M6 is long overdue for an .....................

[Steve(MS)]

I have been in the process of "coaxing" a few answers about the CM GT.
It has good feature set for its price point.

 

[khouse]

Now that they added the trac lock and beach setting back on I'm reall interested. I already have a heavier deep silver machine. I want another lightweight tot lot,ball field clad and jewelry hunter. I like a modulated target response and that's why I'm asking.....

 

[larryk56]

I had the M6 at one time and thought it was a dandy.
Sounds were crisp, pinpoints easy and never thought the weight
was that much of an issue.

Its one of those detectors that I should of kept.

 

[Topo]

One thing I'll add about the metal box is that it's worth it's weight!!! I accidentally ran over my V3i last week after forgetting to out it into the car when I though I already had. The front wheel went over the left side of the box!

After a few choice words, I pulled the detector out of the bag and looked it over. The left side is somewhat squished and the box is now slightly angled. It took some effort to get the battery out and the motherboard has a slight bow to it. BUT, it still works, I went out for another four hours later and it performed very well! I'm sending it back for repair because it's a lot easier for dirt and water to get inside since the upper and lower halves don't seal together anymore. Hopefully they'll only have to give me a new bottom box.

There's no way a plastic box would've survived this.

when people say built like a tank, they mean it

 

[Monte]

To clarify, for new readers who might not know the differences, I'll offer this background on these references.

Modulated Audio: Going back to most of our metal detector designs of the '60s, '70's and early '80s, we didn't really need to use the term "modulated" because most detectors just were. BFO's TR's, TR-Disc., VLF and VLF/TR-Disc. detectors and out early motion-based VLF-Discriminators processed the target responses with a modulated audio, meaning close targets produced the loudest audio, and as the coil-to-target distance increased we would hear a weaker-and-weaker, fainter-and fainter response until there was no response. That is a true modulated audio.

As time progressed and detector design and coil design improved, it was easy to note that a strong audio response could be heard near the coil, or even out a few inches from the coil, that was about the same. Then, after the target was away from the coil perhaps 3"-4" we then heard the audio strength start to modulate more and drop off, getting weaker until the faintest/deepest target could just barely be heard.

Then came another George Payne detector design that changed things. George brought us the VLF Ground Cancelling models, then in '78 the Bounty Hunter Red Baron with the first (very fast sweep) motion-based GB Discrimination. In the '80s, with his designs of the then new Teknetics brand, they bought out Bounty Hunter because they needed a larger size search coil (and that gave them the 10" coils that was already in production), and it also gave them a model (brand) that could fill the lower-priced detector market their big-dollar Teknetics CoinComputers didn't cover.

For those who can recall back to the latter '80s, about a quarter-of-a-century ago, we saw the arrival of the Bounty Hunter Big Bud and Big Bud Pro. It's kind of fitting to this forum topic, in a way, because I preferred the burgundy color of the Big Bud Pro to the black colored Big Bud, and here we are discussing function of the burgundy Coinmaster GT to the same-performance black Prizm 6T. Anyway, one of the features of the Big Bud Pro that made it popular with so many hobbyists was the loud audio response from even deeper located targets.

This was, in my memory, the first fully Saturated Audio detector that was popular and set a trend. There was no 'weak' signal or 'faint' signal at all. The circuitry design used what was referred to as "clipped filters" which, in simple terms, meant that to process the audio response it required a certain signal strength. ALL targets that met that minimum 'clipped filter' requirement were then processed and applied with a full-strength audio report.

If the target response was too weak or faint and didn't make that strength requirement to be processed, they were simply 'clipped.' That is, they were not processed at all. So, the Saturated Audio response meant that you might not get maximum depth of detection because there were no weak or faint signals processed. However, with a 'Saturated' audio every target that was processed was done so with a maximum audio beep. A true Saturated Audio detector works that way.

Now, to the Coinmaster GT and several other modern-day detector designs, and to answer your question about the Coin CT audio response.

Does the Coin GT have a Saturated Audio Response? .... No, not a fully Saturated audio. Yes, it has a somewhat Saturated response for

 

[khouse]

Thanks Monte. Always a great explanation. I always thought the 6T was overpriced being it was close in price to the M6. Once even the same exact price.. Now the CMGT is a great choice over the 6T with the same features. It should be a winner.

 

[Willee - Texas]

It is one of the deepest detecting machines that White's makes.
I own an Etrac, A V3i, and the M6 will find deeper targets.
Perhaps it is because I dont yet know how to set the V3i u for max depth yet but the Etrac I am very experienced with.

Happy M6 user.

 

[ronhob]

It's light weight aluminum, not heavy gauge steel. I doubt plastic would be much lighter. I'd rather have mine be well built.

 

[Carolina Phil]

It could be called a M5 maybe?

 

[khouse]

You can put a bag over the display on the m6 and see how you like it? I had a Classic 3 because I thought I was missing stuff with my IDX. But after a short time I sold my C3 and bought another IDX.

 

[Woodchuck]

Ya won't have to worry about the M6 for long I got from a source that M6 is due to be dropped from Whites line up along with another in the line up

 

[khouse]

I hope they're not thinking the Prizm 6T and/or Coinmaster GT is going to take the M6's place.... ? However I don't see the need for the 6T when the CMGT has the exact features at a lower cost.

