that the X-Terra 50 has independent notching. I personally feel that if Garrett can do it for $250 on the Ace 250 then any machine over $300 should offer me independent notching of targets. If you do not want to notch, fine! Just leave it off. But I expect it on all my machines from now on. A single turn knob is so 20th century! And I really, really like the X-Terra putting the whole detector in the pod. Talk about light and compact.
What I like about the M6 is the optional automatic ground balancing. I'd prefer notching of targets but I can live with learning to listen just for medium tones. The coil selection blows away the X-Terra and ID Edge; absolutely no contest there. I'm hoping the M6 will be more stable on salt sand then the X-Terra but do not know about that yet. In theory the M6 at 14 kHz should be the hottest of the three on gold, but these new high gain detectors are blurring the normal frequency differences. The X-Terra is surprisingly hot for a 7.5 kHz unit. So jury is out there. I also like the M6 ability to drop into a single tone mode which most closely mimics a true all-metal mode than the 4 tone "all-metal" on the X-Terra 50.
The ID Edge I want to try as it has a dedicated Jewelry notch which may work ok for me. It cannot be adjusted but they took a good stab at presetting it where I'd like and so it does have the abilty to hunt jewelry and not beep on zinc coins on up. Yes, I know that is crazy to many of you, but it is what some of us want. Coins are trash targets in my neck of the woods. And the unit may have some great iron/dense trash capability. But little to say about it yet as mine is still on the way.
And that is where I will be really concentrating on comparing all three units this summer. How do they separate dense trash? The M6 has the huge advantage of the small coils and so unless the other guys come out with small coils it will be nearly impossible for the X-Terra 50 or ID Edge to beat the M6 in trashy areas. Yeah, I know comparing small coils to large is not fair. I'm not trying to be artificially fair, I'm interested in which unit will work better in trash, and coils are part of that equation. Not my fault if Fisher or Minelab do not come out with small coils.
Well, that is about it for now. I'll have my laptop along and so you can expect some more posts by this weekend from Hawaii about the M6.
I want to close with a final note for White's just in case they read this. You guys discontinued the Surfmaster II, a great little underwater VLF unit and a real bargain at that. You replaced it with the Beachhunter ID, which is a somewhat lackluster machine. It needs some extra horsepower!
But better yet put the M6 in an underwater housing. This machine would be a perfect freshwater detector and ok for saltwater. I am a big believer in the Surf PI for saltwater so you got me covered there anyway. What I need is a good VLF unit for freshwater. The M6 tone system is ideal for underwater where you get no meters. But if you do put the M6 in an underwater housing, make sure you have an underwater coil connector like the Tesoro units so we can swap coils! You build me an M6 in a good waterproof housing (detachable to hip/chestmount because no pod) and they might sell better than the M6 itself. Take the LCD display away and the reliance strictly on tones makes huge sense and gives some of us that convertible box we crave. It has to be compact enough for both above water and underwater use. A true, multipurpose beach and land machine.
You listening, White's?
Steve Herschbach
Steve's Mining Journal
P.S. the edits are mostly for spelling errors.
Well, I have a new Matrix M6 and am getting ready to take it on Christmas vacation with me to Hawaii. I consider the M6 to basically be an MXT focused on the Coin & Jewelry Mode so I figured this forum to be the best place to post this.
Some background on me. I got to use the first White's MXT in Alaska, and was the first guy to find gold with it at Ganes Creek, Alaska. Story at http://www.whiteselectronics.com/mxtalaskaw.php I consider the MXT to be one of the finest multi-purpose detectors ever designed, if you define multi-purpose as meaning real good at finding gold nuggets but also good for coins, relics, jewelry, etc. I talked a lot of people into using the MXT at Ganes Creek, and so I'll take some credit for indirectly having helped prove the capability of the MXT in that arena.
<img src="http://www.recminer.com/images/m61.jpg"><br><b>My new toy, outfitted with Eclipse 10" elliptical DD coil instead of stock coil</b>
I have used the MXT for coin hunting, but frankly, like many, I thought the machine a bit "noisy" when compared to most coin detectors. And like many I also wanted something a bit better on the target id than having to eyeball numbers for every target.
