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MAGIC'S PROGRAM
- Thread starter GroundScanner
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I removed the link, Rob. I'd like to discuss the program in the post below.
Rx gain 10 to start and adjust from there
Tx boost off
Disc. 88-93
All metal 70
DISCRIMINATION
Bottle cap reject off
Hot rock off
Reject -95 to -89
Accept -88 to +94
Reject +95
(if your ground phases into the -80s you will want to reject down into the -80 range.)
TONES
I set these tones to my liking and you may want to put in your own. I use higher tones for good targets that I look for. (Example...51 to 54 is Indian penny range so it gets a higher tone) I use the 5 tone on the iron range to tell where the iron is and it sounds like a ticking sound. Some people like this while others don't. I like to know whats in the ground. The more info the better for me!)
-95 to -6 =5
-5 to -1= 50
0 to +9= 150
+10 to +12 =165
+13 to +17 =175
+18 to +22 =225
+23 to +29 =175
+30 to +39 =190
+40 to +49= 200
+50= 210
+51 to +54 =225
+55 to +59 =210
+60 to +67= 220
+68 to +89 =250
+90 to +94 =255
I use three frequency in Best data
I use lock trac with a offset of +1 and ground balance every 20 minutes or so
(Watch the arrows while ground balancing and wait until they start to switch back and forth left to right before releasing.)
5 band filter. (Adjust for your ground)
Recovery speed. 50 to 100 range
( I usually hunt at 65 until I know the area, If its trashy I go to 50, if moderate I hunt at 60 to 75, and for no trash and deep I go to 80 to 100. On some rare occasions I have hunt at 120 with good results in a almost no target type field.)
I use intensity base threshold of 70
Fade rate at 4
(These are just personal preference and do not effect depth)
If you have any question about this program, please feel free to send me a PM.
This program is what I use 90% of the time and I have hit coins in the 12-14 inch range in my ground.
Note.. If hitting on a really deep target, it may be necessary to turn up your all metal to 80 to 90 in order to pinpoint on the target.
Rx gain 10 to start and adjust from there
Tx boost off
Disc. 88-93
All metal 70
DISCRIMINATION
Bottle cap reject off
Hot rock off
Reject -95 to -89
Accept -88 to +94
Reject +95
(if your ground phases into the -80s you will want to reject down into the -80 range.)
TONES
I set these tones to my liking and you may want to put in your own. I use higher tones for good targets that I look for. (Example...51 to 54 is Indian penny range so it gets a higher tone) I use the 5 tone on the iron range to tell where the iron is and it sounds like a ticking sound. Some people like this while others don't. I like to know whats in the ground. The more info the better for me!)
-95 to -6 =5
-5 to -1= 50
0 to +9= 150
+10 to +12 =165
+13 to +17 =175
+18 to +22 =225
+23 to +29 =175
+30 to +39 =190
+40 to +49= 200
+50= 210
+51 to +54 =225
+55 to +59 =210
+60 to +67= 220
+68 to +89 =250
+90 to +94 =255
I use three frequency in Best data
I use lock trac with a offset of +1 and ground balance every 20 minutes or so
(Watch the arrows while ground balancing and wait until they start to switch back and forth left to right before releasing.)
5 band filter. (Adjust for your ground)
Recovery speed. 50 to 100 range
( I usually hunt at 65 until I know the area, If its trashy I go to 50, if moderate I hunt at 60 to 75, and for no trash and deep I go to 80 to 100. On some rare occasions I have hunt at 120 with good results in a almost no target type field.)
I use intensity base threshold of 70
Fade rate at 4
(These are just personal preference and do not effect depth)
If you have any question about this program, please feel free to send me a PM.
This program is what I use 90% of the time and I have hit coins in the 12-14 inch range in my ground.
Note.. If hitting on a really deep target, it may be necessary to turn up your all metal to 80 to 90 in order to pinpoint on the target.
OK, lets talk about the program by Magic. It's a very good program but it is the Hi PRO with changes. Lets talk about if any changes help depth or performance compared to the stock program. Pretty much HiPro with different sounds. There is no Magic Bullet, ha ha, you need to learn what the settings do.
