If I could buy an Nox 800 today I would but the Kruzer is on the radar also. Relics1864 posted a video reviewing the Kruzer and it passed the nail test even down the barrel with the stock large coil. I don't think the Nox with the stock coil will pass the nail test 100%, atleast I haven't seen it yet. And from what I see no modulation on the Nox. I know multi frequency is the buzz but it didn't work well for me in my soil with Explorer or CTX. Analyzing that many frequencies slows everything down, mainly recovery speed. The Nox may have that conquered with the speed of modern processors. There's a lot to be said for super analyzing one frequency though.
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Kruzer vs Equinox..... Need some help
- Thread starter goldlubber
- Start date
Southwind
Well-known member
I wouldn't go that far as I've never tried the Kruzer but just heard people compare it to the Impact which was no comparison to the NOX. Heck I like the Race 2 better than the Impact.
I would say that I also feel the Kruzer doesn't seem to be bring much new to the table. Just another mid-line detector is all I've seen in reviews and videos. I have yet to see you others in the class with the Multi-IQ yet. Proving to be a game changer in a short time. I believe, in time, the NOX will be the one other are judged by.
C
calabash digger
Guest
Nail board test are fine but the real deal is 3 d nail test where the iron is above the target. The racer 2 did well on same plain nail test that I tried but didn't do so hot on the 3 d test I tried back when I had it. I did a video where I talk about the Equinox multi IQ and the single freqs of the Deus. It would apply here to the kruzer too and actually all single freq vlf detectors.
They are both air tests and can't duplicate in ground conditions but it does give some useful information. I haven't seen a multi frequency detector pass the nail board test the way a Kruzer does without a small coil. In your test area you have a buried flat button with a nail over it both the Deus and Nox hit. Also some other targets with nails. I wouldn't group all VLF single freq machines together, my racer wouldn't pass the nail board test the way the Kruzer does so there's something different.
https://youtu.be/gqYG_Wg8cNs
Since we've opened the single freq can of worms check out this video. Co-located nails, nails over targets, it's got it all. I wish scannerguy1968 would test a Nox, these are the best tests I've seen.
https://youtu.be/gqYG_Wg8cNs
Since we've opened the single freq can of worms check out this video. Co-located nails, nails over targets, it's got it all. I wish scannerguy1968 would test a Nox, these are the best tests I've seen.
Joedaddy276
New member
That kieth southern test is a good one.calabash your in que to do this with the nox!? Lol
Southwind
Well-known member
I've never been impressed by any of the nail board tests after doing the same with my 20 year old tech DFX. Actually I don't put a lot of weight behind any fresh target tests. Like the air test you can get some general ideas, but no real world comparisons. Unfortunately I don't hunt for coins near boards with nails on them or freshly buried. Give it 50-100 years then you can do some good comparing.
Joedaddy276
New member
You don't think if it can see it in nails on the ground that it can in the ground the same,within it's depth range?I don't know how being in the ground forr years makes a difference andc I mean i dont know.to me if your testing several detectors on the same test and one unmasks better than it just does better.i feel like alot of these detectors in the same price range are pretty close to each other on performance and everyone likes what they like but if I see a nail test and one out performs the other to me that machine can see what the other couldnt!
nenadgbeepin
Member
calabash digger said:
He likes running them like that. You can run the Kruzer very stable if you wish.
From least sparky to most sparky:
Gen/All-metal
Beach
3-tone (up to Sens 89)
2-tone
3-tone (over Sens 89)
4-tone
Deep
Also some frequencies will be quieter than others depending on where you are, then for each freq you have freq shift.
Southwind said:
Absolutely agree. I take all these tests with a grain of salt. We simply can't duplicate in ground conditions, especially the time factor. They are interesting and provide some information. Most machines can pass the nail board test with a small coil, but put a larger coil on and things change. The Tejon with 9x8 concentric is the best I've seen. The Kruzer passed it 100% with the stock 11x7 coil I haven't seen another machine do that. I haven't seen the Nox pass it with the stock coil, from what I've seen I don't think it can ( I hope to be proven wrong on that because I'm buying one) small coil no problem.
If you want to argue the validity of the nail board test go ask Monte. I'm not going to, the last question I asked him kicked off a 500 word dissertation.
Some of my spots seem like I'm hunting a nail board test, shallow nails masking good targets, just minus the board. Ha