After reading all these horror stories on the F75, a once confident and eager person has now turned into a doubting Thomas. I have heard they get great depth...but is it worth the risk to trade my MXT w/ 10x14 Excelerator Coil for a used F75? Would it really be much deeper? I get bout 9inches 10 at the most with it...Some input would be appreciated.
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KEEP MXT or sell and get used F75????
- Thread starter Sentinel
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Low-Boy/LCPM
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You are going to get the same run around, sell, buy, keep!
I tested a MXT in California and the F75 and the F75 won hands down. Better programing. lighter, faster, night light, better depth. No coils as of yet but the standard one is about as tight as a large DD coil comes if not better then anything I have tried.
The more I use it the more I don't use my four other top of the line detectors. It is great for coins in grass. And great for relic hunting if we had a small coil I would go back to a lot of tight places and I am sure pull out a few more finds. White's needed to come out with it's own state of the art machine and I guess they can't seem to get there.
Even Minelab came out with another detector and an up grade and I have tired them both and the F75 for me is still my cup of tea.
I would not get the F75 less there is a warranty. Even no there were a lot of problems I had nothing but a learning curve but never had a problem.
No detector if perfect but the F75 is a great machine like a MXT, T2 all rolled up into a light machine.
I tested a MXT in California and the F75 and the F75 won hands down. Better programing. lighter, faster, night light, better depth. No coils as of yet but the standard one is about as tight as a large DD coil comes if not better then anything I have tried.
The more I use it the more I don't use my four other top of the line detectors. It is great for coins in grass. And great for relic hunting if we had a small coil I would go back to a lot of tight places and I am sure pull out a few more finds. White's needed to come out with it's own state of the art machine and I guess they can't seem to get there.
Even Minelab came out with another detector and an up grade and I have tired them both and the F75 for me is still my cup of tea.
I would not get the F75 less there is a warranty. Even no there were a lot of problems I had nothing but a learning curve but never had a problem.
No detector if perfect but the F75 is a great machine like a MXT, T2 all rolled up into a light machine.
Can you keep both, or is it a cashflow thing? I am sold on my MXT with a 14" Excelerator coil for relics. I just got a new F75, yesterday. I haven't used it relic hunting yet, but have run in through my test garden and honestly say the depth is comparable. It's light weight and HOT. My ONLY gripe would be that I wish it had two tone response in All Metal, like the MXT. I'm not giving up on my MXT for relics yet...but the thought has crossed my mind.
keep on diggin'
jimmyk in Missouri
keep on diggin'
jimmyk in Missouri
Mark in NC
Member
I sincerely hate it for these guys who are having problems... However, please realize there are also a lot of folks who are not having any issues. I'm one of the guys with a great working F75 and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I really hope the ones with problems can get them sorted out because it is an incredible detector.
Bobbylikesgold
New member
Keep your MXT till F/T fix the chatter problem , those that have got back a smooth unit may be surprised by its loss of deeph !! compaired with the original chatter unit :clsoedeyes:
Bobby.
Bobby.
Bobbylikesgold
New member
KurkB, Thank you for the inquire, your terminology was blunt, best I respond as same.
Test a smooth unit against a chatter unit regarding depth on a known target
When you have done so then tell us.
Bobby.
Test a smooth unit against a chatter unit regarding depth on a known target
When you have done so then tell us.
Bobby.
I would like to compare to another but I'm the only one I know of around here that has one. Did you do this comparison to find out about the depth loss? Air test or ground target? How deep? Settings? I'm just trying to get as much information as I can. I sent mine back shortly after getting it and FT said it was working ok. Since then I am on my third set of batteries and have found some nice things but none over six inches deep. It's still chattery but Ive learned to live with it. Didn't mean to be so blunt on my first response but I really hate typing.
Bobbylikesgold
New member
Hello Kurt,
I've had conversations privately with limited number of F75 users in the last 2 months, some seem to agree that F/T may have sopped up this detector to far , some thought a passable loss of depth was the payoff for a quieter machine , almost every new user will need mentoring, F/T pushing the limits of the possible they may have crossed the zone of what can be done with this technology.
As for depth, best reports are about 8" on coins so far in mild ground .
Try a test don't just bury a coin, hammer a metal rod at 45Degrees into your soil , then push the coin down to a known depth, refill the probe hole tight , then try your detector on it.
Good Luck
Bob.
I've had conversations privately with limited number of F75 users in the last 2 months, some seem to agree that F/T may have sopped up this detector to far , some thought a passable loss of depth was the payoff for a quieter machine , almost every new user will need mentoring, F/T pushing the limits of the possible they may have crossed the zone of what can be done with this technology.
As for depth, best reports are about 8" on coins so far in mild ground .