Rx gain 10 to start and adjust from there
Tx boost off Same
Disc. 88-93 Disc is hotter so more sensitive to smaller targets, but also more sensitive to small junk.
All metal 70 Hotter to see deeper, but only affects pinpoint not search.
DISCRIMINATION
Bottle cap reject off same
Hot rock off Same
Reject -95 to -89 Magic is rejecting his ground reading range. Your ground will probably be different.
Accept -88 to +94 Magic wants to hear ferrous metals -88 to -1, sets to 5 tone. Some don't like the noise.
Reject +95 same
(if your ground phases into the -80s you will want to reject down into the -80 range.)
TONES
I set these tones to my liking and you may want to put in your own. I use higher tones for good targets that I look for. (Example...51 to 54 is Indian penny range so it gets a higher tone) I use the 5 tone on the iron range to tell where the iron is and it sounds like a ticking sound. Some people like this while others don't. I like to know whats in the ground. The more info the better for me!)
-95 to -6 =5 Just what Doug likes to hear, all our hearing is different. No affect on performance.
-5 to -1= 50
0 to +9= 150
+10 to +12 =165
+13 to +17 =175
+18 to +22 =225 Makes nickels stand out, I do the same.
+23 to +29 =175
+30 to +39 =190
+40 to +49= 200
+50= 210
+51 to +54 =225
+55 to +59 =210
+60 to +67= 220
+68 to +89 =250
+90 to +94 =255
I use three frequency in Best data same
I use lock trac with a offset of +1 and ground balance every 20 minutes or so. Doug changed back to zero offset. same
(Watch the arrows while ground balancing and wait until they start to switch back and forth left to right before releasing.)
5 band filter. (Adjust for your ground) same
Recovery speed. 50 to 100 range same
( I usually hunt at 65 until I know the area, If its trashy I go to 50, if moderate I hunt at 60 to 75, and for no trash and deep I go to 80 to 100. On some rare occasions I have hunt at 120 with good results in a almost no target type field.)
I use intensity base threshold of 70 very close, Hi Pro is 65.
Fade rate at 4 As Magic said doesn't afffect performance and is very close to HI PRO. It just changes how screen looks. Where Hi Pro differs from other programs.
(These are just personal preference and do not effect depth)
Note.. If hitting on a really deep target, it may be necessary to turn up your all metal to 80 to 90 in order to pinpoint on the target. Has nothing to do with the program.
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Rx gain 10 to start and adjust from there
Tx boost off Same
Disc. 88-93 Disc is hotter so more sensitive to smaller targets, but also more sensitive to small junk.
All metal 70 Hotter to see deeper, but only affects pinpoint not search.
DISCRIMINATION
Bottle cap reject off same
Hot rock off Same
Reject -95 to -89 Magic is rejecting his ground reading range. Your ground will probably be different.
Accept -88 to +94 Magic wants to hear ferrous metals -88 to -1, sets to 5 tone. Some don't like the noise.
Reject +95 same
(if your ground phases into the -80s you will want to reject down into the -80 range.)
TONES
I set these tones to my liking and you may want to put in your own. I use higher tones for good targets that I look for. (Example...51 to 54 is Indian penny range so it gets a higher tone) I use the 5 tone on the iron range to tell where the iron is and it sounds like a ticking sound. Some people like this while others don't. I like to know whats in the ground. The more info the better for me!)
-95 to -6 =5 Just what Doug likes to hear, all our hearing is different. No affect on performance.
-5 to -1= 50
0 to +9= 150
+10 to +12 =165
+13 to +17 =175
+18 to +22 =225 Makes nickels stand out, I do the same.
+23 to +29 =175
+30 to +39 =190
+40 to +49= 200
+50= 210
+51 to +54 =225
+55 to +59 =210
+60 to +67= 220
+68 to +89 =250
+90 to +94 =255
I use three frequency in Best data same
I use lock trac with a offset of +1 and ground balance every 20 minutes or so. Doug changed back to zero offset. same
(Watch the arrows while ground balancing and wait until they start to switch back and forth left to right before releasing.)