White's has introduced the new Matrix M6 and in my opinion it is basically an MXT locked into Coin & Jewelry Mode, and thus is the unit designed to answer these desires on the part of MXT coin hunters. The Mode switch is gone and so there is no Relic or Prospecting Mode. The threshold is now silent and the Threshold knob has also been removed. If you turn the "SENS" knob (White's no longer calls it GAIN!) up over 100 interference starts to break through and give the impression of a ratty threshold, but it is not the same thing as a true threshold adjustment. The dual function of the DISC control has been reduced to just a single turn DISC knob as there is now no Prospecting Mode and so no SAT to adjust. The TRAC switch is now marked "Beach", "Lock Off", and "On" instead of the "Salt", "Lock", and "Ground" markings on the MXT.
So the box now has three controls instead of five. You get a combo sensitivity/power off control, single turn discrimination control, and three position ground switch.
The final control is the trigger switch. In normal center position you get the single tone of the MXT Coin & Jewelry Mode, albeit without a threshold. That good old-fashioned White's "boom box" response. Now kick the trigger switch into the locked forward position, and you get the biggest new feature on the machine - seven tone audio. The preset tab notch on the MXT C&J Mode is no longer included. Squeezing the trigger gives you the standard depth/pinpointing mode.
The M6 is based on the Pro series rod with trigger mounted in a post. Personally, I've always preferred the smaller round grip. I know others prefer the pistol grip, so this is a personal preference thing for sure. I like the trigger being truly out of the way and it is now almost impossible for the pod to ride on top of your hand. So personally I prefer the M6 rod setup over the MXT.
<img src="http://www.recminer.com/images/m62.jpg">
<b>M6 Rod and Trigger Detail</b>
The pod and LCD readout are the same as the MXT Coin & Jewelry mode. The decal has been replaced with one that shows the Coin & Jewelry Mode only and a large bar showing IRON/GOLD/SILVER that I think looks kind of nice and which reveals a certain "gold bias" on the part on the M6. One thing White's could have done here to really help out would have been to incorporate break points for the 7 tone audio into the decal. Color coding the VDI scale would have been nice but simple lines would have sufficed.
<img src="http://www.whiteselectronics.com/images/m6display.gif">
<b>Matrix M6 LCD Display</b>
The tones are the big new thing on this unit, and White's has chosen to break the VDI scale up via tones in such a way that it seems to me the unit was almost designed more for jewelry detecting than coin detecting. All the audio resolution is on the low end.
Here is White's published VDI/Tone scale:
-95 = 57Hz (Low tone)
-94 to -4 = 128 Hz
-5 to 7 = 145 Hz
8 to 26 = 182 Hz
27 to 49 = 259 Hz
50 to 70 = 411 Hz
70 to 95 = 900 (High tone) Hz
First, we have some discrepancies. The -94 to -4 = 128 Hz and -5 to 7 = 145 Hz ranges overlap at -4 and -5! I have not had time to find the exact targets to find out where the real break is. I'm guessing the -5 should have been -3. And 50 to 70 = 411 Hz overlaps with 70 to 95 = 900 Hz. So is 70 441 Hz or 900 Hz? Minor niggle but it reflects a rush to print.
Here is my interpretation of the audio scale (with guessed corrections):
-95 = 57 Hz (Very Low) Hot Rock
-94 to -4 = 128 Hz (Low) Iron Junk
-3 to 7 = 145 Hz (Med Low) Gold Earrings, Chains - Foil
8 to 26 = 182 Hz (Medium) Womens Gold Rings/Nickel - Small Pull Tabs
27 to 49 = 259 Hz (Med Hi) Mens Gold Rings - Large Pull Tabs
50 to 69 = 411 Hz (High) Zinc Penny/Indian Head Penny - Screw Caps
70 to 95 = 900 Hz (Very High) Copper Penny/Dime/Quarter/Dollar
You average coin hunter will be listening for the 900 Hz Very High tone and possibly 182 Hz Medium for nickels or deeper 411 Hz High for Indian Heads. Or just crank that DISC control all the way up and hear 900 Hz High only!