 

[basstrackerman]

The mxt pro has thr features of the m6 and mxt combined...plus more...ive said they will drop the m6 &mxt for a while..then maybe drop the price on the mxtpro to $799...

 

[Willee - Texas]

Looks like I better sell my M6 ... if it works when I get it back from White's repair.
It went crazy in the field ... check it with another coil and it was still crazy.
Sent it to White's repair ... they replaced the coil and calibrated the unit and sent it back minus the battery box I sent with it.
Tesed it with a battery from my V3i ... it worked but the VDI numbers were all about half of what they should have been.
A quarter read VDI=30 and a gold ring was rejected as iron.
I called and was told that cant happen as it is checked by two people before it is shipped back.
I guess since they did not charge me anything ... I got what I payed for and should be happy.
So ... back it went to White's again.
Opps ... screwed up and left my rechargable battery in it.
Called White's 5 days after shipping the detector to let them know the battery was in there and I wanted it back ... and to ask if they found a problem or still thought it was working properly.
Got connected to Mary ... She would not let me talk to a tech but said she would leave a note that I called and they might (or might not) call me back and answer my question. (still holding my breath)
I just wanted to know if they found a problem or not (they sure didnt last time) and to please send my battery pack back with it.
I would think, with the service history of this detector, they would take a few minutes to talk to me about it.

So ... if you ever call White's and get connected to Mary you can forget about talking to a tech.
Hang up and try again some other day. good luck.

Willee
Corpus Christi Texas

 

[Willee - Texas]

Oh Well ... got the M6 back today ... it works (HURRAY!) but they did not send my rechargablr battery back ... they sent me a NEW rechargable battery.
BLUE Lable ... my battery was a RED lable ... a red lable charger will not charge a blue lable battery.
All I wanted was MY battery back because it goes with my V3i.
So now I must decide wheather to spend more time and shipping expense dealing with White's service or just go buy a new charger and forget it.
Perhaps if Mary would have let me talk to the tech last time I called this would have been worked out by now.
The note she said she would leave for the tech sure did not do it.

Willee
Corpus Christi, Texas.

Looks like I better sell my M6 ... if it works when I get it back from White's repair.
It went crazy in the field ... check it with another coil and it was still crazy.
Sent it to White's repair ... they replaced the coil and calibrated the unit and sent it back minus the battery box I sent with it.
Tested it with a battery from my V3i ... it worked but the VDI numbers were all about half of what they should have been.
A quarter read VDI=30 and a gold ring was rejected as iron.
I called and was told that cant happen as it is checked by two people before it is shipped back.
I guess since they did not charge me anything ... I got what I payed for and should be happy.
So ... back it went to White's again.
Opps ... screwed up and left my rechargable battery in it.
Called White's 5 days after shipping the detector to let them know the battery was in there and I wanted it back ... and to ask if they found a problem or still thought it was working properly.
Got connected to Mary ... She would not let me talk to a tech but said she would leave a note that I called and they might (or might not) call me back and answer my question.
I just wanted to know if they found a problem or not (they sure didnt last time) and to please send my battery pack back with it.
I would think, with the service history of this detector, they would take a few minutes to talk to me about it.

So ... if you ever call White's and get connected to Mary you can forget about talking to a tech.
Hang up and try again some other day. good luck.

Willee
Corpus Christi Texas

 

[Nauti]

If it aint broke,dont fix it.As far as simplicity and performance go the M6 is probably one of the best detectors ever made.I no longer have mine...i moved to the coast and bought a detector that was better suited to the wet sand.This is not to say you cannot use the m6 on wet sand...you can and it is even fairly good for this purpose and certainly better than the mxt.Overall it is a fantastic detector and I hope they do not change it too much.

 

[CWRelichunter]

I would say that the GT has BOTH Modulated and Saturated audio......Turn "ON" VCO (Tone ID) in all-metal mode (actually ZERO Disc mode ) and you have Modulated audio......Turn "OFF" VCO (Tone ID) in the all-metal mode and you have SATURATED audio. Users choice.

I search with VCO "off", and then switch to VCO "on" when hitting a target. The easy access touch controls make switching back & forth a breeze.

This GT is growing on me...I have ordered the Prizm 950 coil, and an off-brand 12x13 coil to see what they can do on the GT. The stock spider/spoked 9in coil is not a favorite of mine. Looks, weight, or sweep feel.

J in FL

 

[khouse]

Thinking about getting one for my clad and jewelry tot lot and sand machine. But I think I'll wait to see if any manufacturer comes out with an ATpro like machine in the spring.

 

[Monte]

definitely applies to the excellent M6. For a reasonable price, the simplicity of controls, the excellent MXT-like performance in the Coin & Jewelry Disc. mode, ale size and easy-to-read TID and VDI display, the M6 is (in my personal opinion) an ideal coin-hunting detector for almost anyone.

Yes, some models ou there cost less, but hey as might come up a little short on all-around performance. I know, I know ... some models (even at a lower suggested retail price) might even have a few more adjustment functions. But if I didn't have my #1 use MXT Pro and #2 VX3 in my detector arsenal, I can guarantee you I'd have an M6 and (as I do now with my MXT Pro and did with the 5 M6's I've owned in the past) I would keep the 6

 

[khouse]

I would like to see a M6pro model. Backlight, several tone ID options and ground grab on the pod just like the MXTpro.