5 band filter. (Adjust for your ground) same
Recovery speed. 50 to 100 range same
( I usually hunt at 65 until I know the area, If its trashy I go to 50, if moderate I hunt at 60 to 75, and for no trash and deep I go to 80 to 100. On some rare occasions I have hunt at 120 with good results in a almost no target type field.)
I use intensity base threshold of 70 very close, Hi Pro is 65.
Fade rate at 4 As Magic said doesn't afffect performance and is very close to HI PRO. It just changes how screen looks. Where Hi Pro differs from other programs.
(These are just personal preference and do not effect depth)
Note.. If hitting on a really deep target, it may be necessary to turn up your all metal to 80 to 90 in order to pinpoint on the target. Has nothing to do with the program.
[attachment 264581 wantsyou.jpg]
GroundScanner
Active member
TY
Those are close to what I set at also but I only use about 5 blocks of tones. Lots of iron from +95 and-40 to-95 set at zero-41 to -5 set at 5. Andreak stated at one time that the rejecting of tones from -95 to where ever had no bearing on the ground balance so I accept everything. And I use a highly modified coin and jewlery as my platform to start,And i modified the stereo mixed mode in a simalar fashion for field hunting and it works very well also. You just have to play and know what settings do and you can make any number of combinations of setting for many different areas and situations. Thats part of the beauty of this machine. No matter what if it aint there you cant find it. Yazoo
Rob I just do not think that there is anybody that can't create a program yet on his or hers detector, but the point is where all did found many with all brands models and there are not as many goods to find now. So most of them now would probably needs to do something about their detectors performance in need to get the hardest remain targets. So I do not think that anybody cares about about who's program works best for the one that created it but if there is anything else that they should know.
Rob you are doing a good work over here , I meant it's a place here for everybody to ask and say what it's beneficial for his self, nobody is getting paid or paying anybody to get answers from anybody. We are just chatting and trying to get what is good for each one of us individually. And this is what makes this place at the end very informative.
I use this in Pittsburgh and it's the BEAST program!
hunted today for 4 hours....
hunted in a city park that has literally been hit a ZILLION TIMES!
everything I hit was 8-13" deep
I hit more oldies than clad because even pull tabs, caps, and foil are hunted out in the city parks!
5 wheaties, 2 clad pennies, 1 clad dime, 1961 silver dime, 1905 indian head penny...
not bad for 4 hours with magic on the V3i?
hunted today for 4 hours....
hunted in a city park that has literally been hit a ZILLION TIMES!
everything I hit was 8-13" deep
I hit more oldies than clad because even pull tabs, caps, and foil are hunted out in the city parks!
5 wheaties, 2 clad pennies, 1 clad dime, 1961 silver dime, 1905 indian head penny...
not bad for 4 hours with magic on the V3i?
You might benifit from a stereo mixed mode verion of deep silver with the same sorta tweaks as yr Magic program basicaly the same program you run but in stereo mixed mode and single freq or best data if gold might be there and check out using a 300 coil if you got one in a area like that. At least I would try that for it sounds like very sweet spot to hunt.Looks like you are doing very well already .Good luck Yazoo
Thanks for the advice. I just got my V3i about 2 months ago. Coming from an Etrac that I hammered and tweaked for the last 2 years. I am still learning the V3i and taking it all in, especially from the vets who know the V3i very good. I am a computer and programing junkie, so I like all this and couldn't wait to get the V3i. I spend 10X more time reading, researching, and messing with stuff than I have had the V3i in the field...LOL. But that's just me, and when I can't get out in the field.
I just picked up a brand new 4x6DD Shooter coil and rod from White's (I had $200 White's Bonus Bucks to spend so I grabbed that and a bag). I have not even had it out on the ground yet. I wonder how good it will be and with my programs I have(?). The 300 concentric coil? What do you think would be the big difference in that compared to the 10"DD and running this program in that hunt spot?