Frankly, this is all very well, but I have to say that I am disappointed White's did not give us independent notching capability on the M6. The machine was obviously influenced by the "listen to everything" crowd. I have no problem with having a notch system and being able to leave it all set to accept if I want to listen to everything. But I do not like having to listen to everything if I do not want to, and some ability to notch out targets would be welcome on the M6. Even the preset tabs notch on the MXT is lacking. A "Coins Only" preset notch would have been nice in lieu of an independent notch system. But as a jewelry hunter I want notching for the opposite reason. I'd like to set about VDI 60 on up to not beep. I'm only interested in low VDI numbers. So the lack of an independent notch system is my number one and possibly only complaint about the M6.
Get over it, Steve, and just learn that audio! This is at least a step up from the MXT and the constant need to refer to the VDI readout. With practice one should be able to hunt totally by ear with the M6. I will be listening for Med Low, Medium, and Med Hi tones. The sweet spot for me, not to be ignored, will be the 8 to 26 = 182 Hz (Medium) Womens Gold Rings/Nickel - Small Pull Tabs range. This is the hot rings range. I may dig this range exclusively in many parks. For sports fields I would also pay attention to the 27 to 49 = 259 Hz (Med Hi) Mens Gold Rings - Large Pull Tabs for larger mens rings. And for any easy digging areas like beaches or sand lots I'd add in -3 to 7 = 145 Hz (Med Low) Gold Earrings, Chains - Foil.
So to sum up, low tones for iron, medium tones for gold/nickels and high tones for coins. And if you'll note, that is pretty much what that IRON/GOLD/SILVER decal is trying to tell you.
The 950 coil has been redesigned and the M6 sports the new version. I was told the old version was impossible to service but the new version can be repaired if problems develop. I'm sure it is a nice coil but for my first real hunt in Hawaii with this machine I am using the 10" DD elliptical and 6" DD elliptical coils. I figure they will handle the salt and mineralized soils of Hawaii better. And I have to say I think the elliptical coils look sportier! My main goal will be to hunt micro jewelry like chains and earrings in the drier sand with the Shooter coil. I'll be using my Surf PI Pro in the wet sand and in the water. I'll try the M6 on the wet sand for fun and putting the M6 up against a PI unit is kind of unfair - but I'll do it anyway!
So what about all the stuff I've seen on other posts about M6 silver capability and other supposed new performance features? Well, I'll let others duke it out. I can't swear to have done extensive testing but this baby just seems to be a silent search MXT. The ground tracking is supposedly improved. Yeah, whatever. I normally run in fixed anyway. I do not expect any real discernible performance differences between the M6 and MXT beyond the obvious fact that the M6 lacks the alternative modes available in the MXT. I think that for those wanting versatility the MXT is worth the extra $100 bucks. In Alaska I do not expect the M6 to make a very big dent in MXT sales. But for those who want something more focused on coins and jewelry than the MXT and also want to save a few bucks the Matrix M6 will be just the ticket.
What about the competition? I have a Minelab X-Terra 50 and have made a few posts about in on the X-Terra Forum. And I have a Fisher ID Edge on the way. One of the advantages of being a multi-line dealer is I get to play with them all - lucky me! All three of these units have a street price of about $600 plus or minus, and so they are obviously going head-to-head in the marketplace. So comparisons will be drawn and some of it gets pretty silly, in my opinion.
Some may question me being a dealer. Well, all I can say is I am a detectorist first and a dealer second. I got into selling detectors because I love detecting, not vice-versa. I own and have owned all the particular brands, and so have no brand loyalty. I use what I like and what works for me, regardless of brand. As a multiline dealer I really do not care what brand a person buys. In some ways a business can be the ultimate form of democracy. People vote with their wallets, and my only goal is to stock what they want, not sell people what I want. And frankly, in my opinion my ability to use any machine I want for free removes a certain bias that I see from those who must buy their machines and therefore prove they made a smart investment. But if you think being a dealer makes me biased please stop reading right now!
