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Lots of fun and finds testing the small coils over the last couple of weeks:super:

"Bryce always talks about the thrill of finding things in hammered, "hunted out" parks that you KNOW have been missed many times by other detectorists. I have begun to experience just a little of that, and I agree -- there IS a unique thrill involved. Sure, a multiple silver day on a more "virgin" site is a thrill, but finding a goodie or two in places that are said to be "hunted out" is different, but thrilling in its own way!

Steve"

Boy you just said a mouth full there Steve it is a bigger thrill now to do just that. I guess after a year or 2 of the newness of finding finally some goodies like many silver coins and multiple silver days that it's neat to see if your skills now will allow you to find the one that all others so far have missed in supposed hunted out spots.
 
I think I need to try you or Dave's 6x8 coil for starters at one of our field sites. I don't have anything other than the pro coil but after seeing what the smaller ones can do I am giving it some thought. Good deal for me because I can try some of yours to see what i like best...lol.
 
Good stuff bud. Your patience and persistence is unlike anyone Ive seen.
 
sgoss66 said:
You are right, Tom.

I remember back, when I would read all the time about guys who would use smaller coils to find stuff hidden in the trash, stuff in "hunted out" areas that many, many other hunters had obviously walked over in the past. But to me, as a less experienced detectorist, those stories sounded almost mythic. But eventually, I started to make these finds as well. I still remember the first few targets I ever found, using a smaller coil, that I KNOW that either I, or someone else, had missed with a larger coil (and probably missed many, many times, in fact). These first few "partially masked" finds with the smaller coil really left an impression on me; it really builds your confidence as a detectorist that finding stuff that others have missed IS not only POSSIBLE, but PROBABLE, as you learn more about your machine and the coils you are using, and about the hobby in general.

I borrowed a friend's 5" SunRay, with the intention of testing it to see what I think. This post has convinced me to simply buy it from him. I look forward to "unmasking" even MORE goodies that have been missed in the "hunted out" areas that I hunt.

Bryce always talks about the thrill of finding things in hammered, "hunted out" parks that you KNOW have been missed many times by other detectorists. I have begun to experience just a little of that, and I agree -- there IS a unique thrill involved. Sure, a multiple silver day on a more "virgin" site is a thrill, but finding a goodie or two in places that are said to be "hunted out" is different, but thrilling in its own way!

Steve
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"Hunted out sites" are all I know. I am not a "door knocker" and probably never will be. I have nothing against those who do...and in fact it's a great way to increase your finds...and also a blast to get your coil over unpounded turf every now and then. To me however there is absolutely no challenge in that. It is relatively easy to find keeper coins in a yard that no-one or very few have hunted before.
It has nothing to do with "knowing your machine"...being a "skilled hunter"...."having patience"...etc...it simply means that nobody has hunted it before...so you find a ton of keeper coins in each yard...then move on.

To be truthful...that would mean absolutely nothing to me...because I'm not into the hobby for that.

It has never been about that for me. I like to find peace and solace instead...as well as "tune in" to the machine and site. If the finds come...great. If not...I have had fun anyway.

I absolutely love the challenge of trying to find one more keeper from sites that myself and hundreds of others have been hammering for the last 35 years...and trust me...that's where I do 90% of my hunting at.

Sure it has been fun hunting some fields this year...and a couple of farm houses...but I spend 90% of my time methodically creeping through my same public sites trying to hone my skills and pop one more keeper out each time.

It isn't for everyone....but it IS for me:angel:

All this veing said...I have a couple of buddies who will get us permission to hunt a house site, private yard, or field site every now and then...and we always have a blast doing so.:thumbup: It's a great change of pace for me.

Did you pick up your X-5 yet?
 
Bryce --

I do have the X-5, just ordered a rod for it, and so I'm going to put it to the test here shortly!

I enjoyed reading your reply. I can fully appreciate your approach; like I said, I have finally found that managing a couple of tough finds in a hammered, public park is a really unique experience -- I can now understand your perspective!

I'm looking forward to 2012... :)

Steve
 
I've got to say Bryce knows his coils.
Do you live close to Madison?
In the land of the Scullion.
 
I use the BBS version of the X-5/S-5. I must admit I've hardly used that coil because I love my 12x10 so much, but one of the few times I used it in a trashy old park it produced. This is one of the trashiest old parks I've ever hunted, and it had been a good 4 or 5 years since I had pulled any more silver out of it (but I don't exactly hit this park all that often....maybe three times a year). Anyway, this is also probably one of the most pounded parks in my area due to all the stories floating around of the great coins that have come out of there.

I was hunting by a tree when about 3 to 5" away from the trunk I get a nice deep sweet sounding coin signal that sounded about 6 or 7" deep. It was in between two shallow 2 to 3" tab signals that surrounded it. Out popped a rosie. That was impressive. I doubt a larger coil could see that coin due to the two shallow tabs on either side of it that were very close. Not only that, but I believe the tree kept a larger coil from being able to center over the dime to even have a chance at seeing it through the tabs.

I'm impressed with the depth of this coil. I can often run at full blast sensitivity with it. That 6 or 7" dime hit so hard that I bet it could have been another 2 or maybe even 3 inches deep and I would still have had no trouble hearing it.

Here's what's so impressive to me...In my somewhat mineralized soils (not all are mineralized, but many) all the non-Minelab machines I ever owned were lucky to get say a max of 7.5" deep on a dime using a standard 8 to 10" coil. And yet this little gem S-5 is easily getting me that deep and deeper (it appears) on a dime! Now THAT'S impressive! The 5 or 6" Whites coils I used on my prior Whites models were lucky to do 4 or 5" tops in my soil on a good day, and those were somewhat bigger coils than the S-5, which is 5.5" in diameter. Something about a small DD coil that I believe actually gives them more depth than a similar sized concentric...When we are talking real small coils. Not sure why that is, but I have read others say that as well.
 
After reading all the posts and reviews available, I decided to buy a 6" Exclerator Coil ... wow ... one of the smartest things I've done !

After using this little coil over 1000" hrs. - I've lost track of how many great finds I've made that my larger coil missed or finds that were recovered from over grown areas - where there was just not enough room to swing a bigger coil.
At one site I found (12) coins with 1800's dates on them ( including a 1837 Capped Bust Half Dime) in a very heavily infested iron area .
When I say heavy iron - we're literally talking about an average of five to ten old rusty nails or other pieces of iron per hole!

So from what I've learned so far ... if I could only own one coil - hands down ... it would be a 5" to 7" coil !

HH - Mark
 
Great post Bryce, i agree about the fun part.I have been using an x5 here lately, NOT looking for old coins,
but jewelry searching.
That thing is ruining me, you can really sort out the signals with it, just cant cover a whole lot of ground at one time.
But i am having a blast with it.
found the gold ring with it,and several other pieces of jewelry.
It has gotten to the point that i don't want to put the pro coil back on,Seriously.
But i will,if i am hunting for some old deep coins.

Anyway, just wanted to express how much i like those small coils.
 
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