I just picked up a brand new 4x6DD Shooter coil and rod from White's (I had $200 White's Bonus Bucks to spend so I grabbed that and a bag). I have not even had it out on the ground yet. I wonder how good it will be and with my programs I have(?). The 300 concentric coil? What do you think would be the big difference in that compared to the 10"DD and running this program in that hunt spot?
Area coverd first off.Dont know where your ground DC phases in at but might be you can pick up a bit more depth with the 300 ,plus the fact of more targets inside your field coil projection possibly by being a cone shape signal versus the blade like shape of the DD. As for the shooter so long as its not cranked up to high it is great around fences and play ground equiptment,also can get though lots of trash slow and steady along with in open area it can be cranked up pretty good with good depth results for such a small coil. the shooter works good with most any programs. I use a 10X14 butterfly coil alot it gets about a 1 inch or so better depth for the most part. My ground DC phases in at say - 87to -93. Biggest things is what coil works best for you I your situations.
Yazoo
Yazoo
jurgen1664
New member
Hi
I have a question maybe a little stupid. In the program, the basic threshold of 65 to 70 is increased? What good is he? I mean that he plays on the performance or is it more a story of comfort?
I tested the program, and I was surprised because I have increased the sensitivity without the unit is destabilized provided. I turned around 90, whereas before I had a sensitivity of 80.
I have a question maybe a little stupid. In the program, the basic threshold of 65 to 70 is increased? What good is he? I mean that he plays on the performance or is it more a story of comfort?
I tested the program, and I was surprised because I have increased the sensitivity without the unit is destabilized provided. I turned around 90, whereas before I had a sensitivity of 80.
jurgen1664
New member
Another question, can you tell me if I make a mistake. I setup intensity base threshold in configure=> Live search screen => search => spectragraph => intensity base threshold, is that good?
jurgen1664 said:
Jurgen read your manual first of all and forum. Stay on the factory presets until you learn the detector. I hunt almost a year now with the v3i and the only thing I do is to Ground balance and I hunt most of the times with the 'coin and jewelery' program with impressive results. It's like you are trying to learn a foreign language before you get a dictionary with others people programs.
It is not the basic threshold, it is the BASE Threshold. Check it in your manual. If you still have questions I will explain it deeper. It has nothing to do with the threshold you hear.
This is from mt links at the top of the forum.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?66,1863261
This is from mt links at the top of the forum.
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?66,1863261
I have been running this program for a cpl weeks now and really like it, but I have a few questions.
I have mostly been hunting at my 1860s house (4 acres) and it is full of rusty nails and what not....so here is my problem:
I notice I get a soild repeatable high tone in the 80s a lot of times, but I get this tone between 2 pieces of iron or nails...Meaning,
when I go to pinpoint, I get no signal where the good signal is, but there is always a pp/iron signal to the left and right of this good signal.
I am guessing the ends of the nails might be giving these signals off? Is there something I can change so I'm not getting these signals.
I can tell when a single nail is giving off a good signal from the tip, but it seems like this dual nail/iron thing is really throwing me through a loop because
the signal is so good.
thanks.
I have mostly been hunting at my 1860s house (4 acres) and it is full of rusty nails and what not....so here is my problem:
I notice I get a soild repeatable high tone in the 80s a lot of times, but I get this tone between 2 pieces of iron or nails...Meaning,
when I go to pinpoint, I get no signal where the good signal is, but there is always a pp/iron signal to the left and right of this good signal.
I am guessing the ends of the nails might be giving these signals off? Is there something I can change so I'm not getting these signals.
I can tell when a single nail is giving off a good signal from the tip, but it seems like this dual nail/iron thing is really throwing me through a loop because
the signal is so good.
thanks.
Larry (IL)
Well-known member
I think you answered your own question broevol. If your pinpoint is not directly over where you got a good signal, you are not over a good target. You might notice that you will have some red in the Signagraph in the iron range as well. I don't know of any way to not get the iron carryover, it happens to all detectors that I have tried. There are some things to try like rejecting -95, +95 and +94 and others that might help.