Try a test don't just bury a coin, hammer a metal rod at 45Degrees into your soil , then push the coin down to a known depth, refill the probe hole tight , then try your detector on it.
Good Luck
Bob.
Advantages the F75 has over the MXT:
1.Uses just 4 AA Batteries with a runtime of over 40 hours.
2. Different signal processing modes. That gives you contol of how much preamp gain is used.
3. Standard 11" DD coil. Much better target separation and better in bad ground than the MXT with standard coil.
4. Notch settings available.
5. Backlight display
6. Extreme fast recovery speed.
7. Less weight
8. Better ID at depth
9. More tone ID choices
I'm sure i forgot some, but that was enough for me to keep the F75 over any Whites detector. That chatter on the F75 most are talking about is just wrong settings in 90% of all cases.
I own one of the first F75's and it works great. Visit www.fisherf75.com for some tips how to set it up.
Andy,NM
1.Uses just 4 AA Batteries with a runtime of over 40 hours.
2. Different signal processing modes. That gives you contol of how much preamp gain is used.
3. Standard 11" DD coil. Much better target separation and better in bad ground than the MXT with standard coil.
4. Notch settings available.
5. Backlight display
6. Extreme fast recovery speed.
7. Less weight
8. Better ID at depth
9. More tone ID choices
I'm sure i forgot some, but that was enough for me to keep the F75 over any Whites detector. That chatter on the F75 most are talking about is just wrong settings in 90% of all cases.
I own one of the first F75's and it works great. Visit www.fisherf75.com for some tips how to set it up.
Andy,NM
just because a replacement machine doesnt chatter like a returned/bad one, doesnt mean they "Reduced the gain " on it to fix it. There are lots of things that could be wrong instead of that. Case in point: my origonal 75 was noisey as heck, and would only get a 12" quarter in Je mode, with a fairly high Sens setting. My replacement unit runs MUCH stabler and quieter, but will get the same coin in DE, with a modest sens setting. sound like they reduced the gain to you?? if anything my replacement machine is hotter. ( IE: more gain )
Poor shielding, improper GB settings (or the ability to Gb properly), defective coils etc etc etc.... All these things can adversely affect performance, even at fairly low sens settings.
Poor shielding, improper GB settings (or the ability to Gb properly), defective coils etc etc etc.... All these things can adversely affect performance, even at fairly low sens settings.
If the warranty isnt transferrable I'd NEVER buy a used machine. Your only asking for trouble. Seems to me if a guy had a good one he wouldnt be selling it in the first place. I'd save my penny's and buy NEW. that way your protected. too many bad 75's floating around out there. Now, in a few months that may change, but I sure wouldnt buy used right now, unless you can get FT to agree in advance they will fix it if it has a problem!!
we hunted a site in ohio where the average depth of most of the coins was 10-11 inches. The only ones there that were able to get them consistently were the ones using Explorers and me, using my 75. in decent soil, the 75 wont even break a sweat on a 8" penny or dime.
Its a deep sumbeaych!! Streak!
Its a deep sumbeaych!! Streak!
Well all I know is that I dug a Barber quarter at a measured 13 inches in crappy iron/red clay ground in upstate NY. It sounded off very well and probably could have heard it another 4-6 inches. Granted I was running JE with a sens at 80 but it was quiet so that is what I did. i also dug 9 silver dimes at depths of over 9 inches in even crappier ground up there with the same settings. They were not as pronounced but repeatable and you could tell it was a good target, I was also running disc @ 65
I usually use a EX2 but I am liking the F-75 more and more especially where there is trash and iron
I got my F-75 the end of June. Don't know what batch it came out of but so far so good
I usually use a EX2 but I am liking the F-75 more and more especially where there is trash and iron
I got my F-75 the end of June. Don't know what batch it came out of but so far so good
To get that kind of depth. I can run DE, Sen. at 70 Dis. at 5 or 6. Just in the air I can hit a dime at 8 and qt at 12. The deepest coin I have gotten was a qt at 10"S. In the dirt it will hit my dime I got buried on edge at 8"s,
when I raise the coil it will still hit the dime at 12"s. Better in the dirt then in the air test. What we need is some real dirt and air tests with everyone using the same paramiters to get this problem figuared out. Remember the other machine that they did this to and it still worked great.: : Later Bud Jerry aka Tinfoil
when I raise the coil it will still hit the dime at 12"s. Better in the dirt then in the air test. What we need is some real dirt and air tests with everyone using the same paramiters to get this problem figuared out. Remember the other machine that they did this to and it still worked great.
: : Later Bud Jerry aka Tinfoilbigolhorns
New member
My machine is SUPER deep. Right out of the box.