On the other hand, I believe in being polite. I will not talk down a White's machine compared to a Minelab on a White's Forum or vice versa. I believe in trying to keep my comments focused on a machine in question as filtered through my own views on detecting. I like to try and use machines to their best capabilities, and so I am always looking for what is best in a detector. "How do I make this unit work for me" is how I tend to go about it. I proceed from the basic concept that they all work, and so I know for a fact that I can go out and find great finds with a White's M6, or Fisher ID Edge, or Minelab X-Terra 50.
The reason I use all of them is to see what it is I personally like about them, and I am willing to share my thoughts on the internet. But I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, and the fact is things I like matter not a whit to some people. Things that bug me about a unit may not matter at all to others. It is 90% operator, 10% machine, folks!! So lets avoid detector wars, please.
Just so you know where I am coming from.
Again, my focus is jewelry, not deep coins. So my way of looking at these units is filtered through that basic goal. I like the fact that the X-Terra 50 has independent notching. I personally feel that if Garrett can do it for $250 on the Ace 250 then any machine over $300 should offer me independent notching of targets. If you do not want to notch, fine! Just leave it off. But I expect it on all my machines from now on. A single turn knob is so 20th century! And I really, really like the X-Terra putting the whole detector in the pod. Talk about light and compact.
What I like about the M6 is the optional automatic ground balancing. I'd prefer notching of targets but I can live with learning to listen just for medium tones. The coil selection blows away the X-Terra and ID Edge; absolutely no contest there. I'm hoping the M6 will be more stable on salt sand then the X-Terra but do not know about that yet. In theory the M6 at 14 kHz should be the hottest of the three on gold, but these new high gain detectors are blurring the normal frequency differences. The X-Terra is surprisingly hot for a 7.5 kHz unit. So jury is out there. I also like the M6 ability to drop into a single tone mode which most closely mimics a true all-metal mode than the 4 tone "all-metal" on the X-Terra 50.
The ID Edge I want to try as it has a dedicated Jewelry notch which may work ok for me. It cannot be adjusted but they took a good stab at presetting it where I'd like and so it does have the abilty to hunt jewelry and not beep on zinc coins on up. Yes, I know that is crazy to many of you, but it is what some of us want. Coins are trash targets in my neck of the woods. And the unit may have some great iron/dense trash capability. But little to say about it yet as mine is still on the way.
And that is where I will be really concentrating on comparing all three units this summer. How do they separate dense trash? The M6 has the huge advantage of the small coils and so unless the other guys come out with small coils it will be nearly impossible for the X-Terra 50 or ID Edge to beat the M6 in trashy areas. Yeah, I know comparing small coils to large is not fair. I'm not trying to be artificially fair, I'm interested in which unit will work better in trash, and coils are part of that equation. Not my fault if Fisher or Minelab do not come out with small coils.
Well, that is about it for now. I'll have my laptop along and so you can expect some more posts by this weekend from Hawaii about the M6.
I want to close with a final note for White's just in case they read this. You guys discontinued the Surfmaster II, a great little underwater VLF unit and a real bargain at that. You replaced it with the Beachhunter ID, which is a somewhat lackluster machine. It needs some extra horsepower!
But better yet put the M6 in an underwater housing. This machine would be a perfect freshwater detector and ok for saltwater. I am a big believer in the Surf PI for saltwater so you got me covered there anyway. What I need is a good VLF unit for freshwater. The M6 tone system is ideal for underwater where you get no meters. But if you do put the M6 in an underwater housing, make sure you have an underwater coil connector like the Tesoro units so we can swap coils! You build me an M6 in a good waterproof housing (detachable to hip/chestmount because no pod) and they might sell better than the M6 itself. Take the LCD display away and the reliance strictly on tones makes huge sense and gives some of us that convertible box we crave. It has to be compact enough for both above water and underwater use. A true, multipurpose beach and land machine.
You listening, White's?
Steve Herschbach
Steve's Mining Journal
P.S. the edits are mostly for spelling errors.